Poll of the Day > Ohio Teacher asks STUDENTS if it's okay for SIBLINGS to have SEX!!!

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35 y/o Weirdo, Sarah Gillam, an Ohio 10th Grade Teacher at Hilliard Bradley High School RESIGNED from her job after she made her class take a 36 Question MORALITY test that included INCEST and ANIMAL ABUSE!!

They took the free online quiz at "Moral Foundations Test" that asked them the morality of each sliding scale between "Ok" and "Not Ok"

One question reads "Using both a condom and the pill, a brother and sister decide that they want to sleep with each other - just once, to see what it would be like" (the obvious answer being NO)

Another says Sarah's dog has 4 puppies. She can find a home for 2 of them, so she kills the other 2 with a stone ot the head"

Another says "While on live on air tv show, a man kills a baby rabbit with a knife"

The incest questions were most disturbing for the teens as it makes them test their morality if 2 people can swim in the same gene pool was appropriate

It breaks down the percentage of "care", "loyalty", "fairness", "purity" and "liberty" and determines their POLITICAL alignment based on their morality that its closest to.

Todd Sandberg's 15 y/o son blew the whistle on these questions and posted a page for residents on where they took this quiz because he wanted people to know what their kids were doing in school..

Parents were outraged and she was suspended and put on admin leave before she resigned

The school apologized stating the quiz should never have taken place as they too share the outrage who said it was an isolated incident.

Do you think what she did was insane?

Sarah - Weirdo

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The questions -

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mrduckbear posted...

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Hahaha oh wow
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mrduckbear posted...

One question reads "Using both a condom and the pill, a brother and sister decide that they want to sleep with each other - just once, to see what it would be like" (the obvious answer being NO)

It's less a morality issue than it is a social taboo, particularly since the only moral wrong would be in the union resulting in children who would be at a drastically increased risk of birth defects (well, unless there was a guardianship issue involved -- if one sibling was the caretaker for the other, that could constitute grooming).

mrduckbear posted...

Do you think what she did was insane?

It's stupid, but not something she deserved to lose her job over. Humorously enough, she looks inbred.

Blighboy posted...

mrduckbear posted...

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Hahaha oh wow

wtf >_<
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Blighboy posted...

mrduckbear posted...

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Hahaha oh wow

I don't understand how this one doesn't get any flak.
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I don't think it deserved outrage. People jut want to complain and jump on the complain train bandwagon... That's what it seems like, at least. I don't really see anything wrong with the test, tbh. It's just a bunch of questions. I feel that 10th graders can handle it... probably... High schoolers can definitely be immature, but some are mature enough to handle life and shit...
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I don't see a problem with the questions. Just that its really none of the teachers business to know these things about the students.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

I don't see a problem with the questions. Just that its really none of the teachers business to know these things about the students.

Was she getting the answers, though. It was an online quiz. Maybe she would get them to take it and only see the end result that told them their percentages and political alignment...
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LinkPizza posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

I don't see a problem with the questions. Just that its really none of the teachers business to know these things about the students.

Was she getting the answers, though. It was an online quiz. Maybe she would get them to take it and only see the end result that told them their percentages and political alignment...

I don't think the teacher needs to know any of that. Especially political alignment, we always talk about keeping good out of school but other than learning how the government works and past history politics should be left out. I got a teacher fired over that shit before, she'd sit up there and try teaching her political beliefs to the class and making out like if you were on the other side you were a idiot
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This just in: In a quiz asking students how they feel about controversial moral questions, one of the questions presented a controversial scenario!
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I don't see the problem with these questions.
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Honestly, I'm ok with the questions
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mooreandrew58 posted...

I don't think the teacher needs to know any of that. Especially political alignment, we always talk about keeping good out of school but other than learning how the government works and past history politics should be left out. I got a teacher fired over that shit before, she'd sit up there and try teaching her political beliefs to the class and making out like if you were on the other side you were a idiot

A record of that could certainly be damaging if students answered honestly instead of merely virtue-signaling because the correct response is rarely the politically correct or socially acceptable one.
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Zeus posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

I don't think the teacher needs to know any of that. Especially political alignment, we always talk about keeping good out of school but other than learning how the government works and past history politics should be left out. I got a teacher fired over that shit before, she'd sit up there and try teaching her political beliefs to the class and making out like if you were on the other side you were a idiot

A record of that could certainly be damaging if students answered honestly instead of merely virtue-signaling because the correct response is rarely the politically correct or socially acceptable one.

In my case with the politics the teacher didn't make us take tests on it just wastes valuable teaching time to preach her political ideals and bash the other side. My mom had to to come down on the school as hard as she could to get her removed yet another teacher of mine got fired right away over the fact he would talk about Christianity but was nice enough to always say "this my opinion and in no way am I trying to influence anyone to believing in it"
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These are real questions that need answers. If you're uncomfortable answering them, stay in elementary school where you belong
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Lokarin posted...

These are real questions that need answers. If you're uncomfortable answering them, stay in elementary school where you belong

My only gripe is the teacher knowing the answers. Only people who need them are the parents and maybe a psychiatrist.

Like for example my mom worked in a prison and they are technically not allowed to know what each inmate was found guilty of. Not that you couldn't find out anyways but she wouldn't because she noticed it was hard to treat everyone the same fair and equally when you knew they were in for something really bad.
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What did class did she teach that she felt that these questions were important? I could maybe see a psychology class (which wasnt available as a high school class at all for me), and maybe social studies as a stretch. But otherwise, Id be curious as to what baring this held on her class.
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I hope this looney has neither siblings, nor pets. 0_0
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Nah I don't think what she did was wrong although I agree with Zeus that she looks like her parents shared the same mom and dad. That's probably just me being mean, though.

The Popo posted...

What did class did she teach that she felt that these questions were important? I could maybe see a psychology class (which wasnt available as a high school class at all for me), and maybe social studies as a stretch. But otherwise, Id be curious as to what baring this held on her class.

I know my school had psychology. And I think they have been adding more classes to high schools recently. So it's possible...

Lil_Bit83 posted...

I hope this looney has neither siblings, nor pets. 0_0

I don't see why that would be a problem...
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nothing wrong with the questions
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Those are pretty tame questions. I've been asked far more darker questions in HS.
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The graphs are set of poorly, because "not okay" is not the same as "morally wrong", and the difference is important.

Thats a scary thought.
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She got to resign? She shoulda been fired!
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Like another poster already said, the only thing that would be wrong with this is if the teacher knew the answers. The parents were probably scared that their kids think incest and shit is okay and they didn't want to deal with it. Questions are fine, kids are fucking 10-ply these days.
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The Popo posted...

What did class did she teach that she felt that these questions were important? I could maybe see a psychology class (which wasnt available as a high school class at all for me), and maybe social studies as a stretch. But otherwise, Id be curious as to what baring this held on her class.

It seems more geared towards an philosophy class than a psych class?
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Yellow posted...

The graphs are set of poorly, because "not okay" is not the same as "morally wrong", and the difference is important.

The question is "are you okay with this?". Implicit in that is "does this conflict with your personal morals?", but it's more superficial than getting into more complex questions of moral right/wrong.
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Lol parents are pathetic.
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Why should she be fired over asking thought-provoking questions?
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Magus 10 posted...

Why should she be fired over asking thought-provoking questions?

Thought provoking? I'll have to look at all of them but the main ones mentioned require zero thought process to know how I'd answer.
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adjl posted...

Yellow posted...

The graphs are set of poorly, because "not okay" is not the same as "morally wrong", and the difference is important.

The question is "are you okay with this?". Implicit in that is "does this conflict with your personal morals?", but it's more superficial than getting into more complex questions of moral right/wrong.

Are personal beliefs and tastes inherently a matter of personal morality? There are countless things I believe shouldn't be done yet something like socks with sandals isn't really a moral issue.

Magus 10 posted...

Why should she be fired over asking thought-provoking questions?

The format isn't exactly thought-provoking. It's not like they had to give a written response justifying their opinion, they were just reacting on a slider scale.
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Zeus posted...

adjl posted...

Yellow posted...

The graphs are set of poorly, because "not okay" is not the same as "morally wrong", and the difference is important.

The question is "are you okay with this?". Implicit in that is "does this conflict with your personal morals?", but it's more superficial than getting into more complex questions of moral right/wrong.

Are personal beliefs and tastes inherently a matter of personal morality? There are countless things I believe shouldn't be done yet something like socks with sandals isn't really a moral issue.

Magus 10 posted...

Why should she be fired over asking thought-provoking questions?

The format isn't exactly thought-provoking. It's not like they had to give a written response justifying their opinion, they were just reacting on a slider scale.

Not to mention tests like these tend to ask you to answer quickly and not spend too much time thinking about it.
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adjl posted...

Yellow posted...

The graphs are set of poorly, because "not okay" is not the same as "morally wrong", and the difference is important.

The question is "are you okay with this?". Implicit in that is "does this conflict with your personal morals?", but it's more superficial than getting into more complex questions of moral right/wrong.

Well if a brother and a sister had sex, it wouldn't be necessarily morally wrong, but people would find it tacky and gross.

What else is "morally ok" but "not okay" is someone bashing their head into a wall.

People blur the lines already so I don't respect the way the quiz is set up, and probably won't respect the answers, that's all.

Its okay for siblings to have sex, especially if using contraceptives
Its okay to kill animals
Its okay to make a sex doll of somebody underage, whether it be your niece or your little sister, AS LONG AS youre using it as a way to prevent you from making inappropriate advances
Its okay to kill puppies that you cant care for and cant find homes for (though I feel like a gun would work better than a rock)

Oh I missed one

Its okay for women to have sex with as many men as they want

MICHALECOLE posted...

Its okay for siblings to have sex, especially if using contraceptives
Its okay to kill animals
Its okay to make a sex doll of somebody underage, whether it be your niece or your little sister, AS LONG AS youre using it as a way to prevent you from making inappropriate advances
Its okay to kill puppies that you cant care for and cant find homes for (though I feel like a gun would work better than a rock)

I'll never be cool with killing a pet short of taking them to the shelter and letting them deal with it. Because with that there is at least a minor chance someone else will take it. Its how I got one of my dogs and my cat. I didn't pick my dog out at all either they just asked me if I'd take it cause shelter was Max capacity so these jack asses just tossed the dog over the fence and left
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I don't see the problem here. The questions can be out there if you don't apply any critical thinking to them. But it can also be useful to examine why one finds something acceptable or not.

mrduckbear posted...

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Take this one for example. I'm going to assume this isn't some maniac that walked onto the set of the evening news and started killing animals in front of the announcers. Perhaps this is a guest demonstrating hunting and skinning techniques in preparation to cook the animal. Being on television it's most likely that there's a delay and anything graphic will be pixelated or black-boxed. Maybe the context changes how you feel about it.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Its okay for siblings to have sex, especially if using contraceptives
Its okay to kill animals
Its okay to make a sex doll of somebody underage, whether it be your niece or your little sister, AS LONG AS youre using it as a way to prevent you from making inappropriate advances
Its okay to kill puppies that you cant care for and cant find homes for (though I feel like a gun would work better than a rock)

I'll never be cool with killing a pet short of taking them to the shelter and letting them deal with it. Because with that there is at least a minor chance someone else will take it. Its how I got one of my dogs and my cat. I didn't pick my dog out at all either they just asked me if I'd take it cause shelter was Max capacity so these jack asses just tossed the dog over the fence and left

I wouldnt be cool with it either

But at the complete same time.. whats the difference? And if they live in the country and are farmers.. you kill animals every day. An animal is an animal.

Yeah, I fucking love animals and cats and dogs especially, but there is no difference.

MICHALECOLE posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Its okay for siblings to have sex, especially if using contraceptives
Its okay to kill animals
Its okay to make a sex doll of somebody underage, whether it be your niece or your little sister, AS LONG AS youre using it as a way to prevent you from making inappropriate advances
Its okay to kill puppies that you cant care for and cant find homes for (though I feel like a gun would work better than a rock)

I'll never be cool with killing a pet short of taking them to the shelter and letting them deal with it. Because with that there is at least a minor chance someone else will take it. Its how I got one of my dogs and my cat. I didn't pick my dog out at all either they just asked me if I'd take it cause shelter was Max capacity so these jack asses just tossed the dog over the fence and left

I wouldnt be cool with it either

But at the complete same time.. whats the difference? And if they live in the country and are farmers.. you kill animals every day. An animal is an animal.

Yeah, I fucking love animals and cats and dogs especially, but there is no difference.

I'm just talking pets. For food self defense or because they were being a major problem like tearing up your personal property (like strays or wild animals) yeah I'm fine with killing them

But I view pets I'm a similar light as adopting a kid. You've taken a oath more or less to provide for annd protect them.
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The questions are ok to ask and healthy to brainstorm about.

Using the answers to judge students or assign them to political groups is not ok.

C-Raine posted...

The questions are ok to ask and healthy to brainstorm about.

Using the answers to judge students or assign them to political groups is not ok.

I like this answer. Unfortunately though humans are a judgmental lot. You answer any of the questions the "wrong" way and people will judge
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MICHALECOLE posted...

Its okay to kill animals

It's talking about cruelly killing a pet, which has some pretty severe moral implications and it's one third of the Macdonald Triad. The rabbit one depends on context. If it was being killed to show how food was prepared and the body was used afterward, it's instructional. However, killing animals either way can have moral implications.

For pets, there's a guardianship issue where it's not merely a question of ownership but also stewardship. We have a whole slew of welfare laws built around that precept, as well as other laws to discourage inhumane suffering even when killing the animals.

MICHALECOLE posted...

AS LONG AS youre using it as a way to prevent you from making inappropriate advances

tbh, I'm not sure you should even attach a condition to that. It's a kinda fucked up thing to do, but it's not a real person. The only argument against it would be if they could somehow demonstrate that it made people more likely to act on those behaviors for real, but supposedly medical professionals believe the opposite may be true.
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Zeus posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Its okay to kill animals

It's talking about cruelly killing a pet, which has some pretty severe moral implications and it's one third of the Macdonald Triad. The rabbit one depends on context. If it was being killed to show how food was prepared and the body was used afterward, it's instructional. However, killing animals either way can have moral implications.

For pets, there's a guardianship issue where it's not merely a question of ownership but also stewardship. We have a whole slew of welfare laws built around that precept, as well as other laws to discourage inhumane suffering even when killing the animals.

MICHALECOLE posted...

AS LONG AS youre using it as a way to prevent you from making inappropriate advances

tbh, I'm not sure you should even attach a condition to that. It's a kinda fucked up thing to do, but it's not a real person. The only argument against it would be if they could somehow demonstrate that it made people more likely to act on those behaviors for real, but supposedly medical professionals believe the opposite may be true.

Yeah I have no option on the sex doll thing. If it proves to help people not take out their urges on real people I'll be ok with it. As the dragon in Skyrim says. Is it better bro be born good or overcome a evil nature through great effort.
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mrduckbear posted...

It breaks down the percentage of "care", "loyalty", "fairness", "purity" and "liberty" and determines their POLITICAL alignment based on their morality that its closest to.

"If you have no morals, you're probably a Trump supporter, good night!"
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I am ok with the questions, it is fine to get your students thinking and ready to defend their answer.

I don't know if linking it to a political ideology is a good thing. Hey all you young about to be able to vote people. Do you think that someone having a custom sex doll made to look like their niece is bad? If so you should vote for whatever party I want that to mean.
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Zeus posted...

It's less a morality issue

Confirmed, zues wants sex with his sister.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Zeus posted...

It's less a morality issue

Confirmed, zues wants sex with his sister.

who the fuck is zues
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I guess if you live in the backwoods of some trailer park that would be acceptable.

Zeus posted...

The Popo posted...

What did class did she teach that she felt that these questions were important? I could maybe see a psychology class (which wasnt available as a high school class at all for me), and maybe social studies as a stretch. But otherwise, Id be curious as to what baring this held on her class.

It seems more geared towards an philosophy class than a psych class?

I could possibly see these questions in a college sociology class, if they are asked theoretically, but not really in high school.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

sociology class

I was thinking it would be good for sociology. I took that class a couple years ago, but I feel this would've been something cool to do during that class...
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