Current Events > There is literally no difference between a woman and a transgender MtF.

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Vindris_SNH
09/10/18 3:54:18 PM
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Stop treating transgenders differently.
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dontIoseyourway
09/10/18 3:55:12 PM
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Yes there is.
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Sabram
09/10/18 3:55:36 PM
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Ovaries, uterus, etc
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Kushinadahime
09/10/18 3:55:39 PM
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dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.

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Kaiganeer
09/10/18 3:56:01 PM
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Kushinadahime posted...
dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.
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AsucaHayashi
09/10/18 3:56:41 PM
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and yet here you are using two different terms to describe them xd
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DarkProto05
09/10/18 3:57:31 PM
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No they should not be treated differently, you're right. But we have a right to refuse intimacy with them.

Before we get intimate we have a right to ask the question and we have the right to a truthful answer.
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Mist_Turnips
09/10/18 3:57:32 PM
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A man and a woman are very different, actually
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BigSLM1993
09/10/18 3:59:43 PM
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Minus the terms "cisgender" and "transgender" used to describe them >_>
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Flockaveli
09/10/18 4:00:35 PM
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Outward appearance maybe.
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Dark_SilverX
09/10/18 4:01:04 PM
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dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.

This

Get out TC.
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SuperMedz3
09/10/18 4:02:41 PM
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dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.

Sabram posted...
Ovaries, uterus, etc

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SuperMedz3
09/10/18 4:04:54 PM
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If you cut penis off a bull does it become a cow?
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halomonkey1_3_5
09/10/18 4:05:55 PM
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what's the point of trolling like this
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Acceleration
09/10/18 4:08:20 PM
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The first is a woman and the second is a man, in terms of sex. Thats a large difference.
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Mystery_Mission
09/10/18 4:09:36 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
Kushinadahime posted...
dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.
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HydraSlayer82
09/10/18 4:10:00 PM
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Pretty sure there are Y-chromosome specific diseases.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/10/18 4:11:16 PM
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nah

objectively this is untrue
even socially this is untrue

you can treat them the same but it's still untrue
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nemu
09/10/18 4:12:58 PM
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Anyone who says this for real is out of touch with reality. They should not be discriminated against, but they will never cease to be transgender.
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Rad_Chad
09/10/18 4:14:49 PM
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oh cool. let's see them pop out a baby or not show up with a Y chromosome on a DNA test.
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TheOlJollyRoger
09/10/18 4:15:39 PM
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One can have a baby
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Middle hope
09/10/18 4:16:11 PM
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Doubt
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lolife67
09/10/18 4:23:23 PM
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TheOlJollyRoger posted...
One can have a baby

Not all CIS women can have children. While TC is 100% wrong, your example isn't really the best.
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IloveJesus
09/10/18 4:31:55 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
Kushinadahime posted...
dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.

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lolife67
09/10/18 4:35:09 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
lolife67 posted...
TheOlJollyRoger posted...
One can have a baby

Not all CIS women can have children. While TC is 100% wrong, your example isn't really the best.


I guess a better way to say it is that cis women have the capacity to give birth regardless of if they can or not because they are built with the working parts. I dunno how far science is going to go but a trans woman doesn't have the space for the baby and even if they do the natural chemicals that regulate pregnancy and childbirth such as HCG is going to be needed in high amounts to work.

Much better!
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SuperMedz3
09/10/18 6:28:24 PM
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DarkTransient
09/10/18 6:30:07 PM
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Goats posted...
Wouldn't a MTF transgender be even better at sex considering she's lived through the experience from both sides primeape?


There's pretty much no way to know for sure if the experience an MTF has is the same as that a cis female has, given that it's impossible for the same person to be both a cis female and an MTF at different times throughout their life.

In fact, going by the theory of hormonal / brain structure differences, we can't even really be sure that their sexual experiences while living as a male is the same as that of a cis male, though it's far more likely to at least be very close.
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YourDrunkFather
09/10/18 6:31:39 PM
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Obvious trolling is obvious
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Gafemage
09/10/18 6:34:05 PM
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TCs compared not wanting to sell a gay couple a wedding cake to not wanting to sell a Nazi couple a swastika cake. He doesnt actually believe this.
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gunplagirl
09/10/18 6:41:34 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
lolife67 posted...
TheOlJollyRoger posted...
One can have a baby

Not all CIS women can have children. While TC is 100% wrong, your example isn't really the best.


I guess a better way to say it is that cis women have the capacity to give birth regardless of if they can or not because they are built with the working parts. I dunno how far science is going to go but a trans woman doesn't have the space for the baby and even if they do the natural chemicals that regulate pregnancy and childbirth such as HCG is going to be needed in high amounts to work.


Intersex trans women exist and several documented cases of successful pregnancies have been documented.
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BignutzisBack
09/10/18 6:42:18 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
Kushinadahime posted...
dontIoseyourway posted...
Yes there is.


Seriously, you'd have to be pretty dense to believe otherwise
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DarkTransient
09/10/18 6:43:13 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Highwind07 posted...
lolife67 posted...
TheOlJollyRoger posted...
One can have a baby

Not all CIS women can have children. While TC is 100% wrong, your example isn't really the best.


I guess a better way to say it is that cis women have the capacity to give birth regardless of if they can or not because they are built with the working parts. I dunno how far science is going to go but a trans woman doesn't have the space for the baby and even if they do the natural chemicals that regulate pregnancy and childbirth such as HCG is going to be needed in high amounts to work.


Intersex trans women exist and several documented cases of successful pregnancies have been documented.


If they're biologically intersex, they're not MTF. OP specifically said "between a woman and a transgender MTF".
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gunplagirl
09/10/18 6:52:16 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Goats posted...
Wouldn't a MTF transgender be even better at sex considering she's lived through the experience from both sides primeape?


There's pretty much no way to know for sure if the experience an MTF has is the same as that a cis female has, given that it's impossible for the same person to be both a cis female and an MTF at different times throughout their life.

In fact, going by the theory of hormonal / brain structure differences, we can't even really be sure that their sexual experiences while living as a male is the same as that of a cis male, though it's far more likely to at least be very close.

No, pre transition trans women's experiences are not comparable to that of cis men. Dysphoria by itself is enough to negate that entire argument.
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gunplagirl
09/10/18 6:53:39 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Highwind07 posted...
lolife67 posted...
TheOlJollyRoger posted...
One can have a baby

Not all CIS women can have children. While TC is 100% wrong, your example isn't really the best.


I guess a better way to say it is that cis women have the capacity to give birth regardless of if they can or not because they are built with the working parts. I dunno how far science is going to go but a trans woman doesn't have the space for the baby and even if they do the natural chemicals that regulate pregnancy and childbirth such as HCG is going to be needed in high amounts to work.


Intersex trans women exist and several documented cases of successful pregnancies have been documented.


If they're biologically intersex, they're not MTF. OP specifically said "between a woman and a transgender MTF".

MtF is an antiquated term, trans women is the more up to date term.

You're pretty bad at this, you depend on outdated terminology and an ancient understanding of biology.
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DragonGirlYuki
09/10/18 6:53:53 PM
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*popcorn*
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RoboLaserGandhi
09/10/18 6:56:14 PM
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Flockaveli posted...
Outward appearance maybe.

And usually that's not the case either.
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NibeIungsnarf
09/10/18 6:59:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure if you go to the doctor for any kind of physical exam or whatever, there's a big difference.
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gunplagirl
09/10/18 7:02:39 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I'm pretty sure if you go to the doctor for any kind of physical exam or whatever, there's a big difference.

The gynecologist visits are exactly the same literally
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silentwing26x
09/10/18 7:03:48 PM
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#shitCEsays
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_Krave_
09/10/18 7:15:57 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
ancient understanding of biology

Otherwise known as the true understanding of biology.
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Mist_Turnips
09/10/18 7:29:47 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Flockaveli posted...
Outward appearance maybe.

And that's never the case either.

Fixed
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gunplagirl
09/10/18 7:31:04 PM
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_Krave_ posted...
gunplagirl posted...
ancient understanding of biology

Otherwise known as the true understanding of biology.

No, it really isn't. You don't know more than the leading experts in the field and by ignoring what they say about trans people puts you the same level as antivaxxers because your hatred of trans people does result in trans people dying.
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Coffeebeanz
09/10/18 7:33:29 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
I'm pretty sure if you go to the doctor for any kind of physical exam or whatever, there's a big difference.

The gynecologist visits are exactly the same literally


As a doctor, this is patently false.
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RoboLaserGandhi
09/10/18 7:34:46 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Flockaveli posted...
Outward appearance maybe.

And that's never the case either.

Fixed

I don't know, I've actually been fooled a handful of times by MtFs who apparently underwent hormone therapy very early on.
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silentwing26x
09/10/18 7:36:51 PM
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@gunplagirl

Serious question - why does it matter to you so much whether or not women and transwomen are the same? Why do they have to be the same?
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dontIoseyourway
09/10/18 7:39:07 PM
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@gunplagirl posted...
_Krave_ posted...
gunplagirl posted...
ancient understanding of biology

Otherwise known as the true understanding of biology.

No, it really isn't. You don't know more than the leading experts in the field and by ignoring what they say about trans people puts you the same level as antivaxxers because your hatred of trans people does result in trans people dying.

How does this result in trans people dying.
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MeowMix101
09/10/18 7:46:33 PM
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dontIoseyourway posted...
@gunplagirl posted...
_Krave_ posted...
gunplagirl posted...
ancient understanding of biology

Otherwise known as the true understanding of biology.

No, it really isn't. You don't know more than the leading experts in the field and by ignoring what they say about trans people puts you the same level as antivaxxers because your hatred of trans people does result in trans people dying.

How does this result in trans people dying.

I think it is cause they have had a higher suicide rate than other groups which is most likely a psychological nervous breakdown cause they thought they would find happiness in changing physical appearance than finding inner happiness(akin to spiritual happiness does not have to be religious more of finding yourself spiritually)
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