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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 12:54:18 PM
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https://www.eastwindblog.co/?p=1245

Super interesting read.
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 1:09:34 PM
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@Antifar
@averagejoel
@Godnorgosh
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What do you think, comrades?
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monkmith
10/10/18 1:21:05 PM
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pure communism doesn't scale up well beyond a commune, and even then you run into jim jones or charles mansons. you're always going to have greedy people looking to grab as much power as possible, its why the communist countries are dictatorships.
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prince_leo
10/10/18 1:27:16 PM
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it seems cool, but strikes me as more of a post-apocalyptic society than one we currently live in
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averagejoel
10/10/18 1:27:19 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
What do you think, comrades?

communes are good

monkmith posted...
pure communism doesn't scale up well beyond a commune, and even then you run into jim jones or charles mansons. you're always going to have greedy people looking to grab as much power as possible, its why the communist countries are dictatorships.

"communist country" is an oxymoron. read a book
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Rick-C137
10/10/18 1:28:22 PM
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not hard to manage production when its a few deer and cows
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ElatedVenusaur
10/10/18 1:28:41 PM
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There wasn't any consensus of what communism would be prior to the Russian Revolution, and there's really no reason to base yourself off of that.
Personally, I think it's impossible to build a meaningfully communist society without democracy.
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 1:35:14 PM
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prince_leo posted...
it seems cool, but strikes me as more of a post-apocalyptic society than one we currently live in


Someone should make a documentary on them so we can see what their amenities and homes are like, if everything is clean and safe, how much you could scale up their model before it collapses, etc.
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averagejoel
10/10/18 1:37:44 PM
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oh wait tc I just noticed your sig. is this another proudclad alt
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 1:38:56 PM
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averagejoel posted...
oh wait tc I just noticed your sig. is this another proudclad alt


Absolutely. *eats averagejoel's arm*
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Questionmarktarius
10/10/18 1:40:09 PM
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monkmith posted...
pure communism doesn't scale up well beyond a commune, and even then you run into jim jones or charles mansons. you're always going to have greedy people looking to grab as much power as possible, its why the communist countries are dictatorships.

Hy-Vee is technically a communist organization. The workers own the means of production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_ownership
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averagejoel
10/10/18 1:40:16 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
oh wait tc I just noticed your sig. is this another proudclad alt


Absolutely. *eats averagejoel's arm*

thank you. to the ignore list you go
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monkmith
10/10/18 1:49:33 PM
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averagejoel posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
oh wait tc I just noticed your sig. is this another proudclad alt


Absolutely. *eats averagejoel's arm*

thank you. to the ignore list you go

can i go there too? your comments are low effort and ignorant.
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monkmith
10/10/18 1:54:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
monkmith posted...
pure communism doesn't scale up well beyond a commune, and even then you run into jim jones or charles mansons. you're always going to have greedy people looking to grab as much power as possible, its why the communist countries are dictatorships.

Hy-Vee is technically a communist organization. The workers own the means of production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_ownership

its a grocery store chain right? i know absolutely nothing about that company, but when you say they own the means of production are you saying that every product they sell is produced by a farm that is a member of their co-op? if so that's neat, but they're still essentially just a big commune.
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averagejoel
10/10/18 1:59:03 PM
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monkmith posted...
averagejoel posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
averagejoel posted...
oh wait tc I just noticed your sig. is this another proudclad alt


Absolutely. *eats averagejoel's arm*

thank you. to the ignore list you go

can i go there too? your comments are low effort and ignorant.

low effort sure, ignorant no.

and I will decide whether or not to put you there, thank you
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 2:00:59 PM
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averagejoel blocks anyone who challenges his fragile worldview
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 2:21:50 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
averagejoel blocks anyone who challenges his fragile worldview

Lol you blocked me on your suspended account, hypocrite

Proudclad blocks anyone who challenges his fragile worldview
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0AbsoluteZero0
10/10/18 2:24:04 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Wariodorf posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
averagejoel blocks anyone who challenges his fragile worldview

Lol you blocked me on your suspended account, hypocrite

Proudclad blocks anyone who challenges his fragile worldview

Can confirm
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 2:31:31 PM
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The only people I block are the ones who post garbage and never engage in an actual debate. If someone's posting consists entirely of jabs and hot take insults, you're damn straight that your opinions are worthless.
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halomonkey1_3_5
10/10/18 2:34:44 PM
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there is a gay commune in the hills in Tennessee that has been a thing for like 40 years

I'll try to find an article about it cuz I read about it a year or two ago and it was really interesting, although IIRC they were a lot less concerned with being communists and more about just living someplace they could be gay hippies in peace
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Tmaster148
10/10/18 2:35:36 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
The only people I block are the ones who post garbage and never engage in an actual debate. If someone's posting consists entirely of jabs and hot take insults, you're damn straight that your opinions are worthless.


Says the guy who calls everyone communist.
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TheCyborgNinja
10/10/18 2:37:51 PM
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Human nature will never allow communism to work... unless selective breeding or mass lobotomies are used to declaw people into passive drones.
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sktgamer_13dude
10/10/18 2:38:12 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
averagejoel blocks anyone who challenges his fragile worldview

Says the guy who acts like a modern day McCarthy and calls everyone who disagrees with him a communist.

Dont throw stones in glass houses Proudclod.
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monkmith
10/10/18 2:40:14 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
The only people I block are the ones who post garbage and never engage in an actual debate. If someone's posting consists entirely of jabs and hot take insults, you're damn straight that your opinions are worthless.


Says the guy who calls everyone communist.

communist
antifascist
socialist
marxist
leftist

Pick two of of five. That's what he'll tag you as. It doesn't matter, as long as he believes he's right

antifascist doesn't sound to bad. i'd hope everyone was against fascists.
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Tmaster148
10/10/18 2:41:52 PM
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monkmith posted...
Wariodorf posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
The only people I block are the ones who post garbage and never engage in an actual debate. If someone's posting consists entirely of jabs and hot take insults, you're damn straight that your opinions are worthless.


Says the guy who calls everyone communist.

communist
antifascist
socialist
marxist
leftist

Pick two of of five. That's what he'll tag you as. It doesn't matter, as long as he believes he's right

antifascist doesn't sound to bad. i'd hope everyone was against fascists.


There are people who are anti anti fascist.
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averagejoel
10/10/18 2:50:07 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Human nature will never allow communism to work... unless selective breeding or mass lobotomies are used to declaw people into passive drones.

you are operating on the assumption that human nature is static. it isn't.
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josifrees
10/10/18 3:10:41 PM
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The last stage of communism is the first stage of Marxs History.
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 3:11:24 PM
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I've never tagged anyone as antifascist.

Also note that I call people communists if they openly say they are communists. I don't call averagejoel a communist simply because he disagrees with me - he openly calls himself a communist.

Really interesting how the far left radicals on CE are the ones who most often deflect away from that by posting shit like "he calls everyone who disagrees with him a commie" even though it is demonstrably untrue.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 3:20:33 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
The only people I block are the ones who post garbage and never engage in an actual debate. If someone's posting consists entirely of jabs and hot take insults, you're damn straight that your opinions are worthless.

You just described yourself.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 3:23:12 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
I've never tagged anyone as antifascist.

Also note that I call people communists if they openly say they are communists. I don't call averagejoel a communist simply because he disagrees with me - he openly calls himself a communist.

Really interesting how the far left radicals on CE are the ones who most often deflect away from that by posting shit like "he calls everyone who disagrees with him a commie" even though it is demonstrably untrue.

And youre blatantly lying here, remember when you posted your list of CEs communists and most of them had no idea why they were labeled like that? Or are you still pretending that didnt happen?
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 3:24:22 PM
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Imagine ignoring the people who admitted that my list labeled them accurately and dwelling on the one guy who was mislabeled because he played devil's advocate about communism once.

My list is overwhelmingly accurate.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 3:33:54 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
Imagine ignoring the people who admitted that my list labeled them accurately and dwelling on the one guy who was mislabeled because he played devil's advocate about communism once.

My list is overwhelmingly accurate.

One guy

Meaning half your list
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Tmaster148
10/10/18 3:35:19 PM
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Proudclad:"User is a communist"
User: "I'm not a communist"
Proudclad: "Nope, you are. I said so"
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Romulox28
10/10/18 3:36:40 PM
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also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 3:39:52 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 3:40:34 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Proudclad:"User is a communist"
User: "I'm not a communist"
Proudclad: "HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT MARX?!"

Fixed it for how that topic went down.
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YUHH
10/10/18 3:40:45 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.

Yet you only ever foam at the mouth about one of those while the other actually has more footing (and influence) in America.
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 3:41:43 PM
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YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.

Yet you only ever foam at the mouth about one of those while the other actually has more footing (and influence) in America.


CE has many more Marxists than neo Nazis, but I've called out the latter too. Stop deflecting away from Marxism with that whataboutism.
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YUHH
10/10/18 3:42:28 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.

Yet you only ever foam at the mouth about one of those while the other actually has more footing (and influence) in America.


CE has many more Marxists than neo Nazis, but I've called out the latter too. Stop deflecting away from Marxism with that whataboutism.

So you only want to talk about it on the scale of CE? Gotcha.
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 3:45:36 PM
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YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.

Yet you only ever foam at the mouth about one of those while the other actually has more footing (and influence) in America.


CE has many more Marxists than neo Nazis, but I've called out the latter too. Stop deflecting away from Marxism with that whataboutism.

So you only want to talk about it on the scale of CE? Gotcha.


I'm happy to talk about it on whatever scale you want, but if the topic in question is specifically about extremists on CE than there are many more radical leftists so obviously they'd take up more conversation.
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YUHH
10/10/18 3:46:28 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.

Yet you only ever foam at the mouth about one of those while the other actually has more footing (and influence) in America.


CE has many more Marxists than neo Nazis, but I've called out the latter too. Stop deflecting away from Marxism with that whataboutism.

So you only want to talk about it on the scale of CE? Gotcha.


I'm happy to talk about it on whatever scale you want, but if the topic in question is specifically about extremists on CE than there are many more radical leftists so obviously they'd take up more conversation.

And this topic isn't about CE now is it?
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 3:46:43 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
YUHH posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
also who cares what theoretical political system someone argues in favor of?


If it's an inherently violent one like Marxism or Nazism, we should all care.

Yet you only ever foam at the mouth about one of those while the other actually has more footing (and influence) in America.


CE has many more Marxists than neo Nazis, but I've called out the latter too. Stop deflecting away from Marxism with that whataboutism.

So you only want to talk about it on the scale of CE? Gotcha.


I'm happy to talk about it on whatever scale you want, but if the topic in question is specifically about extremists on CE than there are many more radical leftists so obviously they'd take up more conversation.

Another blatant lie
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Tmaster148
10/10/18 3:49:08 PM
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Considering the failure of Proudclad's topic calling out communist on CE. There's clearly not that many. It's an insignificant amount.
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httpgrandmaster
10/10/18 3:49:17 PM
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It's really weird how the far left CEmen deflect to "whatabout Nazis" whenever Marxism is challenged.

Fuck Nazis. There's like one or two users here who are actually neo Nazis (that one dude with the Nazi numbers in his username and the other dude with the pony avatar).
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King_Hellebuyck
10/10/18 3:54:22 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
It's really weird how the far left CEmen deflect to "whatabout Nazis" whenever Marxism is challenged.

Fuck Nazis. There's like one or two users here who are actually neo Nazis (that one dude with the Nazi numbers in his username and the other dude with the pony avatar).

Its because you ignore the barrage of far right posters in order to go on a McCarthyist goose chase to disrupt topics and call everyone a commie.

But Im sure youll continue to ignore that fact.
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