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TheKentster
09/28/18 4:12:31 PM
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What will the arguments be then? We allowed the investigation (that should have been done a month ago if you weren't trying to play gotcha politics).
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Awesome
09/28/18 4:13:17 PM
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kavanaugh haters will say the fbi is covering it up.
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09/28/18 4:13:45 PM
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Hexenherz
09/28/18 4:13:54 PM
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Why would they say that if... they've already obviously found many things?
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ThePrinceFish
09/28/18 4:13:57 PM
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"they didn't investigate for long enough, let them keep looking"
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TheKentster
09/28/18 4:15:04 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Why would they say that if... they've already obviously found many things?


If that was the case, we wouldn't need an investigation...
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Hexenherz
09/28/18 4:15:25 PM
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TheKentster posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Why would they say that if... they've already obviously found many things?


If that was the case, we wouldn't need an investigation...


I am fairly certain you don't know what the definition of "investigation" is, let alone how they operate.
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Sariana21
09/28/18 4:15:47 PM
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Will the FBI seriously try to say that a Devil's Triangle is a drinking game?

They may not find anything useful about a party in 1982, but it is to be hoped that they uncover all the lies and cover-ups.
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Balrog0
09/28/18 4:16:17 PM
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no arguments necessary, collins and murkowski will have ample polling showing their caucus why it would be a bad idea for them to vote yes
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VectorChaos
09/28/18 4:17:53 PM
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"All part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"
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iPhone_7
09/28/18 4:18:00 PM
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Is there even an actual investigation going on?

Also the excuse liberals will use is either:
1. They need to keep investigating
2. Its a cover up
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Zikten
09/28/18 4:18:32 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
"they didn't investigate for long enough, let them keep looking"

they will say this for sure
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Hexenherz
09/28/18 4:18:54 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Is there even an actual investigation going on?

Also the excuse liberals will use is either:
1. They need to keep investigating
2. Its a cover up

Nah they're just playing beer pong in the FBI's break room that's why Mueller never gives any conferences or anything because he doesn't want to have to speak while inebriated that would be bad for his career.
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WhyGiveUp
09/28/18 4:20:13 PM
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Dragging this out for another week will be downright awful for the GOP in midterms. Collins and Murkowski are also clearly looking for a good reason to say no.
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 4:25:03 PM
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There will be all kinds of false allegations against him in another week's time. And the Democrats will demand investigation.
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WhyGiveUp
09/28/18 4:31:49 PM
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Found this interesting. Don't think the FBI will let him off with no answers

bDY3HMw
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Nomadic View
09/28/18 4:32:27 PM
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If there is an(other) FBI investigation itll be months before its concluded. Well after the midterms. Which is the whole point of asking for an FBI investigation.
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SK8T3R215
09/28/18 4:32:59 PM
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WhyGiveUp posted...
Found this interesting. Don't think the FBI will let him off with no answers

bDY3HMw


literally Vox lmfao
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TheKentster
09/28/18 4:33:45 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
TheKentster posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Why would they say that if... they've already obviously found many things?


If that was the case, we wouldn't need an investigation...


I am fairly certain you don't know what the definition of "investigation" is, let alone how they operate.


Please enlighten me, oh wise one. You seem to think they already have everything, but officially calling it an investigation allows them to use it?
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Balrog0
09/28/18 4:34:07 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
WhyGiveUp posted...
Found this interesting. Don't think the FBI will let him off with no answers

bDY3HMw


literally Vox lmfao


you when you agree with something: just look at the facts man, it doesn't matter where the story is coming from

you when you don't agree with something: that source is bullshit
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Hexenherz
09/28/18 4:36:12 PM
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TheKentster posted...
Hexenherz posted...
TheKentster posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Why would they say that if... they've already obviously found many things?


If that was the case, we wouldn't need an investigation...


I am fairly certain you don't know what the definition of "investigation" is, let alone how they operate.


Please enlighten me, oh wise one. You seem to think they already have everything, but officially calling it an investigation allows them to use it?


How do I "seem to think they already have everything" when I literally never once said that. Please re-read my first post.
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kayoticdreamz
09/28/18 4:36:39 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
There will be all kinds of false allegations against him in another week's time. And the Democrats will demand investigation.

This

It's nothing but a stall tactic

At this point if can't see the blatant lies of democrats, I'm not sure what to do for you
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Bio1590
09/28/18 4:36:44 PM
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Like Vox might be laughable but anyone that watched the hearings yesterday knows that diagram is accurate
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ultimate reaver
09/28/18 4:37:12 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
WhyGiveUp posted...
Found this interesting. Don't think the FBI will let him off with no answers

bDY3HMw


literally Vox lmfao


If you want an alternative source watch the hearing where he consistently disregards questions and tearfully vouches for his character or gets all righteous-anger-mode whenever they are asked
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SK8T3R215
09/28/18 4:38:23 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
you when you agree with something: just look at the facts man, it doesn't matter where the story is coming from

you when you don't agree with something: that source is bullshit


Actually it's because Vox is complete bullshit and a joke website. They could have those polls reversed and my response would be the same.
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Hexenherz
09/28/18 4:39:45 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
you when you agree with something: just look at the facts man, it doesn't matter where the story is coming from

you when you don't agree with something: that source is bullshit


Actually it's because Vox is complete bullshit and a joke website. They could have those polls reversed and my response would be the same.


Those aren't even "polls". You literally don't even know what you're arguing about. You didn't even review the information before you started attacking it.
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Balrog0
09/28/18 4:39:46 PM
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yeah, sure bud
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 4:40:04 PM
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If they find nothing on the existing accusations, more new ones will magically appear. Guarantee it.
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uwnim
09/28/18 4:40:08 PM
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That image is possibly true. There were a lot of complaints that people were being way harder on him than on her with the questioning and that some of the questions weren't fair. That image does line up with what would be expected if the right wing narrative about these things is true.
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TheKentster
09/28/18 4:42:52 PM
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I mean, for one thing that image is acting like Ford had more questions asked, which of course is not true. Kav was up there for hours and hours. That immediately calls the accuracy of it into question. Then there is simply the bias of saying he didn't answer something when really he answered it the same way any politician answers questions. It's usually not just a yes or no answer.
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 4:45:49 PM
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If anyone wants to test the veracity of Vox's claim for themselves rather than simply trusting their word, you can watch the committee's questioning of Ford again starting about here when the questions begin

48m 28sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag43bSYfiDw" data-time="


That's part 1. That channel has the rest of it uploaded.
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Balrog0
09/28/18 4:46:01 PM
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TheKentster posted...
I mean, for one thing that image is acting like Ford had more questions asked, which of course is not true. Kav was up there for hours and hours.


so was she... if you look at the 9 hour video of yesterday's committee meeting, her part goes for about 5 hours and his only goes for 4

of course there are breaks for both...
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V-E-G-Y-
09/28/18 4:50:05 PM
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southcoast09
09/28/18 4:52:18 PM
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If there was anything to find, it would have been found by now.
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davyheinz
09/28/18 5:00:10 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
TheKentster posted...
I mean, for one thing that image is acting like Ford had more questions asked, which of course is not true. Kav was up there for hours and hours. That immediately calls the accuracy of it into question. Then there is simply the bias of saying he didn't answer something when really he answered it the same way any politician answers questions. It's usually not just a yes or no answer.

Youre very clearly full of shit

This. Im pretty certain she testified longer and they had Mitchell question her so a lot of questions were asked and answered for Fords testimony compared to the grandstanding and bullshit that happened during Kavanaughs testimony.
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 5:42:43 PM
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WhyGiveUp posted...
Found this interesting. Don't think the FBI will let him off with no answers

bDY3HMw


MITCHELL: Do you recall an expectation that Brett Kavanaugh would be there?

FORD: I dont recall whether or not I expected that.

MITCHELL: When you said it was clear that they had been drinking prior, do you mean prior to the time you had gotten there or prior to the time they had arrived?

FORD: Prior to the time that they arrived. I dont recall who arrived first, though, whether it was me or them.

MITCHELL: So then would it be fair to say at least P.J., Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge, Leland Ingham at the time and yourself were present, and possibly others?

FORD: And one one other boy. So there were four there were four boys. I just dont know the name of the other boy, so.

MITCHELL: You said that you do not remember how you got home, is that correct?

FORD: I do not remember

MITCHELL: Would it be fair to say that somebody drove you somewhere, either to the party or home from the party?

FORD: Correct.

MITCHELL: How were you able to narrow down the timeframe?

FORD: I cant give the exact date.

MITCHELL: Did you show a full or partial set of those marriage therapy records to The Washington Post?

FORD: I dont remember. I remember summarizing for her what they said. So Im not Im not quite sure if I actually gave her the record.

MITCHELL: OK. So its possible that the reporter did not see these notes.

FORD: I dont know if shes I cant recall whether she saw them directly or if I just told her what they said.

MITCHELL: Dr. Ford, The Washington Post reported in their September 16th article that you did show them therapist notes. Is that incorrect?

FORD: I dont remember physically showing her a note.

MITCHELL: OK.

FORD: Perhaps my counsel did. I dont I dont remember physically showing her my copy of the note.

MITCHELL: OK.

FORD: But I I just dont remember. Im sorry.

MITCHELL: OK, thank you. You also attended individual therapy. Did you show any of those notes to the reporter from The Washington Post?

FORD: Again, I dont remember if I showed her like, something that I summarized, or if I just spoke about it or if she saw it in my counsels office. I cant I I dont know for sure, but I certainly spoke with her about the 2013 record with the individual therapist.

MITCHELL: OK. So would it be fair to say that you retained counsel during that time period of July 30th to August 7th?

FORD: I cant remember the exact date.

MITCHELL: Were you audio- and video-recorded when you were taking that test?

FORD: OK, so I remember being hooked up to a machine, like, be being placed onto my body, and being asked a lot of questions, and crying a lot. Thats my primary memory of that test. I dont know I know he took laborious detail into explaining what he was going to be doing, but I was just focused on kind of what I was going to say, and my fear about that. I wasnt listening to every detail about the what whether it was audio- or video-recorded.
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Tyranthraxus
09/28/18 5:45:09 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
WhyGiveUp posted...
Found this interesting. Don't think the FBI will let him off with no answers

bDY3HMw


literally Vox lmfao


you when you agree with something: just look at the facts man, it doesn't matter where the story is coming from

you when you don't agree with something: that source is bullshit


The source isn't Vox, the source is Washington Post. Vox just stole the article because that's all they can do.
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09/28/18 5:45:19 PM
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FBl posted...
We will release all pertinent information upon conclusion of our investigation.

I have information that may lead to the arrest of Hillary Cli
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 5:47:37 PM
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MITCHELL: Did you note any cameras in the room?

FORD: Well, he had a computer set up, so I guess I assumed that he was somehow taping and recording me.

MITCHELL: OK. So you assumed you were being video- and audio-recorded.

FORD: Correct.

MITCHELL: But you dont know for sure.

FORD: I dont know for sure.

MITCHELL: Dr. Ford, do you expect the price of that polygraph to be passed on to you?

FORD: Im not sure yet. I havent taken a look at all of the costs involved in this. Weve relocated now twice, so I havent kept track of all of that paperwork, but Im sure I have a lot of work to do to catch up on all of that later.

MITCHELL: OK. In your testimony this morning, you stated that Senator Feinstein sent you a letter on August 31st of this year, is that right?

FORD: August 31st let me see.

GRASSLEY: Stop the clock (ph).

FORD: I sent her a letter on July 30th. And I dont have the date. Id have to pull up my e-mail to find out the date of her e-mail to me saying that it was right before the hearings that she was going to maintain the confidentiality of the of the letter.

MITCHELL: Say that again, it was right before the hearings, then what?

FORD: Thats my memory, but I could look it up for you. If you would like the exact date, I could pull it up on my e-mail.

MITCHELL: OK. Between your polygraph on August the 7th and your receipt of the letter from Senator Feinstein, did you or anyone on your behalf speak to any member of Congress or congressional staff about these allegations?

FORD: I personally did not.

MITCHELL: So my question was, did you or anybody on your behalf.

FORD: I dont what do you mean, did someone speak for me?

MITCHELL: Somebody that worked is working with you or helping you. Did somebody at your behest on your behalf speak to somebody in Congress or staff?

FORD: Im not sure.

MITCHELL: OK.

FORD: Im not sure how those exchanges went, but I didnt speak to anyone.

MITCHELL: OK. Is it possible that somebody did?

FORD: I I I think so, it would be possible. I Im guessing it would be possible (ph), but I dont know.

MITCHELL: OK. Besides you mentioned some GoFundMe accounts besides those, are there any other efforts outside of your own personal finances to pay for your legal fees or any of the costs occurred incurred?

FORD: Its my understanding that some of my team is working on a pro bono basis, but I dont know the exact details.

MITCHELL: OK. You mentioned about some possible information, such as when Mark Judge worked at the supermarket. I want to ask you about someone else. You mentioned that there was a classmate who was really sort of the connection between you and Brett Kavanaugh. Who was this person?

FORD: I I think that that case with Mr. Whelan, who was looking at my LinkedIn page and then trying to blame the person, I just dont feel like its right for us to be talking about that.

MITCHELL: Im not trying to blame anybody, I just want to know who the common friend that you and

FORD: The person that Mr. Whelan was trying to say looked like Mr. Kavanaugh.

MITCHELL: Was this person the only common link between you and Mr. Judge Kavanaugh?

FORD: Hes the only one that I would be able to name right now that I would like to not name, but you know who I mean.
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Bio1590
09/28/18 5:47:38 PM
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Oh boy Funbazooka's back to bolding random parts of posts again
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Bio1590
09/28/18 5:48:45 PM
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Also what are the odds he's totally misrepresenting what's being considered an "answer" here lmfao
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 5:49:26 PM
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And I'd like to point out these exchanges.

MITCHELL: You said that you do not remember how you got home, is that correct?
FORD: I do not remember

MITCHELL: Would it be fair to say that somebody drove you somewhere, either to the party or home from the party?
FORD: Correct.
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TheKentster
09/28/18 5:50:14 PM
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Saying you don't know is apparently a valid answer for Ford but not for Kav. Interesting.
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 5:50:15 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Oh boy Funbazooka's back to bolding random parts of posts again


Bolding every part where Ford doesn't or can't answer a question.
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Anteaterking
09/28/18 5:50:58 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
MITCHELL: Did you note any cameras in the room?

FORD: Well, he had a computer set up, so I guess I assumed that he was somehow taping and recording me.

MITCHELL: OK. So you assumed you were being video- and audio-recorded.

FORD: Correct.

MITCHELL: But you dont know for sure.

FORD: I dont know for sure.

MITCHELL: Dr. Ford, do you expect the price of that polygraph to be passed on to you?

FORD: Im not sure yet. I havent taken a look at all of the costs involved in this. Weve relocated now twice, so I havent kept track of all of that paperwork, but Im sure I have a lot of work to do to catch up on all of that later.

MITCHELL: OK. In your testimony this morning, you stated that Senator Feinstein sent you a letter on August 31st of this year, is that right?

FORD: August 31st let me see.

GRASSLEY: Stop the clock (ph).

FORD: I sent her a letter on July 30th. And I dont have the date. Id have to pull up my e-mail to find out the date of her e-mail to me saying that it was right before the hearings that she was going to maintain the confidentiality of the of the letter.

MITCHELL: Say that again, it was right before the hearings, then what?

FORD: Thats my memory, but I could look it up for you. If you would like the exact date, I could pull it up on my e-mail.

MITCHELL: OK. Between your polygraph on August the 7th and your receipt of the letter from Senator Feinstein, did you or anyone on your behalf speak to any member of Congress or congressional staff about these allegations?

FORD: I personally did not.

MITCHELL: So my question was, did you or anybody on your behalf.

FORD: I dont what do you mean, did someone speak for me?

MITCHELL: Somebody that worked is working with you or helping you. Did somebody at your behest on your behalf speak to somebody in Congress or staff?

FORD: Im not sure.

MITCHELL: OK.

FORD: Im not sure how those exchanges went, but I didnt speak to anyone.

MITCHELL: OK. Is it possible that somebody did?

FORD: I I I think so, it would be possible. I Im guessing it would be possible (ph), but I dont know.

MITCHELL: OK. Besides you mentioned some GoFundMe accounts besides those, are there any other efforts outside of your own personal finances to pay for your legal fees or any of the costs occurred incurred?

FORD: Its my understanding that some of my team is working on a pro bono basis, but I dont know the exact details.

MITCHELL: OK. You mentioned about some possible information, such as when Mark Judge worked at the supermarket. I want to ask you about someone else. You mentioned that there was a classmate who was really sort of the connection between you and Brett Kavanaugh. Who was this person?

FORD: I I think that that case with Mr. Whelan, who was looking at my LinkedIn page and then trying to blame the person, I just dont feel like its right for us to be talking about that.

MITCHELL: Im not trying to blame anybody, I just want to know who the common friend that you and

FORD: The person that Mr. Whelan was trying to say looked like Mr. Kavanaugh.

MITCHELL: Was this person the only common link between you and Mr. Judge Kavanaugh?

FORD: Hes the only one that I would be able to name right now that I would like to not name, but you know who I mean.


If you actually look at the Vox article, they code "I don't know" or "I don't recall" as answering a question (for both of them).
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Bio1590
09/28/18 5:51:17 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Oh boy Funbazooka's back to bolding random parts of posts again


Bolding every part where Ford doesn't or can't answer a question.

Bio1590 posted...
Also what are the odds he's totally misrepresenting what's being considered an "answer" here lmfao

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Funbazooka
09/28/18 5:51:54 PM
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All taken from the transcripts on the Washington Post

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=ford+testimony+transcript&d=3265002246449&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=1Otj9owaGelyxRkYQhLQvaACI3oE544P
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Funbazooka
09/28/18 5:52:31 PM
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Point is, Vox is full of shit.
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