Board 8 > A Dance With Dragons Mafia - Topic 12: The Mummer's Farce Is Almost Done

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Shaduln
10/07/18 6:30:00 PM
#151:


Tormund Giantsbane, TOWN Vanilla

Something about making up a lot of stories.
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Shaduln
10/07/18 6:30:53 PM
#152:


>_>
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:31:41 PM
#153:


well dont you look silly
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 6:31:42 PM
#154:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
I didnt think it was a mislynch at the time

and like I said, again, there is no way it could have been redirected to me

How could it not have been redirected to you? A redirector does not interact with you, it changes a players target. A redirector is not going to operate the same way a bus driver does, so for you to say that Sbell would be role blocked by changing Miz's target is kind of asinine.


its literally in my role pm as a blanket statement for how stuff like that works and I asked follow up questions that made me sure that there could not be redirects, bus drives, lightning rods, or other things of that nature

Bullshit. Suprak does not give information based on possible roles that may or may not be in the game. Boom, Neab and Scare both scum. We have definitely got this game back on track.
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Shaduln
10/07/18 6:33:08 PM
#155:


I'm about to vote death on principle.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:33:12 PM
#156:


it says to the nature of targeting me including redirection roles would be roleblocked. I followed up with asking about bus driver, lightning rod, and hider if they would get roleblock message
I got a 'yes'
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:33:20 PM
#157:


damnit, something came up

crap

Town nilla, Val
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Shaduln
10/07/18 6:33:25 PM
#158:


Also uh aren't we not supposed to talk about host interaction?
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Neablis
10/07/18 6:34:31 PM
#159:


No we arent at all.

I am just going to ignore IGCD here as his reasoning is flawed.
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:34:55 PM
#160:


sorry Shad, IRL distractions

to be more flavorish, I am the princess of the wildlings

(so I guess its funny that I accidentally trolled Tormund)
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:35:56 PM
#161:


how is Neab scum, plum?
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:36:07 PM
#162:


anyways

I get irl stuff but thats a bad look from death
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Shaduln
10/07/18 6:37:14 PM
#163:


I mean, I don't think he would've actually offered the sametime to then do that on purpose. But I could be wrong.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:37:59 PM
#164:


yeah but a "hold up" before time would have been enough
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:39:05 PM
#165:


I would love to know what a scum me would gain from doing that on purpose.
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:39:49 PM
#166:


ScareChan posted...
yeah but a "hold up" before time would have been enough


Unless the distraction came right after the first agreement
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:40:29 PM
#167:


the knowledge a town death would never do that to us!

...Ive got nothing

just havent seen a botched same time like that in a long time
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:41:37 PM
#168:


Its less funny than that one botched scumhammer I had one time (and we still pulled it off!)

Again, really sorry Shad.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:42:22 PM
#169:


anyways

death you are flavor familiar, yeah?

neablis check out?
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:42:52 PM
#170:


and it was igcd who said neablis claimed scum not plum

Im pretty sure plum is some level of high and scum
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:43:31 PM
#171:


ScareChan posted...
anyways

death you are flavor familiar, yeah?

neablis check out?


series wise yes
I dont think this character appeared in the show though.
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:45:34 PM
#172:


And neablis' character was barely present in the show.
Though thematically it can fit as a watcher, a lot of characters do though.
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:48:13 PM
#173:


I am checking the wiki for this Areo Hotah though, and it doesnt say much about what he does
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ScareChan
10/07/18 6:50:04 PM
#174:


can you paraphrase your flavor Neablis?
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Neablis
10/07/18 6:50:16 PM
#175:


Yeah, plums anger reads sort of town. But the way he approached the lynch feels bad and off esecially considerinmg we are basically in mylo i think...
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Neablis
10/07/18 6:52:20 PM
#176:


Ehhh not much to be said really.

I see everythig and i barely say anything.
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htaeD
10/07/18 6:54:40 PM
#177:


Hmm, not giving much confidence there.

But unless another scanner comes in. I am inclined to believe it.
Town with just a rolecop is rather weak.

Btw I was trying to fake being power at times by randomly talking about power setup and jokes, but not very well.
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Neablis
10/07/18 7:01:39 PM
#178:


Well i wish my flavor was linger but what i gave was almost liger than what i got....almost lime his appearance in the show.

In either case i would be happy to have a 1 v 1.
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DoubleTangicide
10/07/18 7:05:12 PM
#179:


Im ok claiming as well

Im stannis Baratheon, Town Vanilla

(How the hell Suprak gives THE ONE TRUE KING OF WESTEROS no power is beyond me though)
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ScareChan
10/07/18 7:07:42 PM
#180:


who are we missing

blade, dowolf, plum?
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Shaduln
10/07/18 7:08:46 PM
#181:


Why does everyone keep talking about the flavor in regards to the show?
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htaeD
10/07/18 7:10:11 PM
#182:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Im ok claiming as well

Im stannis Baratheon, Town Vanilla

(How the hell Suprak gives THE ONE TRUE KING OF WESTEROS no power is beyond me though)


we still dont know if he'sgonna get Bolton'd to death in the books
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DoubleTangicide
10/07/18 7:11:27 PM
#183:


Thats fair

But still :/

I saw Stannis and got excited for a power lol
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ScareChan
10/07/18 7:13:15 PM
#184:


aside from any info coming out of unclaimed I think Blade is still the correct lynch today
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 7:17:51 PM
#185:


ScareChan posted...
I would like to hear from igcd since he has his own watcher/ tracker theories

##Unvote


for now since mass is rolling

and I ask IGCD to unvote me at least for now until we're through

Yea I can unvote you because Neab just claimed scum.

##Unvote
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masterplum
10/07/18 7:31:16 PM
#186:


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masterplum
10/07/18 7:32:16 PM
#187:


htaeD posted...
I would love to know what a scum me would gain from doing that on purpose.


Im with death here. He claimed vanilla. Id he claimed vig or jack or something I could see doing it as a strategy

Even then he isnt going to do it 5 minutes late >_>
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ScareChan
10/07/18 7:33:48 PM
#188:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
I would like to hear from igcd since he has his own watcher/ tracker theories

##Unvote


for now since mass is rolling

and I ask IGCD to unvote me at least for now until we're through

Yea I can unvote you because Neab just claimed scum.

##Unvote


can you explain your thoughts here
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masterplum
10/07/18 7:35:08 PM
#189:


Are we really massclaiming.

Im claiming Host assistance mafia and Im running it after this game. It is going to be a mafia game where the host gives guidance and isnt designed to be fair.
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masterplum
10/07/18 8:31:03 PM
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Neablis
10/07/18 8:34:36 PM
#191:


Let me be clear with my thought process Plum.

We are basically in mylo today for all intents in purposes. The only useful information I have garnered is that we had/have either a mafia that is untrackable or IGCD killed chris.

So before i get into my thoughts I want to talk about, I think we should or at least I should so that we can decide instead of someone showing up near eod or tommorow with a fake check and ending the game basically.

I doubt we will see eye to eye on this strategy which is fine. I do not believe we should pile votes up however nor do I believe nor want to be judged or others on role or flavor but content.

Now for my thoughts, I have been thinking hard about what happened n1 with the chris kill and the other kill.

I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

This makes the most sense why nobody claimed thw second shot, it would be easy for a mafia to fake a vig claim in that situation for cred, harder if they know one of thw shots did not come from them and they can be cc and go 1 v 1. Especially if the numbers are different than I surmise but thats another argument.

I think just logically speaking it makes sense that is the way it happened, but it does not matter in that regard.

I think personally Scare is responsible for the block on mzero, it is the easiest solution. But does not quite make him scum necessarily, if he is lying about the host pms i do not know, I hope not as thats a bit know.

@masterplum id rather work with you and aolve for tge last scum even outside the claims than have you upset because we disagree about optimal play here.

Now if I assume that you are town, which I am willing to do today at least this leaves me with a pool of

Death, dowolf, igcd, scare, blade, tang and shad.

I think I can eliminate tange right off with how scum went after him.

I agree mostly with death with how he views the game he could be a sleeper scum but i doubt it right now.

Dowolf was looki g at mzero pretty critically as scum yesterday and left himself with very very little wiggle room if he flipped. Generally i think the people who read and search for inconsitincies like he did are town. But i still have some doubts.

This leaves me eith a lynch pool of blade,igcd, scare and shad.

I ynderstand you are sold on scare here. Who else do you think and am i erong on my previous reasonings reads.
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dowolf
10/07/18 8:39:38 PM
#192:


sorry i've been in and out, but God: why is Neablis scum now???
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Shaduln
10/07/18 8:45:15 PM
#193:


Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 8:49:55 PM
#194:


ScareChan posted...
it says to the nature of targeting me including redirection roles would be roleblocked. I followed up with asking about bus driver, lightning rod, and hider if they would get roleblock message
I got a 'yes'

And I call bullshit because I don't believe Suprak would answer that question like that.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 8:51:32 PM
#195:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
it says to the nature of targeting me including redirection roles would be roleblocked. I followed up with asking about bus driver, lightning rod, and hider if they would get roleblock message
I got a 'yes'

And I call bullshit because I don't believe Suprak would answer that question like that.


im not talking about this anymore
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Neablis
10/07/18 8:52:04 PM
#196:


Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture
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masterplum
10/07/18 8:53:43 PM
#197:


##unvote

Hmm

I was expecting a vig claim to show up by now which is why I wasnt especially worried that this could be mylo. Granted we are down to Dowolf and Blade still being vig but I think if either of them were vig they would have shot each other by now.

After scare it certainly gets trickier.

I am so torn on god, especially considering that I just got crushed in my last Zero chance this person is town because town is not this terrible read. I think his claim is totally bogus but that doesnt necessarily mean he is scum.

Though actually @IfGodCouldDie could you restate every thing about your role. I dont remember who you claimed to be.

At that point I would really want to look up what the responses to these people were be. I havent done the research necessary to really decide after that. Shad, Dowolf, and Desth all have been kind of there none of them would surprise me.

Blade is the wild card. He is absolutely good enough to be scum here even though I have no read on him, but Im not touching him yet. Plus scare is tunneling him... though that actually possibly makes Blade more likely to be scum if Scare is scum I think, might be a designed ploy
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masterplum
10/07/18 8:54:25 PM
#198:


Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Why is this so surprising of a thought?
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 8:54:50 PM
#199:


Neablis posted...
No we arent at all.

I am just going to ignore IGCD here as his reasoning is flawed.

It's not flawed because a redirector does not target him.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 8:55:54 PM
#200:


Neablis posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture

If I was a third-party killing role where are the rest of the night kills?
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