Board 8 > A Dance With Dragons Mafia - Topic 12: The Mummer's Farce Is Almost Done

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ScareChan
10/07/18 8:55:25 AM
#51:


I'm mobile dude stuff off you knew what I meant
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htaeD
10/07/18 9:01:49 AM
#52:


ScareChan posted...
No, they would have been roleblocked

Trust me. I made sure


I suppose that makes sense, if the redirector has to target 2 players for its power
did you ask that before or after sbells flip?
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dowolf
10/07/18 9:02:39 AM
#53:


Scare posted...

But the big reason was if someone tried to redirect to me that night they would have been blocked themselves. So I had nothing to do with the miz stuff

Oh.

umm.

huh.
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htaeD
10/07/18 9:02:55 AM
#54:


masterplum posted...
I am confused what we are speculating about with this redirect


whether or not dowolf could be untargetable
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Neablis
10/07/18 9:04:57 AM
#55:


Might not be worth talking about until we get a consensus about a claim and we just go about the game.

I am for the mass claim though
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:09:21 AM
#56:


MZero flipping town might've taken my head out of the game. Too tired to be dealing with ****ty play like that.
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Neablis
10/07/18 9:20:16 AM
#57:


Blade thoughts on Dowolf specifically and then thoughts about Shad if you would humor me.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 10:07:08 AM
#58:


Meow1000 posted...
MZero flipping town might've taken my head out of the game. Too tired to be dealing with ****ty play like that.

Looking for reasons to coast? Maybe not put in effort and explain away why scum keeps leaving you alive?
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 10:07:54 AM
#59:


I am ok with lynching scare and Blade, preferably Blade first.
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dowolf
10/07/18 10:40:28 AM
#60:


i'm kinda waiting for Blade to answer Neablis, since I'm curious what his answer is.
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masterplum
10/07/18 11:00:17 AM
#61:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I am ok with lynching scare and Blade, preferably Blade first.


Why
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Neablis
10/07/18 11:05:43 AM
#62:


Dowolf has the correct approach in this manner

and I really do hate the reasoning player X should not be alive at this point and it makes him scum, people get endgamed all of the time who are good players who should not survive until the end of the game but does.

IGCD posting that also rustles my jimmies a bit because Bell dying helps him out a lot as bell was his primary attacker ( I believe). And now he comes in serious about lynching scare and blade its a bit strange at this point.
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Neablis
10/07/18 11:10:40 AM
#63:


I want to hedge and say I do not want to protect Blade before he answers me, but it always makes me feel strange whenever someone dies and people start taking the route, player should be dead it automatically makes him scum.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 11:25:40 AM
#64:


masterplum posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
I am ok with lynching scare and Blade, preferably Blade first.


Why

ScareChan posted...
The issue here is more blade meta

Scum red fears town blade. He doesn't let town blade live this long.

Scum can communicate at all times in our games, even when dead

Because I think this is very accurate, granted now that I look at who posted it, it could very well be an attempt at wifom from scare to prevent his lynch. He kept his mouth shut during all the redirect talk and could have saved us the Miz lynch but he let it happen.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 11:27:43 AM
#65:


Neablis posted...
Dowolf has the correct approach in this manner

and I really do hate the reasoning player X should not be alive at this point and it makes him scum, people get endgamed all of the time who are good players who should not survive until the end of the game but does.

IGCD posting that also rustles my jimmies a bit because Bell dying helps him out a lot as bell was his primary attacker ( I believe). And now he comes in serious about lynching scare and blade its a bit strange at this point.

Umm I had theorized Blade being scum for two days and I'm pretty sure I was attempting to help dowolf get scare to claim day 2. My suspicions have been consistent with my posts.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 11:31:46 AM
#66:


##Vote:Scare
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dowolf
10/07/18 11:39:11 AM
#67:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

Umm I had theorized Blade being scum for two days and I'm pretty sure I was attempting to help dowolf get scare to claim day 2. My suspicions have been consistent with my posts.

???

Was I part of that?
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ScareChan
10/07/18 11:39:53 AM
#68:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
##Vote:Scare

?
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 11:39:57 AM
#69:


dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

Umm I had theorized Blade being scum for two days and I'm pretty sure I was attempting to help dowolf get scare to claim day 2. My suspicions have been consistent with my posts.

???

Was I part of that?

I thought so, unless it was Mzero that I followed you on to.
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Neablis
10/07/18 12:08:56 PM
#70:


Dowolf before I start trying to filter through people during my breaks where do you sit right now on reads?
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 12:09:10 PM
#71:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
##Vote:Scare

?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Because I think this is very accurate, granted now that I look at who posted it, it could very well be an attempt at wifom from scare to prevent his lynch. He kept his mouth shut during all the redirect talk and could have saved us the Miz lynch but he let it happen.

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htaeD
10/07/18 12:28:57 PM
#72:


I just realized Scare could be the scum untargetable and he is lying about how his role works to not give dowolf an out

(as in, redirectors can make other players target him, since they never directly target the untargetable)

Bit of a stretch though, both theories are possible.
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Neablis
10/07/18 12:52:51 PM
#73:


The biggest issue with what scare is saying is that why would a scum jack target mzero exactly? And unfort sbell does hint at redirecting but never confirms it in any case.

In any case the simplest solutions are

1) Scare is lying that a redirector could make someone go towards him
2) We have a jack that targeted mzero with a block
3) Dowolf is lying about being untargetable

I am sort of leaning more towards 1 or 3 currently
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 12:55:26 PM
#74:


htaeD posted...
I just realized Scare could be the scum untargetable and he is lying about how his role works to not give dowolf an out

(as in, redirectors can make other players target him, since they never directly target the untargetable)

Bit of a stretch though, both theories are possible.

I would imagine that a redirector can send a player to an untargetable. Basically because neither of them are really targeting the untargetable.
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dowolf
10/07/18 1:08:42 PM
#75:


Neablis posted...
Dowolf before I start trying to filter through people during my breaks where do you sit right now on reads?

sorry, got distracted in anticipation of the bills' glorious victory.

1) DoubleTangicide -- Has felt out-of-the-way, albeit never enough to call a lurker.
2) dowolf -- obvwolf
3) htaeD -- i can't read death. death can confirm this.
4) IfGodCouldDie -- I'm idly suspicious of him, especially since his name keeps coming up but he never quite makes it there, and there was the find on him yesterday that uh... I can't remember what the find was but I remember liking it.
5) masterplum -- I don't recall ever suspecting him, but I also can't recall much he's done. I probably owe an ISO on him.
6) Meow1000 -- Feeling pretty bad about. He opposed me a lot day 2, but never actually managed to put up a strong opposition to a Sheep lynch, which I would've expected from him had he been town. And d3, he basically disappeared.
7) Neablis -- I feel like you've been working hard to investigate, but I don't think I've played with you before?
8) ScareChan -- Same meta-space as God, though there wasn't any such evidence against him. Plus, the way he stonewalled Han d2 felt really good to me.
9) Shaduln -- I keep forgetting he's playing.
10) Viserion -- obvscum
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Neablis
10/07/18 1:40:32 PM
#76:


No dowolf I do not think we have played together as this is my first game here.

As for your other reads I think I understand, I sort of feel the same way with a lot of nulls still this game.

There are several like Tang for instance that one of the flipped scum went after that I feel better on.

Blade looking at interactions with the other scum feel worse about (I posted this stuff yesterday), his interactions and his push on chris just feel a lot weaker as we go through the rest of the day.

Shad I cannot remember much of what he is doing

Death and plum both fall into the category when they post I cannot help but nod my head along and agree with them partially, I do feel both are playing a relatively safe game though which could go either way.

Scare I am not sure, I feel like his presure on harris was ok. His read on tange is ok but just something is bothering about him.

IGCD is idk, I could still see third party but I am not sure about scum necessarily. The bell kill does benefit him though that he is now able to play without super super pressure.

Today ahs been a little dead so far though, so these are really surface reads that I need to shore up, I feel like I am undecided about a lot of people .
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masterplum
10/07/18 2:58:14 PM
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dowolf
10/07/18 3:51:00 PM
#78:


BUFFALO!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I thought that was going wide right for a second, but nope GOT EM's!
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ScareChan
10/07/18 3:56:23 PM
#79:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
##Vote:Scare

?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Because I think this is very accurate, granted now that I look at who posted it, it could very well be an attempt at wifom from scare to prevent his lynch. He kept his mouth shut during all the redirect talk and could have saved us the Miz lynch but he let it happen.


I thought miz was scum
Miz lynch had nothing to do with him getting roleblocked
Even if it did I had nothing to do with miz being blocked
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ScareChan
10/07/18 3:57:56 PM
#80:


And if you think scum red kills town scare before town blade bless your heart

Blade should absolutely be dead by now if he is town
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 4:03:53 PM
#81:


masterplum posted...
God, have you thought scare was scum before today. Remind me

I'm not 100% sure. I admittedly have been more concerned with self preservation most of the game. It's been harder to make reads and remember where I have had everyone die to being on the defensive. I'm not sure I like how much he has been calling me town when most of the game has been pretty comfortable to call me scum. The problem is that I don't really recall him giving much in reasoning as to why he thinks I am town.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 4:09:14 PM
#82:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
##Vote:Scare

?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Because I think this is very accurate, granted now that I look at who posted it, it could very well be an attempt at wifom from scare to prevent his lynch. He kept his mouth shut during all the redirect talk and could have saved us the Miz lynch but he let it happen.


I thought miz was scum
Miz lynch had nothing to do with him getting roleblocked
Even if it did I had nothing to do with miz being blocked

Him being blocked absolutely had something to do with him getting lynched. You committing last night on the same night he was blocked likely means that Sbell sent him to you. You refused to admit that you actually commutted night 2 until now after the fact that our redirector and role cop have died.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 4:10:15 PM
#83:


ScareChan posted...
And if you think scum red kills town scare before town blade bless your heart

Blade should absolutely be dead by now if he is town

Where do have evidence that scum red is trying to kill town scare over town Blade?
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htaeD
10/07/18 4:47:11 PM
#84:


we have no evidence that scum did not know who they were shooting instead
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 4:48:55 PM
#85:


htaeD posted...
we have no evidence that scum did not know who they were shooting instead

What?
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Meow1000
10/07/18 4:50:38 PM
#86:


So yeah MZero outright claiming scum as town pretty much took my head out of it just make sure you lynch Scare and Dowolf in some order even if you lynch me first.

I am trying to care and failing at the moment. Maybe it'll be better after work.
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DragonEnergy
10/07/18 4:50:59 PM
#87:


dowolf and masterplum are bad guys in this game

trust me
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Meow1000
10/07/18 4:52:54 PM
#88:


Well no part of it was the only guy in this town I could count on dying.

Also Dowolf said day 3 I disappeared day 2 and is saying today I disappeared day 3. Scumwolf needs to be a better argument than an obvious lie.

By the way if you guys are too stupid to lynch that guy before end game I was right to stop caring.
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Meow1000
10/07/18 4:54:58 PM
#89:


Oh and MZero props for doing such a ****ty job as cop that Dowolf is probably going to live until this inactive town inevitabily loses.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 4:56:27 PM
#90:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
And if you think scum red kills town scare before town blade bless your heart

Blade should absolutely be dead by now if he is town

Where do have evidence that scum red is trying to kill town scare over town Blade?


No I'm trying to say red always kills blade before me. So I get you having paranoia about rule 1ing me but with blade still alive rule 1 doesn't apply to me yet

You get what I mean
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Meow1000
10/07/18 4:57:24 PM
#91:


Oh and if Plum claims vanilla be very wary of him.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 4:58:02 PM
#92:


Yeah blade is just shading me and shitting on the day to look like he doesn't care now

##vote: blade

This is the way to go today
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Neablis
10/07/18 5:00:43 PM
#93:


I thought we were doing a mass claim and then sorting and going from there?
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dowolf
10/07/18 5:00:54 PM
#94:


i said you did nothing d2 on d2, to be fair.

And honestly? I don't know how you argue that you weren't an entirely passive player d3.
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dowolf
10/07/18 5:01:05 PM
#95:


(that was to blade)
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htaeD
10/07/18 5:02:21 PM
#96:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
htaeD posted...
we have no evidence that scum did not know who they were shooting instead

What?


It could be that Han and Sbell were shot because scum knew they were power
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 5:03:30 PM
#97:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
And if you think scum red kills town scare before town blade bless your heart

Blade should absolutely be dead by now if he is town

Where do have evidence that scum red is trying to kill town scare over town Blade?


No I'm trying to say red always kills blade before me. So I get you having paranoia about rule 1ing me but with blade still alive rule 1 doesn't apply to me yet

You get what I mean

I'm not saying to rule 1 you though. I'm saying we should lynch you because you lied about your power use, which could have saved a town power from being killed based on the conversations that were being had yesterday.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 5:08:51 PM
#98:


htaeD posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
htaeD posted...
we have no evidence that scum did not know who they were shooting instead

What?


It could be that Han and Sbell were shot because scum knew they were power

Oh ok. Yea I'm not exactly sure what that had to do with the conversation I was having with scare but I do agree with you. They likely have some way to figure out power.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 5:15:37 PM
#99:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
And if you think scum red kills town scare before town blade bless your heart

Blade should absolutely be dead by now if he is town

Where do have evidence that scum red is trying to kill town scare over town Blade?


No I'm trying to say red always kills blade before me. So I get you having paranoia about rule 1ing me but with blade still alive rule 1 doesn't apply to me yet

You get what I mean

I'm not saying to rule 1 you though. I'm saying we should lynch you because you lied about your power use, which could have saved a town power from being killed based on the conversations that were being had yesterday.


That's fair I guess

I disagree that anything changes though. And I did say I wasnt commuting last night so you could have gathered from there.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 5:20:35 PM
#100:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
And if you think scum red kills town scare before town blade bless your heart

Blade should absolutely be dead by now if he is town

Where do have evidence that scum red is trying to kill town scare over town Blade?


No I'm trying to say red always kills blade before me. So I get you having paranoia about rule 1ing me but with blade still alive rule 1 doesn't apply to me yet

You get what I mean

I'm not saying to rule 1 you though. I'm saying we should lynch you because you lied about your power use, which could have saved a town power from being killed based on the conversations that were being had yesterday.


That's fair I guess

I disagree that anything changes though. And I did say I wasnt commuting last night so you could have gathered from there.

That doesn't mean anything if you're scum.
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