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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 8:44:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA" data-time="


tl;dr - he talks about how the KGB intentionally worked hard to implement psychological warfare in America. Example: By indoctrinating / demoralizing generations of children and students, to the point where you can shower them with damning evidence / facts / data / proof that the Marxist ideology is wrong without changing their mind.

Then he talks about how the KGB intended to further decay America, with collapse being largely self-driven once the Soviet propaganda has primed a few generations of Americans onto a self-destructive path.

We can see it happening, too. Humanity has experienced such rapid decreases in poverty in the last 100 years. The standard of living across the entire planet has skyrocketed during that time. People everywhere, even in the poorest countries today, have much longer lifespans than in the 1950s and before.

Yet if you show a Marxist this data, they will ignore it or simply try to grasp at straws as to how it is wrong or how the trend is not sustainable. It's literally religious indoctrination at this point.

Here's a good summary on his views in general:

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/34-years-ago-a-kgb-defector-described-america-today
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Doom_Art
10/12/18 8:46:04 PM
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Yeah it's scary how the right has been bent out of shape by propaganda and conditioning
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Paper_Okami
10/12/18 8:47:49 PM
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you have severe problems
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Unbreakable
10/12/18 8:48:53 PM
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Why did you turn into McCarthy Jr? It's a really lame gimmick
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 8:49:41 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
you have severe problems


Says the person who made multiple topics about attending Marxist events.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:04:53 PM
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AlecSkorpio
10/12/18 9:06:57 PM
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solosnake
10/12/18 9:08:29 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4utEI2EU64" data-time="

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TheRealDill2000
10/12/18 9:08:44 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
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Did you seriously bump after 15 minutes??
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AboRTSuBMIsSION
10/12/18 9:22:55 PM
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This interview was done a long time ago. I wonder what he thinks now.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:24:27 PM
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AboRTSuBMIsSION posted...
This interview was done a long time ago. I wonder what he thinks now.


He died in the early 90s IIRC. But he was pretty much right. Even on this board there are people who you could slap with all kinds of hard evidence and facts about the real state of the global economy and they still won't listen because it doesn't jive well with their Marxist programming.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/12/18 9:31:29 PM
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This makes sense. Trump colluded with Russia and all of his bullshit is indoctrination. America is going to shit because trump has been brainwashed by Russia into doing there bidding. This KGB guy was probably part of it in the early days and in this article has come clean about it.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:32:37 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This makes sense. Trump colluded with Russia and all of his bullshit is indoctrination. America is going to shit because trump has been brainwashed by Russia into doing there bidding. This KGB guy was probably part of it in the early days and in this article has come clean about it.


Trump is definitely a Russian ploy to further divide the country.
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LightningAce11
10/12/18 9:32:38 PM
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None of the kids who believe in this aren't in any real position of power to implement anything.

They'll either grow out of it, or just spend their days attending talks and posting online.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/12/18 9:35:33 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This makes sense. Trump colluded with Russia and all of his bullshit is indoctrination. America is going to shit because trump has been brainwashed by Russia into doing there bidding. This KGB guy was probably part of it in the early days and in this article has come clean about it.


Trump is definitely a Russian ploy to further divide the country.


You say that sarcastically but that's an error on your part.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:35:58 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This makes sense. Trump colluded with Russia and all of his bullshit is indoctrination. America is going to shit because trump has been brainwashed by Russia into doing there bidding. This KGB guy was probably part of it in the early days and in this article has come clean about it.


Trump is definitely a Russian ploy to further divide the country.


You say that sarcastically but that's an error on your part.


I was 100% serious.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:42:11 PM
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@solosnake posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4utEI2EU64" data-time="


Fucking terrifying
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Funbazooka
10/12/18 9:42:58 PM
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Remember when it turned out some Russians on Facebook were playing both sides? They were posing as both left-wingers and right-wingers just to rile folks up even more.

But Democrats conveniently forget about that. Goes down the memory hole.
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/12/18 9:43:32 PM
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Except America isnt socialist at all. We worship money and let the poor die and view it as efficient.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:43:50 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Remember when it turned out some Russians on Facebook were playing both sides? They were posing as both left-wingers and right-wingers just to rile folks up even more.

But Democrats conveniently forget about that. Goes down the memory hole.


Yep. There was a lot of evidence of Russian bots on Reddit and Facebook and other major sites. Posting as both far right and far left.

It's literally obvious by this point that Russia is trying to splinter the country in two.
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httpgrandmaster
10/12/18 9:48:46 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
Didn't check the OP video but I recall reading on here that there was a Russian who wrote a book about how to take down the world powers. For the U.S. it was stated that only a great divide between the people would destabilize it, and then something about swooping in to help them out and take the land.


That's basically what the video is about. That book was part of regular KGB training/indoctrination.
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iPhone_7
10/12/18 9:48:56 PM
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Russian trolls farms were meant to stir s*** up throughout western countries

Its just that right wingers/nationalists are dumber & more likely to fall for this s***. Theyre doing a fine job at helping to get demagogues into power.
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Unbreakable
10/12/18 9:53:07 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This makes sense. Trump colluded with Russia and all of his bullshit is indoctrination. America is going to shit because trump has been brainwashed by Russia into doing there bidding. This KGB guy was probably part of it in the early days and in this article has come clean about it.


Trump is definitely a Russian ploy to further divide the country.


You say that sarcastically but that's an error on your part.


I was 100% serious.

Aren't you a Trump supporter though?
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