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WastelandCowboy
10/06/18 4:53:41 PM
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https://www.npr.org/654409999

Updated at 4:37 p.m. ET

A sharply divided Senate reflecting a deeply divided nation voted almost entirely along party lines Saturday afternoon to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The vote was 50-48. Only one Democrat, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, joined Republicans in backing Kavanaugh. One Republican, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, voted "present" although she said she opposed the nomination. One GOP senator was absent during the vote because of his daughter's wedding thousands of miles from Washington, D.C.

In a tweet soon after the vote, President Trump celebrated the confirmation and said Kavanaugh will be officially sworn in soon.

The Supreme Court said in a statement that Kavanaugh will be sworn in by Chief Justice John Roberts and retired Justice Anthony Kennedy Saturday evening. Roberts will administer the constitutional oath and Kennedy will administer the judicial oath in private ceremony at the court. "Both oaths will be administered so that (Kavanaugh) can begin to participate in the work of the Court immediately," the statement said. A formal investiture ceremony will take place at a later date, the Supreme Court also said.

Senators sat at their desks during Saturday's vote, which was presided over by Vice President Mike Pence. In the debate preceding it, senators sounded as though they were describing two different men. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky, called Kavanaugh "among the very best our nation has to offer." Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called the 53-year-old Kavanaugh a victim of "an ugly left-wing smear campaign," and charged Democrats with character assassination.

Kavanaugh had been accused by three women of sexual misconduct while he was in high school and college more than 30 years ago charges he angrily denied.
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Far-Queue
10/06/18 4:55:03 PM
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When do they rename the US as "Gilead"?
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SkynyrdRocker
10/06/18 4:57:07 PM
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Well poop
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TIE543
10/06/18 4:58:05 PM
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Yay!
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TIE543
10/06/18 4:58:22 PM
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Better gun rights incoming :D
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 4:58:25 PM
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Finally! It's about damn time.
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XlaxJynx007
10/06/18 5:10:00 PM
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There were plenty of arguments to be made on Kavanaugh's positions on the 4th Amendment and many others but no, democrats had to made up some bullshit that accomplishes nothing but make them look like petty, emotional children
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WhiskeyDisk
10/06/18 5:11:16 PM
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Now we can finally move on the the next thing to be outraged about!
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/06/18 5:14:03 PM
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McConnell took the Senate floor after Schumer, praising Kavanaugh and condemning his Democratic colleagues for perceived obstructionism.


Lmao. McConnell, the guy who refused to even consider reviewing Supreme Court candidates for a year because he wanted his own party to be able to nominate a candidate for the seat, is accusing other people of obstructionism.
Fun fact: McConnell believes net neutrality rules violate the first amendment rights of internet providers.
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Impavid54
10/06/18 5:19:46 PM
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lmao
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shadowsword87
10/06/18 5:23:08 PM
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TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.
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argonautweakend
10/06/18 5:24:28 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Lmao. McConnell, the guy who refused to even consider reviewing Supreme Court candidates for a year because he wanted his own party to be able to nominate a candidate for the seat, is accusing other people of obstructionism.
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TIE543
10/06/18 5:24:44 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.

My state laws are perfectly fine, stuff I want done is going to have to be federal
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 5:25:44 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.


Historically, yes. But there are efforts being made to have federally-based reciprocity laws for concealed carry permits. People like Kavanaugh could help with that.
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TIE543
10/06/18 5:27:28 PM
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shipwreckers posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.


Historically, yes. But there are efforts being made to have federally-based reciprocity laws for concealed carry permits. People like Kavanaugh could help with that.

Reciprocity and suppressors off the NFA pls :D
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XlaxJynx007
10/06/18 5:39:22 PM
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TIE543 posted...
shipwreckers posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.


Historically, yes. But there are efforts being made to have federally-based reciprocity laws for concealed carry permits. People like Kavanaugh could help with that.

Reciprocity and suppressors off the NFA pls :D

Shit, I want the entire NFA gone plus reciprocity plus import bans gone
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The_tall_midget
10/06/18 6:47:00 PM
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I hope we get plenty of idiotic feminists and unhinged sjw's videos resulting from this.

Those cancers exist only to entertain me.
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Mead
10/06/18 6:51:39 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
I hope we get plenty of idiotic feminists and unhinged sjw's videos resulting from this.

Those cancers exist only to entertain me.


Every post you cant help but talk about these invisible sjws and feminists that you seem obsessed with

I wonder how much of your day is dedicated to them
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The_tall_midget
10/06/18 7:05:57 PM
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Mead posted...


Every post you cant help but talk about these invisible sjws and feminists that you seem obsessed with

I wonder how much of your day is dedicated to them


Invisible? Listen, Mead, I can understand you being sour that I was right about the FBI finding jack shit and that I am, once again, proven 100% correct, but even YOU have probably enough mental presence to notice all the mentally-unhinged feminists and sjw's that are infesting society like a terminal phase cancer.

Or are you far more dense than I actually believe?
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JixHedgehog
10/06/18 7:11:21 PM
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Welp, that's that. . . for now

who knows what the left is cooking up next

Not saying he didnt do it or that she made up the allegations, there just wasnt any solid evidence to support either side, so you have to let the man walk

... Guess we're going back to the Russian witchhunt for another 10 months :(
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Mead
10/06/18 7:19:09 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Mead posted...


Every post you cant help but talk about these invisible sjws and feminists that you seem obsessed with

I wonder how much of your day is dedicated to them


Invisible? Listen, Mead, I can understand you being sour that I was right about the FBI finding jack shit and that I am, once again, proven 100% correct, but even YOU have probably enough mental presence to notice all the mentally-unhinged feminists and sjw's that are infesting society like a terminal phase cancer.

Or are you far more dense than I actually believe?


I guess I could see a person believing what you claim if you kept yourself isolated in an online echo chamber and never actually went outside
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Zeus
10/06/18 7:25:37 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
A sharply divided Senate reflecting a deeply divided nation voted almost entirely along party lines Saturday afternoon to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.


tbh, it's hard to imagine that not that long ago SCOTUS nominations received almost unanimous votes.

WastelandCowboy posted...
One Republican, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, voted "present" although she said she opposed the nomination.


Always a classic. It makes the attack ads a little harder.

WhiskeyDisk posted...
Now we can finally move on the the next thing to be outraged about!


This, tbh. Ex-"controversy" to the next "controversy"

Mead posted...
Every post you cant help but talk about these invisible sjws and feminists that you seem obsessed with


Invisible? They're pretty hard to miss. Many of them have been protesting this week.
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Mead
10/06/18 7:26:24 PM
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Invisible? They're pretty hard to miss. Many of them have been protesting this week.


People tend to find the things they look for
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Zeus
10/06/18 7:29:31 PM
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Mead posted...
Invisible? They're pretty hard to miss. Many of them have been protesting this week.


People tend to find the things they look for


You don't need to look for them, unless you count "turning on the news" (and anything except purposefully burying your hand) as looking.

Granted, to some extent the media overreports on incidents like these to give a greater appearance of significance (either deliberately to advance an agenda or simply to make it more newsworthy) so it might not necessarily be as big a thing, although those groups are certainly very loud.
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EvilMegas
10/06/18 7:32:14 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
Now we can finally move on the the next thing to be outraged about!

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Monopoman
10/06/18 7:35:04 PM
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TIE543 posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.

My state laws are perfectly fine, stuff I want done is going to have to be federal

Yeah if you want to buy a fully operational tank you will need some federal laws passed.
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streamofthesky
10/06/18 7:39:04 PM
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TIE543 posted...
shipwreckers posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
TIE543 posted...
Better gun rights incoming :D


You would be better off looking at state laws rather than the supreme court for that sort of stuff.


Historically, yes. But there are efforts being made to have federally-based reciprocity laws for concealed carry permits. People like Kavanaugh could help with that.

Reciprocity and suppressors off the NFA pls :D

What is "reciprocity" in this context?
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 7:41:28 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
What is "reciprocity" in this context?


Reciprocity is the concept that a legal permit in one state can be legally recognized in a different state, even though the state-specific laws may vary a bit. So, if I get a concealed handgun carry permit in, say..., North Carolina, it's still legal for me to concealed carry the gun in South Carolina.
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 7:42:01 PM
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The_tall_midget
10/06/18 7:43:41 PM
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Mead posted...

I guess I could see a person believing what you claim if you kept yourself isolated in an online echo chamber and never actually went outside


I literally walked 4 miles today in addition to doing my usual hour of cardio.

Mead, doesn't it ever get tired of always being wrong?

Nevertheless, I must end my usual enjoyment of your sjw antics. Reddit is currently filled to the brim with pathetic lefties, sjw's, and feminists who are outraged and figuratively (some are probably literally) on suicide watch.

I cannot miss this opportunity to fuel the flames of their mental disabilities!
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OhhhJa
10/06/18 7:43:54 PM
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As much as I hate kavanaugh, I love seeing the dems petty political posturing blow up in their faces
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streamofthesky
10/06/18 7:53:01 PM
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shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
What is "reciprocity" in this context?


Reciprocity is the concept that a legal permit in one state can be legally recognized in a different state, even though the state-specific laws may vary a bit. So, if I get a concealed handgun carry permit in, say..., North Carolina, it's still legal for me to concealed carry the gun in South Carolina.

That's what I figured.

So mr. "small government conservative" wants the federal government to step in and override state law.
How...ideologically consistent.
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Yellow
10/06/18 7:55:19 PM
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Ew.
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 8:10:57 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
What is "reciprocity" in this context?


Reciprocity is the concept that a legal permit in one state can be legally recognized in a different state, even though the state-specific laws may vary a bit. So, if I get a concealed handgun carry permit in, say..., North Carolina, it's still legal for me to concealed carry the gun in South Carolina.

That's what I figured.

So mr. "small government conservative" wants the federal government to step in and override state law.
How...ideologically consistent.


Wow, way to miss the point of the conversation. They're trying to REDUCE the amount of regulations. Some states take gun laws to extreme (borderline unconstitutional) measures (e.g. California). By having federally-based reciprocity, you'd be REMOVING regulation, not increasing it.

May want to read up on this a bit more before making knocks at the guy. Then again, if people actually did their homework, most of his controversy wouldn't have happened in the first place.
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Yellow
10/06/18 8:12:48 PM
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They reduce corporate regulation for the most part.

Personally, I don't care about guns, but I reeeally don't want Mr. Burns having his way with me.
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Superlinkbro
10/06/18 8:13:16 PM
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I don't even like the guy and I accepted that he would get in a long time ago.
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XlaxJynx007
10/06/18 8:15:55 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
What is "reciprocity" in this context?


Reciprocity is the concept that a legal permit in one state can be legally recognized in a different state, even though the state-specific laws may vary a bit. So, if I get a concealed handgun carry permit in, say..., North Carolina, it's still legal for me to concealed carry the gun in South Carolina.

That's what I figured.

So mr. "small government conservative" wants the federal government to step in and override state law.
How...ideologically consistent.

It's actually to stop the states from violating the Constitution. The point of reciprocity it to make carry permits like drivers licenses, you get it in one state and it's valid in all states. Right now, it's convoluted as shit and some states and counties make it impossible to get one at all, which is unconstitutional. As for me, I'm of the opinion that requiring a citizen to pay for a permit to exercise a Constitutional right is complete and utter bullshit, but I'll take what I can get for now.
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streamofthesky
10/06/18 8:21:39 PM
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shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
What is "reciprocity" in this context?


Reciprocity is the concept that a legal permit in one state can be legally recognized in a different state, even though the state-specific laws may vary a bit. So, if I get a concealed handgun carry permit in, say..., North Carolina, it's still legal for me to concealed carry the gun in South Carolina.

That's what I figured.

So mr. "small government conservative" wants the federal government to step in and override state law.
How...ideologically consistent.


Wow, way to miss the point of the conversation. They're trying to REDUCE the amount of regulations. Some states take gun laws to extreme (borderline unconstitutional) measures (e.g. California). By having federally-based reciprocity, you'd be REMOVING regulation, not increasing it.

May want to read up on this a bit more before making knocks at the guy. Then again, if people actually did their homework, most of his controversy wouldn't have happened in the first place.

If CA's laws are unconstitutional, a citizen can argue the case in a court of law to have it overturned. I'm sure they have and continue to do so. If it's not unconstitutional...too bad.

Way to miss the point of the conversation, though. CA decides it wants to place restrictions on gun carrying, and the same people who whine about "big government" trampling all over "states' rights" want the federal government to force CA to adopt different laws. Laws that its own citizens don't want forced on them.
Sounds like tyranny.
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GanglyKhan
10/06/18 8:22:16 PM
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XlaxJynx007 posted...
As for me, I'm of the opinion that requiring a citizen to pay for a permit to exercise a Constitutional right is complete and utter bullshit, but I'll take what I can get for now.

It's also a bullshit Amendment considering it was written in a time where the musket was the world's most useful weapon. There was also a need for citizens to arm themselves in case of insurgency or further invasion from foreign countries. Taking all of this into consideration, the 2nd Amendment served as a means of self-protection in a very unsure and unstable new world, not for tens of thousands of people to abuse so that they can commit gun crimes.

This is also coming from someone who finds the annual deaths from firearms underwhelming in the big scheme of things. I don't care which way it goes, but I find much more logic in gun control than not.
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 8:32:57 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
shipwreckers posted...
streamofthesky posted...
What is "reciprocity" in this context?


Reciprocity is the concept that a legal permit in one state can be legally recognized in a different state, even though the state-specific laws may vary a bit. So, if I get a concealed handgun carry permit in, say..., North Carolina, it's still legal for me to concealed carry the gun in South Carolina.

That's what I figured.

So mr. "small government conservative" wants the federal government to step in and override state law.
How...ideologically consistent.


Wow, way to miss the point of the conversation. They're trying to REDUCE the amount of regulations. Some states take gun laws to extreme (borderline unconstitutional) measures (e.g. California). By having federally-based reciprocity, you'd be REMOVING regulation, not increasing it.

May want to read up on this a bit more before making knocks at the guy. Then again, if people actually did their homework, most of his controversy wouldn't have happened in the first place.

If CA's laws are unconstitutional, a citizen can argue the case in a court of law to have it overturned. I'm sure they have and continue to do so. If it's not unconstitutional...too bad.

Way to miss the point of the conversation, though. CA decides it wants to place restrictions on gun carrying, and the same people who whine about "big government" trampling all over "states' rights" want the federal government to force CA to adopt different laws. Laws that its own citizens don't want forced on them.
Sounds like tyranny.


Reciprocity is tyranny???

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XlaxJynx007 posted...
It's actually to stop the states from violating the Constitution. The point of reciprocity it to make carry permits like drivers licenses, you get it in one state and it's valid in all states. Right now, it's convoluted as shit and some states and counties make it impossible to get one at all, which is unconstitutional. As for me, I'm of the opinion that requiring a citizen to pay for a permit to exercise a Constitutional right is complete and utter bullshit, but I'll take what I can get for now.


Yeah, pretty much this.
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Revelation34
10/06/18 9:44:47 PM
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shipwreckers posted...

Wow, way to miss the point of the conversation.


Irony.
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vicedungwinsgam
10/06/18 10:13:22 PM
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errrrr buuuttttt
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XlaxJynx007
10/06/18 10:36:30 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
XlaxJynx007 posted...
As for me, I'm of the opinion that requiring a citizen to pay for a permit to exercise a Constitutional right is complete and utter bullshit, but I'll take what I can get for now.

It's also a bullshit Amendment considering it was written in a time where the musket was the world's most useful weapon. There was also a need for citizens to arm themselves in case of insurgency or further invasion from foreign countries. Taking all of this into consideration, the 2nd Amendment served as a means of self-protection in a very unsure and unstable new world, not for tens of thousands of people to abuse so that they can commit gun crimes.

This is also coming from someone who finds the annual deaths from firearms underwhelming in the big scheme of things. I don't care which way it goes, but I find much more logic in gun control than not.

Question: Does the 1st Amendment apply to the internet? Should we just throw away the 3rd Amendment because it's never used?

The 2nd Amendment is as adaptable as every other Amendment. It's as much for self protection as it is for combating tyranny. What if all guns were banned and turned in, then Trump decides to shred the Constitution and throwing people he doesn't like from helicopters Pinochet-style? The founding fathers recognized that a centralized government was a necessary evil and made sure that the American people had the ability to keep it in check (which we've done a shit job of)
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shipwreckers
10/06/18 11:02:55 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
shipwreckers posted...

Wow, way to miss the point of the conversation.


Irony.


You think reciprocity is tyranny too? If so, that's fine. Nobody can make you believe one way or the other. It's your right.
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Revelation34
10/07/18 6:04:26 AM
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shipwreckers posted...
You think reciprocity is tyranny too? If so, that's fine. Nobody can make you believe one way or the other. It's your right.


I don't give a shit. I was pointing out the irony of your post and completely missing his point.
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Shinebolt
10/07/18 10:05:01 AM
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So...as the world erupted into a blazing inferno and all of human civilization collapsed yet?

*Checks outside*

Nope...nothing. Guess we have to wait a couple more days?
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