Board 8 > October Switch Online NES Games (including a Zelda 1 Romhack) are available

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Jakyl25
10/10/18 2:28:40 PM
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Super Dodge Ball
NES Open Tournament Golf
Solomons Key


Have all been added to the lineup as expected

BUT ALSO

The Legend of Zelda: Special Edition

Its Zelda 1 but you start with all the items

Wild!
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LeonhartFour
10/10/18 2:29:13 PM
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 2:47:48 PM
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Okay Im playing this Zelda Special Edition

You start with all the non-dungeon sub-items, including the Power Bracelet and Blue Ring, 6 hearts total, the White Sword, the Magical Shield, 8 bombs, and 255 Rupees

Also it seems like all the secret doors on the overworld map are already open

I guess some people think Zelda 1 is too hard?

I explored to see which Heart Containers on the overworld they took out to give you 3 extra starting hearts. Its the one east of the desert, the one along the south shore, and the one under a tree on the south side of the lake.
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Reg
10/10/18 2:49:03 PM
#4:


Jakyl25 posted...
Its Zelda 1 but you start with all the items

Why?
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 2:53:12 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...

I guess some people think Zelda 1 is too hard?


Also you start with 9 keys, LOL
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ninkendo
10/10/18 2:54:17 PM
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It's like a tourist mode for people who want to check the email but maybe not want to seriously put time and doing

They're going to be doing a similar thing soon to Super Mario Bros 3 and metroid
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Heroic Bigpun
10/10/18 3:08:47 PM
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SUPER DODGE BALL

Caps
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Heroic Bigpun
10/10/18 3:16:05 PM
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Also do y'all not remember how fucking cryptic and time consuming zelda 1 was without a guide or help?

Yea, this might be hand holding but I think its justified here
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WazzupGenius00
10/10/18 3:20:22 PM
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FWIW it's not a romhack of the game, it's just a savestate. If you try to start a second file it starts with nothing. It's like they started the game and literally just walked around all of the overworld getting everything possible that doesn't require entering a dungeon, went back to the first screen, and savestated. Also if you try to just use the regular battery save to come back to the game later you'll be in for a major letdown: the game automatically loads that savestate every time you start it so all battery save is erased. You have to use savestates only if you want to keep your data
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 3:21:45 PM
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Oh now I get it

Theyre starting you with literally everything you could possibly have without going into a single dungeon

Its kind of ridiculous though for an experienced player. I made this topic less than an hour ago and Im already 5 dungeons deep
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 3:23:43 PM
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ninkendo posted...
It's like a tourist mode for people who want to check the game out but maybe not want to seriously put time and doing

They're going to be doing a similar thing soon to Super Mario Bros 3 and metroid


How would that work for Mario 3?

Just a full inventory of high-powered items and warp whistles?
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LeonhartFour
10/10/18 3:24:27 PM
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 3:24:44 PM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
FWIW it's not a romhack of the game, it's just a savestate. If you try to start a second file it starts with nothing. It's like they started the game and literally just walked around all of the overworld getting everything possible that doesn't require entering a dungeon, went back to the first screen, and savestated. Also if you try to just use the regular battery save to come back to the game later you'll be in for a major letdown: the game automatically loads that savestate every time you start it so all battery save is erased. You have to use savestates only if you want to keep your data


Thats such a DUMB WAY to do this

A Nintendo-like solution
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Heroic Bigpun
10/10/18 3:27:58 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Infinite P-Wings baby

This, more than likely

if I recall correctly if you beat the game and start over you have nothing but P wings in your inventory. Judging by how complicated that Zelda thing is, the save state for Mario 3 will probably just be an employee having already beaten the game and starting you there
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 3:35:30 PM
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Zelda 1 combat question

Is there any real strategy for dealing with Gleeok? The multi-headed dragon who keeps popping up with another head each time.

Ive never been able to figure anything out that works well besides just a berserker rage on him and tanking his shots with potion at the ready
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Heroic Bigpun
10/10/18 3:36:30 PM
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Don't you just bomb him?
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Heroic Bigpun
10/10/18 3:36:50 PM
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Oh wait I'm probably thinking of the plant thing
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Johnbobb
10/10/18 3:53:31 PM
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oh my god played Super Dodge Ball for the first time in my life

jesus christ this game
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LeonhartFour
10/10/18 3:54:16 PM
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 3:56:41 PM
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Heroic Bigpun posted...
Oh wait I'm probably thinking of the plant thing


Yeah I one-shotted Manhandla. Hes a piece of cake
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Kenri
10/10/18 3:57:24 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Zelda 1 combat question

Is there any real strategy for dealing with Gleeok? The multi-headed dragon who keeps popping up with another head each time.

Ive never been able to figure anything out that works well besides just a berserker rage on him and tanking his shots with potion at the ready

I think my strategy was to just spam sword beams and not get hit, but really that works for almost everything in Zelda 1.
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Johnbobb
10/10/18 3:57:31 PM
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oh man the India team is Rajiv, Swami, Bata, Kumar, Zail and Akbar

against USA's Sam, John, Mike, Randy, Bill and Steve

I'm so curious what the rest of the countries will be
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pjbasis
10/10/18 4:04:49 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Is there any real strategy for dealing with Gleeok?


There's only one shot visible on screen at a time.

So I like to position myself so it has to take a long route before hitting a wall, like going diagonally to a corner. Then get a hit or two in.

I did it with three hearts!
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 4:36:11 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Is there any real strategy for dealing with Gleeok?


There's only one shot visible on screen at a time.

So I like to position myself so it has to take a long route before hitting a wall, like going diagonally to a corner. Then get a hit or two in.

I did it with three hearts!


Nice!
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 4:46:08 PM
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Wait

Its touting that if you beat the game, youll get access to a more difficult Second Quest!

So since this is just a save state, that just means you get the regular second quest, right?

Thats hilarious
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 4:53:19 PM
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Just realized also

Since whoever played this to get this savestate had to bomb every secret cave and burn every secret bush, but LEAVE the money for us, that means to get the items they had to grind like 500 Rupees just from enemies

What a fun job

EDIT: When you add the 9 keys thats OVER 1000 RUPEES
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Team Rocket Elite
10/10/18 5:13:45 PM
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Did they leave the Door Repair charges as well?

Also it wouldn't surprise me if it was possible to abuse the RNG to make tons of money via the Money Making game.
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 5:16:03 PM
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Are there any of those in the First Quest?
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 5:17:29 PM
#29:


Okay there are plenty <_<

And no, they left those hidden
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Wreath
10/10/18 5:18:46 PM
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ninkendo posted...
It's like a tourist mode for people who want to check the game out but maybe not want to seriously put time and doing

They're going to be doing a similar thing soon to Super Mario Bros 3 and metroid


So it's basically baby editions for the cod and halo kids who hate games requiring more than 10 minutes before satisfaction
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FFnut
10/10/18 5:21:46 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Did they leave the Door Repair charges as well?

Also it wouldn't surprise me if it was possible to abuse the RNG to make tons of money via the Money Making game.

I mean, if it's a save state it's totally possible - the results from the money making game are set as soon as you walk in the door. Just save state, pick one at random, check which one has the highest payout, load state, and grab that one instead.
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 6:43:23 PM
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Okay I beat it

The Second Quest it promises is, indeed, just the normal Second Quest from the beginning

LOL why even bother mentioning it
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-hotdogturtle--
10/10/18 6:48:01 PM
#33:


Jakyl25 posted...
Okay I beat it

The Second Quest it promises is, indeed, just the normal Second Quest from the beginning

LOL why even bother mentioning it

Well, doesn't that indeed make it a harder quest, if someone's first experience with the game was with "all items"?
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Jakyl25
10/10/18 6:55:03 PM
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Yes, nothing they said was factually incorrect
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WazzupGenius00
10/10/18 9:58:51 PM
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If you want another tip on Gleeoks, their hitbox is placed in such a way that you can stab to the right of it and still get hits in, so if I don't have beams I try to stand on the right side only

Also they probably save scummed on Money Making game to make that savestate rather than grinding out 1000s of rupees on enemies
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Paratroopa1
10/10/18 10:02:48 PM
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this pains me
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Paratroopa1
10/10/18 10:03:17 PM
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Gleeok's a bastard and the only way I know how to fight him is just to duck and weave around his shots as much as possible. he does have KIND OF a predictable rhythm to it
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Paratroopa1
10/10/18 10:03:54 PM
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grinding a bunch of rupees off of enemies isn't that horrifying a proposition, just farm ghinis
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Team Rocket Elite
10/10/18 10:49:16 PM
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I would how well it works as a speed game. I've seen some people have started working on routing the game but I haven't seen a video of a full speedrun yet.
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Paratroopa1
10/10/18 10:51:11 PM
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I'd certainly stand a much better chance because I just CANNOT run the non-blue ring route, starting off with levels 3 and 4 is too much
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