Poll of the Day > Pope Francis blames the DEVIL for SEXUAL MISCONDUCT in the CHURCH!!!

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Pope Francis is making a statement on the sexual abuse scandal at the Roman Catholic Church as he blames the DEVIL for working overtime to undermine the god's church!!

He said that SATAN is to blame for the sexual abuse crisis and asked Catholics around the world to recite a prayer every day in October to try and beat him back.

He said "The Church must be saved from the attacks of the malign one, the great accusere and at the same time be made ever more aware of its guilt, its mistake and abuses committed in the present and the past"

Since elected in 2013, he made it clear he believes the devil is real who says the devil is not a myth, a representation, a symbol, a figure of speech or an idea and the mistake was to let their guard down to grow careless and vulnerable.

The church is hit by the sexual abuse scandal from Germany to the United States to Chile that is deepening the polarization between conservatives and liberals in the Church

His harshest conservative critics, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano said that Francis KNEW about the sexual misconduct but put it under the rug and said that the Pope is the "devil" is in disguise for not doing anything about it

Francis is convinced that the Devil is responsible and is hoping the people will pray the devil away...

Do you think the "Devil" is to blame for the sexual misconduct in the church?

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Seems accurate, although the clergy should still take authority on the matter as envoys of God.
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"His harshest conservative critics, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano said that Francis KNEW about the sexual misconduct but put it under the rug and said that the Pope is the "devil" is in disguise for not doing anything about it"

This part seems pretty accurate to me.

Could it be... SATAN?

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Well isn't that special?

Of course it's the devil, but all that means is people are commiting sins and requires ousting post haste.
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To wash one's hands of the matter and leave it to God is an act of the flesh. It's attempting to distance yourself from the sins of those in your flock.

If they want to prove that they're truly living by what they preach, they need to own up to it and say they will try to improve as imperfect people trying to carry out the will of a perfect Lord. Claiming to be the body of Christ but only when it's convenient is painfully hypocritical.
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Solid Sonic posted...

they need to own up to it and say they will try to improve as imperfect people trying to carry out the will of a perfect Lord.

Catholics aren't so big on the whole "acknowledging that the grand poobahs aren't perfect" thing.
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Solid Sonic posted...

To wash one's hands of the matter and leave it to God is an act of the flesh. It's attempting to distance yourself from the sins of those in your flock.

Which is why that didn't happen.

Solid Sonic posted...

If they want to prove that they're truly living by what they preach, they need to own up to it and say they will try to improve as imperfect people trying to carry out the will of a perfect Lord.

Which is implicit.
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adjl posted...

Solid Sonic posted...

they need to own up to it and say they will try to improve as imperfect people trying to carry out the will of a perfect Lord.

Catholics aren't so big on the whole "acknowledging that the grand poobahs aren't perfect" thing.

Well Catholicism is basically "corporate, enterprise religion" (which makes it similar to Scientology; take that). So PR and other b/s that corporations have to deal with end up falling onto their shoulders as well, hence why they keep making moves that are clearly motivated by humanistic endeavors, not the will of the one they supposedly serve.
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Let the priests have consensual sexual relationships.

They are forced to repress their sexual desires. That's terribly unhealthy.
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In short: God will sort it out but once He has you will be responsible for making it happen. Black and white.

I'm a heavy cynic of modern religion but it's fairly easy to use their own doctrine against them when I understand it more thoroughly than the people who supposedly pass this information down the ladder to the congregation.

I actually don't really have a problem with the Pope himself. It's not like the president can be blamed for the Ft. Hood shooting. However once it's out there, it should be all hands on deck to make sure that the problem is resolved, not just thrown behind closed doors to be dealt with in a non-transparent way. To do that is, again, something that man would do, not the servants of God. It would "make the church look bad" to confront it head on when the reality is "it casts shame on your entire belief system and turns people away".
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Let the priests have consensual sexual relationships.

They are forced to repress their sexual desires. That's terribly unhealthy.

Pedophilia actually has a lower incidence among priests than among the general population. It's just that priests are, collectively, in positions of great trust, so having them abuse that trust made for some very high-profile cases.

Solid Sonic posted...

I actually don't really have a problem with the Pope himself. It's not like the president can be blamed for the Ft. Hood shooting. However once it's out there, it should be all hands on deck to make sure that the problem is resolved, not just thrown behind closed doors to be dealt with in a non-transparent way. To do that is, again, something that man would do, not the servants of God. It would "make the church look bad" to confront it head on when the reality is "it casts shame on your entire belief system and turns people away".

Pretty much. As horrible as the actual act of molestation is, it can at least be blamed on a mental illness. Covering it up, though? That is a sound-minded decision made for no other reason than self-interest, and that is unquestionably evil.
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More than anyone I would expect the clergy to be compassionate to those who struggle with ill temptation. Their members should be able to open up to one another if they believe they're straying because anything can be absolved in the light of God, or so I'm told.

If they don't stand by that then, again, one more strike of hypocrisy to note.
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What else can he say? "We allow child molesters to run amok in Catholocism"?
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

What else can he say? "We allow child molesters to run amok in Catholocism"?

More accurately, "we actively helped child molesters to run amok because we thought it'd keep us from looking bad." That is the truth, after all. Making amends for what they did wrong requires them to admit the truth of their wrongdoing.
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I, for one, am shocked and horrified that Satan has run rampant in the Catholic Church. He's certainly managed to undermine the church with that new Pope >_>
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Gentle reminder:

The church higher-ups criticizing Francis for knowing about the abuse and doing nothing...also knew about the abuse and did nothing.
They don't like his more moderate social positions and are trying to use this issue (which has been an issue for many decades and many prior popes) to pressure him into resigning, so a new pope w/ more hard-line positions (maybe even...one of them....) can take power.

Hopefully Catholics don't fall for it, but....they probably will.

streamofthesky posted...

Gentle reminder:

The church higher-ups criticizing Francis for knowing about the abuse and doing nothing...also knew about the abuse and did nothing.
They don't like his more moderate social positions and are trying to use this issue (which has been an issue for many decades and many prior popes) to pressure him into resigning, so a new pope w/ more hard-line positions (maybe even...one of them....) can take power.

Hopefully Catholics don't fall for it, but....they probably will.

Not surprising, the Vatican is the most corrupt church on the face of the Earth. Say what you want about your average megachurch, but the actions that the Vatican has done in it's history wouldn't even fly in any other church.
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streamofthesky posted...

Gentle reminder:

The church higher-ups criticizing Francis for knowing about the abuse and doing nothing...also knew about the abuse and did nothing.
They don't like his more moderate social positions and are trying to use this issue (which has been an issue for many decades and many prior popes) to pressure him into resigning, so a new pope w/ more hard-line positions (maybe even...one of them....) can take power.

Hopefully Catholics don't fall for it, but....they probably will.

Gentle reminder:

Francis very openly defended a Chilean bishop involved in one such cover-up. And, of course, Francis very frequently takes positions antithetical to the church such as promoting homosexuality.
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Of course he would. Because Catholic priests think the greatest sin is admitting to any wrong doing. I really don't know why the hell these sick, worthless sacks of shit can't be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
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Lil_Bit83 posted...

Of course he would. Because Catholic priests think the greatest sin is admitting to any wrong doing. I really don't know why the hell these sick, worthless sacks of shit can't be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law?

Prosecution: What should happen to these pedo monsters
Persecution: What they'll claim to their followers is happening to them in the above scenario

streamofthesky posted...

Gentle reminder:

The church higher-ups criticizing Francis for knowing about the abuse and doing nothing...also knew about the abuse and did nothing.
They don't like his more moderate social positions and are trying to use this issue (which has been an issue for many decades and many prior popes) to pressure him into resigning, so a new pope w/ more hard-line positions (maybe even...one of them....) can take power.

Hopefully Catholics don't fall for it, but....they probably will.

The criticisms aren't without merit, but this is important to remember. The scandal broke like 2-3 popes ago; Francis is complicit in the continued coverup and defense of those involved, but he's far from the only higher-up responsible, and in fact bears a fairly small portion of that responsibility.

Zeus posted...

And, of course, Francis very frequently takes positions antithetical to the church such as promoting homosexuality.

Papal infallibility means that homophobic people are actually the ones taking positions antithetical to the church. Get with the times, bro. Gay people are fine now.
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adjl posted...

Zeus posted...

And, of course, Francis very frequently takes positions antithetical to the church such as promoting homosexuality.

Papal infallibility means that homophobic people are actually the ones taking positions antithetical to the church. Get with the times, bro. Gay people are fine now.

idk, the Pope is talking about agents of Satan infiltrating the church. Seems pretty likely that they could get one of their agents in the highest-ranking position in order to tear down the religion, bro.
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