Board 8 > Paging Leon and others, gimme some advanced stats for Bayonetta and Riku

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ExThaNemesis
10/09/18 4:52:10 PM
#1:


Normally I would have picked Bayo without a second thought here, but Riku has some sneaky strength if I remember correctly.

I am banking on KH3 hype being at max levels because of how far I've got Sora going.

I need to decide if that hype, plus the Smash community's hatred of Bayonetta, gives Riku a chance to take this match or not.

Help me (and others) out with some stats for Bayo and Riku the last time we saw them if you could.
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DoomTheGyarados
10/09/18 4:56:49 PM
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Bayonetta (2013c) VS Riku (2013c)

Bayonetta has a strength of 22.51.
Riku has a strength of 27.74.

Riku wins with 59.43% of the vote!
A win of 10,173 with 53,960 total votes cast.
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ExThaNemesis
10/09/18 4:59:28 PM
#3:


KH3 hype and Smash community disdain for Bayo.

I think we're going to murder the casuals on that one.
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pyresword
10/09/18 5:00:58 PM
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Do people consider the 2013 xstats to be reliable? I've just been avoiding them by default given all the weird stuff that happened, but I guess I haven't really given it much thought.
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pjbasis
10/09/18 5:04:20 PM
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I'm confused why people think bayo has any strength.

Too new. KH3 hype ya done
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ExThaNemesis
10/09/18 5:10:35 PM
#6:


pyresword posted...
Do people consider the 2013 xstats to be reliable? I've just been avoiding them by default given all the weird stuff that happened, but I guess I haven't really given it much thought.


That's the problem. There is still value to be derived from some of it, but you have to make decisions on what seems wonky and what seems legitimate.

I think the Pokemon and Vivi are all really overrated for example.
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ExThaNemesis
10/09/18 5:11:06 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I'm confused why people think bayo has any strength.


People are thinking that since she got into Smash she'll boost.

Normally I'd agree but we both know how the Smash community feels about her.
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pjbasis
10/09/18 5:13:40 PM
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I wonder if that matters.

I don't think gamefaqs has a substantial tournament base.
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ExThaNemesis
10/09/18 5:15:05 PM
#9:


Yeah.

Bayo/Riku has potential to be so close that something small like that might make the difference.

What are the odds that they drop another KH3 trailer in the next couple of weeks?
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MoogleKupo141
10/09/18 5:37:44 PM
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Bayonetta also got Bayonetta 2 and the PC port of her first game since the last contest. She could be significantly stronger now
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ExThaNemesis
10/09/18 5:42:59 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
Bayonetta also got Bayonetta 2 and the PC port of her first game since the last contest. She could be significantly stronger now


Thanks. I haven't followed her series at all or played either game so she's a total unknown for me.

Except for being super hot.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/09/18 5:54:22 PM
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Eh it's just one point, I'm not getting a headache trying to compare KH3 hype to smash tournament hate.
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BK_Sheikah00
10/09/18 7:38:11 PM
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KH3 Trailer finally revealing FF characters could change everything.

Imagine if Noctis and Lightning are in.
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LeonhartFour
10/10/18 3:35:10 PM
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easy comparison points:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5234-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-2-solid-snake-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5171-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-alucard-vs-falcon-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3815-midgar-division-round-2-riku-vs-captain-falcon

keep in mind that this was before Bayonetta was in Smash and before she was on a lot of Nintendo stuff in general

you can talk about how much people hate her there but it didn't stop Meta Knight from being popular

ZeldaTPLink posted...
Eh it's just one point


it could easily be worth more than 1 point!
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LeonhartFour
10/10/18 3:40:11 PM
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pyresword posted...
Do people consider the 2013 xstats to be reliable? I've just been avoiding them by default given all the weird stuff that happened, but I guess I haven't really given it much thought.


I didn't look at the actual X-Stats while making my bracket

I did look at past results and try to take the circumstances into consideration when making picks, but even the adjustments in 2013 are based on data that's 8-10 years old at this point.
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ExThaNemesis
10/11/18 12:45:47 AM
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That is a pretty garbage Bayo performance.

I think I'm gonna go with the KH3 hype train in the end but we'll see.
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SuperNiceDog
10/11/18 12:51:44 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
That is a pretty garbage Bayo performance.

I think I'm gonna go with the KH3 hype train in the end but we'll see.


I have Riku, he's too dreamy to lose
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SuperNiceDog
10/11/18 12:53:13 AM
#19:


Sh6XzZ6

Only in dreams...
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ffmasterjose
10/11/18 12:58:47 AM
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I assumed Bayo was something that Board 8 loved. Whoever wins that match gets to Round 3 tho.
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Xuxon
10/11/18 1:27:14 AM
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Eh it's just one point, I'm not getting a headache trying to compare KH3 hype to smash tournament hate.

if you think this is a 1-point match you had better have Sans winning the whole contest
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LeonhartFour
10/11/18 1:28:46 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
That is a pretty garbage Bayo performance.


eh it suggests a 55/45 win for Riku assuming constant Alucard and Falcon (which isn't a given naturally)

it's within the realm of Bayonetta being able to close that gap within the last 5 years
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