Current Events > Do you think Batman and Batman Returns are good movies?

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ThunderTrain
09/12/18 6:42:24 PM
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Some people think they're terrible and other people think that Michael Keaton is the best Batman. I'm kinda in the middle about it. I find the movies entertaining but I don't think they're anything special but important for current superhero movies.
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Burgess
09/12/18 6:42:57 PM
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Batman yes, Batman Returns eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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RiderofHogs
09/12/18 6:47:08 PM
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Keaton is the best blend of Bruce and Batman.

Those movies were great though. Really captured the Dark Deco style of Batman.
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Allanon23
09/12/18 6:47:42 PM
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Yep. They were pretty damn good.
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Zikten
09/12/18 6:48:36 PM
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Yea. I liked them though I would have preferred a more comic style penguin instead of him acting just like the joker. The guy that played the joker gave the penquin actor advice when neither actor actually understood the source material for the penquin
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Southernfatman
09/12/18 6:50:18 PM
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Batman is still the best Batman movie to me. Michael Keaton was great and Jack Nicholson was awesome.

I miss when The Joker was a killer clown with his gadgets and a goofiness (while still staying scary and dangerous) instead of dark edgelord Joker we get in almost every other adaptation.

Haven't seen Returns in forever so I can't say.
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RiderofHogs
09/12/18 6:51:28 PM
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Southernfatman posted...


I miss when The Joker was a killer clown with his gadgets and a goofiness (while still staying scary and dangerous) instead of dark edgelord Joker we get in almost every other adaptation.

Watch Gotham if you are not already.
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ledbowman
09/12/18 6:51:50 PM
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Returns is good.
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Zikten
09/12/18 6:52:45 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Batman is still the best Batman movie to me. Michael Keaton was great and Jack Nicholson was awesome.

I miss when The Joker was a killer clown with his gadgets and a goofiness (while still staying scary and dangerous) instead of dark edgelord Joker we get in almost every other adaptation.

Haven't seen Returns in forever so I can't say.

Have you seen the animated Dark Knight Returns? That joker is incredible
There is also a good joker in another animation called The Red Hood
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Southernfatman
09/12/18 7:01:37 PM
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RiderofHogs posted...
Watch Gotham if you are not already.


I appreciate the suggestion, but from what I've heard about the show I'll probably hate it. I'm glad that they're apparently doing Joker right though. Maybe someday I'll check it out.

Zikten posted...

Have you seen the animated Dark Knight Returns? That joker is incredible
There is also a good joker in another animation called The Red Hood


I've seen both, but don't remember much of Red Hood. Got to rewatch it. I remember John DiMaggio as The Joker, who was a little different, but I liked it. TDKR was fantastic. I love it.

I just hate how certain folk just try too hard with the Joker. They seem to take Heath Ledger's Joker and try to make him harder and edgier a lot. Cutting off his own face, banging hookers, looking like a cross between a crappy rapper and a juggalo...ugh just stop.
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RiderofHogs
09/12/18 7:05:20 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I appreciate the suggestion, but from what I've heard about the show I'll probably hate it.

Maybe not. It has a nice Burton vibe to it. There are a few points where it sucks, mostly the Fish Moody parts.
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thanosibe
09/12/18 7:06:11 PM
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Batman yes.

Returns no. Way to many mischaracterizations.
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monkmith
09/12/18 7:09:53 PM
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not enough bat nipple.
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tommybel89
09/12/18 7:13:46 PM
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Batman yes.

Batman Returns... is the best bad movie of all time. It's so loony that it's a masterpiece.
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ledbowman
09/13/18 6:28:44 PM
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Aside from the art direction and score, there is nothing (nothing!) happening in Batman 89. There is no story. Cardboard cutouts for characters. I love Batman and want to love this movie but it's just dead on the screen.

Returns has genuine pathos. Stakes! A plot! Chemistry between its romantic leads. Even better atmosphere and cinematography. It's not close.
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nativengine
09/13/18 6:30:56 PM
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Burgess posted...
Batman yes, Batman Returns eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


This is how I feel.
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Kitt
09/13/18 6:31:59 PM
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Meh. I'm not a fan of them.
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Zack_Attackv1
09/13/18 6:32:07 PM
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Duh.

They introduced a darker atmosphere and proved that that style of Batman could indeed work.
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YukihoHagiwara
09/13/18 6:32:20 PM
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Burgess posted...
Batman yes, Batman Returns eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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nevershine
09/13/18 6:32:32 PM
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Both are solid films
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Zack_Attackv1
09/13/18 6:33:46 PM
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Somedays you just can't get rid of a bomb.

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MrNintendo1213
09/13/18 6:33:51 PM
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You guys crazy, Returns is way better than Batman.

The og Batman movie was fairly boring. And I love the idea of Jack Nicholson as the Joker, but it wasn't up to my expectations.
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Behaviorism
09/13/18 6:44:29 PM
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I hate the advertising and corporate world. Batman Returns was "too dark" to sell to kids, so we got the garbage batman forever afterwards.
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tommybel89
09/13/18 8:18:38 PM
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^People always say that and yet I had so many toys and clothing merchandise from that movie. I was 3 when I got Returns on tape for Christmas. There was no vetting of the material. That movie is very sexy in hindsight lol.
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Buzz Killjoy
09/13/18 8:20:46 PM
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When I was 9 years old, the first Batman movie was one of the coolest things ever and that's good enough for me. I don't expect kids who didn't grow up with those two movies to like them as much as we did. The campiness really started to dominate in Returns though.

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tommybel89
09/13/18 8:22:07 PM
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Batman 89 was totally a studio movie. That has been well acknowledged.

Batman Returns was MAX Tim Burton injected into a Batman movie. Or at least a huge amount of Burton. I like Returns more fondly but it's also the movie I remember seeing first out of the 2 Burton movies.
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Jaghave
09/13/18 8:28:27 PM
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Batman great
Batman return well..... we have worse batman film
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SuperMedz3
09/13/18 8:34:13 PM
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Eh. They are ok. Everything about the Dark Knight Trilogy is better.
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bulletproofvita
09/13/18 8:41:46 PM
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89 Batman is a classic
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thanosibe
09/13/18 9:02:49 PM
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tommybel89 posted...
^People always say that and yet I had so many toys and clothing merchandise from that movie. I was 3 when I got Returns on tape for Christmas. There was no vetting of the material. That movie is very sexy in hindsight lol.
Holy shit you made me just feel so damn old.
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Skye Reynolds
09/13/18 9:05:27 PM
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Yes.

It's a shame Burton couldn't have done the third film.
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Southernfatman
09/13/18 9:07:15 PM
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RiderofHogs posted...
Maybe not. It has a nice Burton vibe to it. There are a few points where it sucks, mostly the Fish Moody parts.


I'll have to check it out one day. Eh, It's not fair to judge a whole series without watching it. I'm all for comic book movies/shows to be a little...comicy.
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Skye Reynolds
09/13/18 9:10:13 PM
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I wonder how Robin Williams would've played the Riddler. Would he have been creepy, subdued, or over the top?
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Southernfatman
09/13/18 9:12:17 PM
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It could work cause Robin can do a serious mentally deranged character, but I can't imagine how Burton would do the Riddler or Two Face.

On another note I still can't get over the how the guy who did Forever and B&R is the same guy who did Falling Down.
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thanosibe
09/13/18 9:13:00 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Yes.

It's a shame Burton couldn't have done the third film.
Couldnt agree more.
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bulletproofvita
09/13/18 9:14:32 PM
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Allanon23 posted...
Yep. They were pretty damn good.

For you
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Skye Reynolds
09/13/18 9:16:03 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
It could work cause Robin can do a serious mentally deranged character, but I can't imagine how Burton would do the Riddler or Two Face.

On another note I still can't get over the how the guy who did Forever and B&R is the same guy who did Falling Down.


I know. That was such a good movie. My favorite Michael Douglas role.
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Kelystic
09/13/18 9:16:36 PM
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SimpleMan
09/13/18 9:20:15 PM
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They aren't the worst Batman movies, but they aren't the best either. Overall I'd say yes, they are good movies.
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Skye Reynolds
09/13/18 9:39:25 PM
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Questionmarktarius
09/13/18 10:00:34 PM
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Lego > 66 > 89 > the rest > 49
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Skye Reynolds
09/13/18 10:27:43 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Lego > 66 > 89 > the rest > 49


I will agree that 49 is the worst. I'd rather watch Batman & Robin the movie than Batman & Robin the film serial. The only good part of that one is that Batman has a rival named Nolan.
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Questionmarktarius
09/13/18 10:33:24 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
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Skye Reynolds
09/13/18 10:44:22 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Best Catwoman

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gatorsPENSbucs
09/16/18 12:09:42 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Lego > 66 > 89 > the rest > 49

Lego for real is up there, I'm a huge fan.

Burton's Batman's are easily my favorite.
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