Current Events > Coast Guard removes member from hurricane duty for using Pepe white power symbol

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45535715

The US Coast Guard has removed a team member from duty after he was accused of making a "white power" sign on air.

The unidentified employee was seen glancing at the camera during an MSNBC interview on Friday night before briefly making the hand gesture.

He was at a desk in the background as the cable channel spoke to Coast Guard Commanding Officer Capt John Reed in Charleston, South Carolina.

The agency responded swiftly to the ensuing social media backlash.

Disaster in Carolinas as storm deaths rise

The incident occurred as MSNBC covered the emergency response to deadly tropical storm Florence, which is drenching the Carolinas.

"Whatever that symbol means, it doesn't reflect the Coast Guard and our core values," Coast Guard Lt JB Zorn told NBC News.

"It won't be tolerated."

@E32005 posted...

Why would you deliberately make that sign sitting in the background of the TV interview. Sounds like typical passive aggressive trumpeter behavior

@Bio1590 posted...

"Hey, let's co opt an old hand sign and tell everyone that it's a white power symbol. Then let's all do it in public in questionable situations and when people fall for our gag and call us racists we'll say "we're just pretending to be racists to prove we're not" "

@FrisbeeDude posted...

Imagine being well aware of the controversy, but still dumb enough to intentionally do it anyway.

@The Great Muta 22

I'd fire him for being a dumbass troll

@eston

Why is he trying to be so sneaky about an ok sign though

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Explain what this guy in these videos is doing with his hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiaWcPJDiCo" data-time="

Time line for the OK symbol

First: just a normal OK symbol. Innocent.
Second: used by Pepe in comics. Innocent.
Third: Pepe used as meme. Innocent.
4th: Pepe taken over as racist meme symbol by deplorable nazi /pol/ chan incel twitter users
5th George Lindell uses symbol in Oct 2016 (above video)
6th: Pol users when in front of camera use symbol to show support

7th (a year later): Pol users start counter rumor that OK symbol is itself racist to attempt to embarrass anyone who is anti-/pol/

So. Is the Pepe OK symbol racist?

As with much, it depends on context.
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Notti posted...

Whatever that symbol means, it doesn't reflect the Coast Guard and our core values,"

Saying "OK" doesn't reflect the coast guards values you guys

That's actually justified. I wouldn't feel I could count on them to give their best effort to save a minority in danger.

The ok hand symbol is racist now?
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Mystery_Mission posted...

The ok hand symbol is racist now?

As I explained at the end of my OP if you read it: When used by /pol/ chan racists yes. It mimicing their symbol, Pepe.

Haven't you seen tons of twitter Trump self-identified "deplorables" using Pepe as their avatar?
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@Notti

keep it in the general
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Mystery_Mission posted...

The ok hand symbol is racist now?

The OK hand symbol is typically made almost subliminally behind the ear now?
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Mystery_Mission posted...

The ok hand symbol is racist now?

they did it to the Swastika, too. racist and perverts got social interactions all fucked up. can't say this, can't do that... all because perverts and bigots want to take something and twist it into something dark.

it's a shame how people want to dismiss this trend as if we haven't seen this type of thing happen to other symbols. some demographics don't change.
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Notti posted...

"Hey, let's co opt an old hand sign and tell everyone that it's a white power symbol. Then let's all do it in public in questionable situations and when people fall for our gag and call us racists we'll say "we're just pretending to be racists to prove we're not" "

Basically.
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Lets be so fearful that well turn any gesture or meme into a white supremacist symbol! (Sad!)
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EvoTech posted...

Lets be so fearful that well turn any gesture or meme into a white supremacist symbol! (Sad!)

What's the guy in this video doing with his hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

(october 2016, it beats that 4chan pic easily in the time line, Rimmer)

Rimmer_Dall posted...

^ Funny enough, it's guys who spreads a pic like this, who actually got fooled.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Mystery_Mission posted...

The ok hand symbol is racist now?

they did it to the Swastika, too. racist and perverts got social interactions all fucked up. can't say this, can't do that... all because perverts and bigots want to take something and twist it into something dark.

it's a shame how people want to dismiss this trend as if we haven't seen this type of thing happen to other symbols. some demographics don't change.

Yeah. Plus modern white nationalists have a tendency to hide behind innocuous symbols to cause confusion. It's similar to how terrorists will set up in hospitals/schools to shield themselves.
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Notti posted...

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Courage is the magic that turns memes into reality
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Remember when 4chan made a literal false flag?
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VectorChaos posted...

Notti posted...

lol
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VectorChaos posted...

Notti posted...

Ok I don't really care about this topic but this post fucking killed me after reading the OP
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So Pepe went from being a pretty run of the mill meme to being associated with hackers on steroids, to conspiracy theorists, to anti-government people pushing revolution, to Russian infiltrators and now to racists. Seems pretty bogey man-ish at this point.
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the whole hand thing is stupid. I don't believe in that hijacking bullshit. like if white supremacists started using fist bumping as their thing, does that mean suddenly you might appear racist if you ever fist bump someone? sounds stupid and this is why I avoid social media more and more by the day
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Notti posted...

Yeah. Plus modern white nationalists have a tendency to hide behind innocuous symbols to cause confusion. It's similar to how terrorists will set up in hospitals/schools to shield themselves.

"It's okay to be white" comes to mind
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Seems pretty obvious from his body language that he thinks he's being inconspicuous

Seems kind of weird for an ok signal
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"Hey, let's co opt an old hand sign and tell everyone that it's a white power symbol. Then let's all do it in public in questionable situations and when people fall for our gag and call us racists we'll say "we're just pretending to be racists to prove we're not"

on. the. nose.
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First: just a normal OK symbol. Innocent.
Second: used by Pepe in comics. Innocent.
Third: Pepe used as meme. Innocent.
4th: Pepe taken over as racist meme symbol by deplorable nazi /pol/ chan incel twitter users
5th George Lindell uses symbol in Oct 2016 (above video)
6th: Pol users when in front of camera use symbol to show support
7th (a year later): Pol users start counter rumor that the Normal OK symbol is itself racist to attempt to embarrass anyone who is anti-/pol/

Lol vector. Sorry if a simple time line is too complicated.

All it's meant to disprove is "4 chan is prankin u bro!!!11" (before people try it.. and they still tried)

Which the timeline proves simply as untrue =p

ThyCorndog posted...

the whole hand thing is stupid. I don't believe in that hijacking bullshit. like if white supremacists started using fist bumping as their thing, does that mean suddenly you might appear racist if you ever fist bump someone? sounds stupid and this is why I avoid social media more and more by the day

Well, /pol/ deplorables are stupid. Look at this guy's hands (he's doing the gesture) and listen to his yelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

What can I say, it's their stupid thing, and this coast guard guy got caught doing it.
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ThyCorndog posted...

the whole hand thing is stupid. I don't believe in that hijacking bullshit. like if white supremacists started using fist bumping as their thing, does that mean suddenly you might appear racist if you ever fist bump someone? sounds stupid and this is why I avoid social media more and more by the day

I was told by a friend of mine that there's a handshake where you leave your pointer finger extended to let others know that you're a white supremacist. His source was a supremacist who was trying to indoctrinate him since he's a young white guy.
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I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm not in favor of letting /pol/ decide what means what, and the fact that you have media outlets and social media users (who otherwise don't know anything about 4chan and whatnot) eat it up just seems dumb to me. fuck /pol/ and fuck the idea that they get to decide what means what. until I see an army of white supremacists all using it in unison like at something like the charlottesville march or whatever, I don't really give a shit. it's getting tiring to see /pol/ of all places exert any kind of influence outside of their stupid subchan

I guess this is semi-unrelated because I don't know about the guy in the video. he probably meant it in the /pol/ way. I'm talking about in general
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After watching the video, the guy clearly does it on purpose to signal something. Whether that is white power, or that he is telling his mom that he's okay, it was no accident.

Based on the glare before throwing up his dukes, Imma say it was for a nefarious purpose.
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ThyCorndog posted...

I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm not in favor of letting /pol/ decide what means what, and the fact that you have media outlets and social media users (who otherwise don't know anything about 4chan and whatnot) eat it up just seems dumb to me. fuck /pol/ and fuck the idea that they get to decide what means what. until I see an army of white supremacists all using it in unison like at something like the charlottesville march or whatever, I don't really give a shit. it's getting tiring to see /pol/ of all places exert any kind of influence outside of their stupid subchan

I guess this is semi-unrelated because I don't know about the guy in the video. he probably meant it in the /pol/ way. I'm talking about in general

Context.

No one is saying whenever anyone anywhere does the OK symbol that means they're a white nationalist.

That's like saying Buddhists who hang a swastika on the wall are actually Nazis.

Context.

https://theconversation.com/how-nazis-twisted-the-swastika-into-a-symbol-of-hate-83020
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When dumbasses take a 4chan prank seriously
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Coastguard fooled by 4Chan

lmfao

@SageHarpuia and @X-Pac_Heat

1) explain what the guy in this video is doing with his hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

2) And why is he doing it.

3) And also answer if the guy is a gigantic bigoted deplorable, in your opinion.
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You can tell just by looking at this guy that he's a dumbass

Not sure how you think I discounted people using it unironically in my post
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Notti posted...

@SageHarpuia and @X-Pac_Heat

1) explain what the guy in this video is doing with his hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

2) And why is he doing it.

3) And also answer if the guy is a gigantic bigoted deplorable, in your opinion.

So because some dumbass gets tricked by 4chan and uses a hand gesture incorrectly, it changes it when someone uses it correctly?

Or do you honestly think the vast majority who do that in a completely different context are racist?

Cause if so you got goofed by 4chan buddy

Womp womp
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I miss when Pepe was just a sort-of stoner meme.
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clicked topic expecting the OK hand

of course
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Mystery_Mission posted...

The ok hand symbol is racist now?

they did it to the Swastika, too. racist and perverts got social interactions all fucked up. can't say this, can't do that... all because perverts and bigots want to take something and twist it into something dark.

it's a shame how people want to dismiss this trend as if we haven't seen this type of thing happen to other symbols. some demographics don't change.

dont defend swastikas or the ignorant bigots here will foam at the mouth and call you a nazi. in the mind of a bigot, a symbol that predates the nazis is somehow owned exclusively by them. and according to gamefaqs admins and mods, some religions are ok to discriminate against.
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Notti posted...

@SageHarpuia and @X-Pac_Heat

1) explain what the guy in this video is doing with his hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

2) And why is he doing it.

3) And also answer if the guy is a gigantic bigoted deplorable, in your opinion.

SageHarpuia posted...

You can tell just by looking at this guy that he's a dumbass

Not sure how you think I discounted people using it unironically in my post

Because many do discount that as a legit possibility.

X-Pac_Heat posted...

So because some dumbass

We will agree he's a dumbass at least.

gets tricked by 4chan and uses a hand gesture incorrectly,

He didn't get "tricked".

Check the dates.

The trick was started on Feb 2017.

The video was Oct 2016.

It didn't become a "trick" until Feb 2017.

it changes it when someone uses it correctly?

Coast Guard guy was definitely trying to sneak it on air (while his superior was talking about hurricane preparation, perhaps a time to be serious and professional)

I wonder why he was trying to be sneaky about it?

Or do you honestly think the vast majority who do that in a completely different context are racist? Cause if so you got goofed by 4chan buddy

Isn't my whole post about context?

Ok? Ok.



Famous sieg heiling nazi Richard Spencer agrees.
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SageHarpuia posted...

When dumbasses take a 4chan prank seriously

This. Is white milk still racist?
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@s0nicfan posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

When dumbasses take a 4chan prank seriously

This. Is white milk still racist?

1) explain what the guy in this video is doing with his hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-zUlXhE1A" data-time="

2) And why is he doing it.

3) And also answer if the guy is a gigantic bigoted deplorable, in your opinion.
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1. Looks like a modified seig heil. Why would you hyper focus on his hands when he's straight up doing a palm up nazi salute?
2. He's doing it to be antisemitic, obviously
3. He's a piece of shit, obviously.

Now you get to explain how every use of the okay symbol must be secret racism when the guy in your video was doing an entire forearm salute while also shouting "jew S A", as if the context of all his other actions is irrelevant to the interpretation of the hand signal.

And also why we should take it seriously when for like a week 4chan had legit convinced people that white milk was the newest secret white supremacist symbol.
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lmao, dumb sjws. since when was a frog a white power symbol lmao. may as well associate the rainbow flag with nazis...
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untrustful posted...

"Hey, let's co opt an old hand sign and tell everyone that it's a white power symbol. Then let's all do it in public in questionable situations and when people fall for our gag and call us racists we'll say "we're just pretending to be racists to prove we're not"

on. the. nose.

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The only people getting fooled by 4chan are 4channers themselves.

I can't count the number of times posters on here have thought 4chan started some subterfuge when in reality they are simply claiming so after the fact to either trick other 4channers or push a different narrative.

I remember when a bunch of alt right people on here thought 4chan had inserted the pee tape into the dossier somehow.
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Except it is not a white power symbol.
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