Current Events > Beat-em-ups just seems so boring >_>

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Like you're literally just punching people for an hour straight before you beat the game. I tried Final Fight and Streets of Rage and Turtles in Time and I usually get really bored by the 2nd or 3rd stage >_>

The only 2 beat-em-ups that I actually enjoyed throughout was Scott Pilgrim and River City Ransom >_>
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Viewtiful Joe, though.
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I feel similarly about turn based RPGs.
So boring, never got into them.
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they are boring, very few of them have aged well at all and even those are only fun as a sort of filler game to play with friends while you're having a beer and waiting to do something else
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Look up a game called Dungeon Fighters Online. I personally would play that game still if the community was thriving. It's everything you would want in a beat em up game.
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Great experiences to play through them with friends just having fun and a few beers, but yeah the gameplay would probably get repetitive quick if you were just sitting down on your own.

Beat 'em ups're some'a the sickest games ever
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SoR2 is a significant upgrade to the first game because it has a much broader moveset, more diverse characters and better enemies. also dat music.

Veggeta X posted...

Look up a game called Dungeon Fighters Online. I personally would play that game still if the community was thriving. It's everything you would want in a beat em up game.

looks interesting but i dont like F2P games because the gameplay almost always centers around getting you to spend money. i'd rather just pay a flat rate up front instead of the game constantly begging me to buy cooldowns or revives or w/e
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

SoR2 is a significant upgrade to the first game because it has a much broader moveset, more diverse characters and better enemies. also dat music.

better sprites too, I thought the first game was so ugly
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Utter nonsense.

There are a lot of good beat'em ups.

Play Dragon's Crown for starters.
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old beat em ups suck, they're pretty much a holdover from the arcade days. gameplay is more or less designed around you tanking damage so you'll lose lives and have to pump in quarters to keep going.

notice how most of the old ones in the SNES era and before have pretty much no ways of dodging, blocking, etc. they're basically that era's equivalent of mobile games begging you to buy premium currency to keep playing
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Play Dragon's Crown for starters.

seconded. DC is amazing. each of the six characters feels unique and the RPG mechanics are pretty cool. super cool art style too.
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Imagine how amazing itd be if Scott Pilgrim got a current gen port or remaster
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I shouldn't be surprised that Current Events has awful taste.
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Streets of Rage Remake was the pinnacle for me, and before that SoR2.

I got into River City Ransom: Underground for a minute this summer but it was way too short and repetitive
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

Play Dragon's Crown for starters.

seconded. DC is amazing. each of the six characters feels unique and the RPG mechanics are pretty cool. super cool art style too.

Lol, just play the superior Capcom D&D beat 'em ups from the '90s. Same idea, better IP, and characters not drawn like a sex addict artist that is locked in a chastity belt.
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I liked Dynasty Warriors.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

Play Dragon's Crown for starters.

seconded. DC is amazing. each of the six characters feels unique and the RPG mechanics are pretty cool. super cool art style too.

Apparently there is a Dragon's Crown Pro: Battle Hardened Edition for the PS4 I literally just found out about... Might need to check it out.
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Are you playing with friends, TC?

Beat-em-ups are a hundred times better if youre playing multiplayer.
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TheCurseX2 posted...

Lol, just play the superior Capcom D&D beat 'em ups from the '90s. Same idea, better IP, and characters not drawn like a sex addict artist that is locked in a chastity belt.

the RPG elements in those games are a lot more minor from what I've seen of dragons crown
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There was one on the N64 that I really loved, wish I could remember its name. You could pick up stuff like machines and baseball bats and it was full 3D IIRC.
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ArchiePeck posted...

Great experiences to play through them with friends just having fun and a few beers, but yeah the gameplay would probably get repetitive quick if you were just sitting down on your own.

This, especially if you have more than a few beers.

Hexenherz posted...

There was one on the N64 that I really loved, wish I could remember its name. You could pick up stuff like machines and baseball bats and it was full 3D IIRC.

Fighting Force. It was also on PS1 and I'm pretty sure it had a sequel.

LookANinja posted...

I liked Dynasty Warriors.

I only played Hyrule Warriors. It was fun for like 10 hours, but then it got REALLY boring really quickly. idk how people beat every adventure map and such >_> I couldn't slog through more than 5 tiles in the first one.
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I can't imagine not loving Turtles in Time.

Giant_Aspirin posted...

looks interesting but i dont like F2P games because the gameplay almost always centers around getting you to spend money.

Actually yes now that you said that, that's actually what's wrong with the game. The combat and RPG elements are fun, though.
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SaithSayer posted...

I can't imagine not loving Turtles in Time.

I usually get bored by the pirate ship level >_> It's just the same thing over and over and over again.
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Vertania posted...

Hexenherz posted...

There was one on the N64 that I really loved, wish I could remember its name. You could pick up stuff like machines and baseball bats and it was full 3D IIRC.

Fighting Force. It was also on PS1 and I'm pretty sure it had a sequel.

Yes, thanks!
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NeonOctopus posted...

SaithSayer posted...

I can't imagine not loving Turtles in Time.

I usually get bored by the pirate ship level >_> It's just the same thing over and over and over again.

Play the Hyperstone Heist.

Its shorter and the pirate ship is a ghost ship.
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A lot of them have the design focus be forcing you to take hits so you put in more quarters to keep playing over making the combat varied.

The DMC/Bayonetta style games are the modern version of beat em ups, still focused on punching dudes but with more varied combat as the main focus.
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DMC1, 3 and 4 are fun as fuck. I guess they could be beat-em-ups in a way, but they feel different too >_>
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NeonOctopus posted...

I only played Hyrule Warriors. It was fun for like 10 hours, but then it got REALLY boring really quickly. idk how people beat every adventure map and such >_> I couldn't slog through more than 5 tiles in the first one.

The genre lost its appeal after the PS2 era imo. Dynasty Warriors 3 (and 2 to a lesser extent) was amazing at the time because it was pretty much the only game that had a huge open battlefield and dozens of characters to level up.

By the time DW6 came out, the open maps weren't anything special compared to open worlds in games like GTA.

NeonOctopus posted...

Like you're literally just punching people for an hour straight before you beat the game.

Yeah, that would be the appeal.

Balrog0 posted...

TheCurseX2 posted...

Lol, just play the superior Capcom D&D beat 'em ups from the '90s. Same idea, better IP, and characters not drawn like a sex addict artist that is locked in a chastity belt.

the RPG elements in those games are a lot more minor from what I've seen of dragons crown

You're right, they're not intrusive tacked on "Diablo style loot" gimmicks for a genre that doesn't need any of that nonsense.

Dragon's Crown is a SHIT beat 'em up.
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Beat-em-ups are just fighting games with stages.

And, at least for me, some of the bosses they come up with are interesting. Like Damnd, Rolento, Philippe, Martha Splatterhead, just to give some examples.
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SaithSayer posted...

I can't imagine not loving Turtles in Time.

Shell Shock!

I should throw the Turtles in Time soundtrack onto my MP3 player.

Dragon's Crown is my personal favorite beat em up of all time, wtf.

Anyway, I just bought the Capcom Beat Them Up collection. I love all those old games, but yeah they're better with friends.
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The only beat em up I've enjoyed was Castle Crashers.

TheCurseX2 posted...

You're right, they're not intrusive tacked on "Diablo style loot" gimmicks for a genre that doesn't need any of that nonsense.

the genre badly needs that kind of nonsense to stop itself from being repetitive

if you play these old beat em ups the main things they did to keep themselves interesting was change locales so the different levels had very different set pieces

thats pretty lame now that we aren't impressed by sprite scaling and rotation though
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*mandatory early to mid 90s elevator level*

WOW look at that parallax scrolling!!!
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I think that they would make an excellent alternative mode within a fighting games.

Instead of doing a one on one match, you progress through an environment busting up a bunch of scrubs. Could be fun.

Capcoms D&D games were real rad.
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Balrog0 posted...

TheCurseX2 posted...

You're right, they're not intrusive tacked on "Diablo style loot" gimmicks for a genre that doesn't need any of that nonsense.

the genre badly needs that kind of nonsense to stop itself from being repetitive

if you play these old beat em ups the main things they did to keep themselves interesting was change locales so the different levels had very different set pieces

thats pretty lame now that we aren't impressed by sprite scaling and rotation though

LOL

You want lack of repetition but then ask for the most repetitive garbage you could possibly tack on and worse yet, you encourage all sorts of goofy shit like having enemies in a beat 'em up have "levels" you need to grind better gear for like it's some sort of fucking scuffed MMO to actually kill in a comfortable amount of time.

No kiddos, beat 'em ups don't need forcefed RPG mechanics to make them engaging. All you need is great gameplay, great and memorable levels/enemies, great soundtrack and if you want to insert replay value then add in tons of unlockables.

There's a reason why Dragon's Crown came, went, and died while Streets of Rage 2 still reigns supreme. Less is more.
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Streets of Rage 2 and old beat em ups in general survive because of nostalgia, not quality. go ahead and share those games with some kids and see which they like more
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In the arcade era I grew up with Double Dragon, Rampage, Streets of Rage, Contra, etc. everything was pretty much repetition. That's why 4 to 5 subsequent release of Rampage didn't sell. They're outdated. The peak beat em ups can reach has been far surpassed by gaming technology. You'll still get some like Castle Crashers and Blade Kitten, but still remain the same as the old ones, repetitive, but just with a bit better graphics.
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I think the last beat 'em up I remember playing was Charlie Murder. That was actually a pretty good game too. Castle Crashers is the best though for sure.
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they're meant for great couch co-op, who plays those games solo lol

Ive quite literally fallen asleep playing an rpg during a long story conversation....
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Balrog0 posted...

Streets of Rage 2 and old beat em ups in general survive because of nostalgia, not quality. go ahead and share those games with some kids and see which they like more

Oh yeah, we need kids to tell us what is quality and what isn't. Get that shit outta here.
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