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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 2:52:02 PM
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Sure, it's not perfect by any means. They could improve in many ways, especially when it comes to safety in the factory and less work load. But they're hustling hard against the titans of the automotive industry and powerful oil interests that would prefer electric cars to go away.

They're producing amazing vehicles and battery technology and getting better at it with each passing day. State of the art factories. Super cool mission and initiative that is actually aiming to solve real problems (climate change and dirty transportation).

Cars and batteries manufactured in America and produced by Americans. Some of the largest (and still growing) factories on the planet with room to grow more and hire more people as they scale.

Yet the far right and the far left have both fallen for short-seller and big oil interests. The far right attacks it because of a lack of profit (even though it's a start-up in a VERY competitive space, with billions in cash reserves and on the precipice of making a profit) and the far left attacks it because of exaggerations about worker safety and paranoia about what the company's "true" intentions are.

Fucking ridiculous. Support Tesla, what they're doing is wonderful.
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NeonOctopus
10/13/18 2:53:50 PM
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But its it's run by a guy who can't handle name calling from a random diver and openly smokes weed on camera
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 2:55:00 PM
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Imagine getting upset that someone smoked weed on camera and imagine not understanding that everyone is a human who makes mistakes at some point or another.
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NeonOctopus
10/13/18 2:56:04 PM
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AlecSkorpio
10/13/18 2:56:16 PM
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I don't hate Tesla, but I'm not gonna suck Elon Musks dick either.
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Menardii
10/13/18 2:57:11 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
Imagine getting upset that someone smoked weed on camera and imagine not understanding that everyone is a human who makes mistakes at some point or another.

Doubling down on calling the diver a pedo isn't a mistake
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 2:58:33 PM
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Menardii posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Imagine getting upset that someone smoked weed on camera and imagine not understanding that everyone is a human who makes mistakes at some point or another.

Doubling down on calling the diver a pedo isn't a mistake


Yeah it is. And that's done and over with. No need to keep dwelling on and using it as fuel for a deeply irrational and disturbed hatred of Tesla.
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Menardii
10/13/18 2:59:31 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
Menardii posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Imagine getting upset that someone smoked weed on camera and imagine not understanding that everyone is a human who makes mistakes at some point or another.

Doubling down on calling the diver a pedo isn't a mistake


Yeah it is. And that's done and over with. No need to keep dwelling on and using it as fuel for a deeply irrational and disturbed hatred of Tesla.

Holy shit
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creativerealms
10/13/18 3:00:05 PM
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Musk doesn't worship Trump.
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 3:10:19 PM
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bump
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fan357
10/13/18 3:11:27 PM
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Building American is great but their employees are treated like garbage.
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booboy
10/13/18 3:11:28 PM
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He courted Saudi fucking Arabia of all places.
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monkmith
10/13/18 3:18:07 PM
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their cars are overpriced crap, the only good their car company has done is to force the other car makers into making electric cars.

hyperloop is over-hyped garbage that anyone with any engineering/physics sense realizes is a fraud.

their battery business is fine, will be better once they finish their factory.

spaceX is fine, its not revolutionary (because all they've done is reuse 50 year old tech) and its not pushing space exploration forward (that's still NASA) but its proving that there's money to be made in the field.
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Solid Snake07
10/13/18 3:19:05 PM
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Who hates tesla
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 3:27:14 PM
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monkmith posted...
their cars are overpriced crap, the only good their car company has done is to force the other car makers into making electric cars.

hyperloop is over-hyped garbage that anyone with any engineering/physics sense realizes is a fraud.

their battery business is fine, will be better once they finish their factory.

spaceX is fine, its not revolutionary (because all they've done is reuse 50 year old tech) and its not pushing space exploration forward (that's still NASA) but its proving that there's money to be made in the field.


how in the fuck could a single person be this wrong? holy shit literally everything you said was wrong
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monkmith
10/13/18 3:32:47 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
monkmith posted...
their cars are overpriced crap, the only good their car company has done is to force the other car makers into making electric cars.

hyperloop is over-hyped garbage that anyone with any engineering/physics sense realizes is a fraud.

their battery business is fine, will be better once they finish their factory.

spaceX is fine, its not revolutionary (because all they've done is reuse 50 year old tech) and its not pushing space exploration forward (that's still NASA) but its proving that there's money to be made in the field.


how in the fuck could a single person be this wrong? holy shit literally everything you said was wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR4CFiuR3tQ" data-time="


if you believe in hyperloop you're touched in the head.
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NES4EVER
10/13/18 3:35:21 PM
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monkmith posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
monkmith posted...
their cars are overpriced crap, the only good their car company has done is to force the other car makers into making electric cars.

hyperloop is over-hyped garbage that anyone with any engineering/physics sense realizes is a fraud.

their battery business is fine, will be better once they finish their factory.

spaceX is fine, its not revolutionary (because all they've done is reuse 50 year old tech) and its not pushing space exploration forward (that's still NASA) but its proving that there's money to be made in the field.


how in the fuck could a single person be this wrong? holy shit literally everything you said was wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR4CFiuR3tQ" data-time="


if you believe in hyperloop you're touched in the head.


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KStateKing17
10/13/18 3:39:18 PM
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I like the idea of getting away from the dependence of oil, especially from other corrupt countries, but Elon Musk is kind of a weirdo. The behavior of the face of the country can impact how people look at the product. I wouldn't get one until I was a little more confident in the reliability though.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/13/18 3:40:47 PM
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Tesla supports trump and communism at the same time.
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Marmitecashews
10/13/18 4:04:30 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
Menardii posted...
httpgrandmaster posted...
Imagine getting upset that someone smoked weed on camera and imagine not understanding that everyone is a human who makes mistakes at some point or another.

Doubling down on calling the diver a pedo isn't a mistake


Yeah it is. And that's done and over with. No need to keep dwelling on and using it as fuel for a deeply irrational and disturbed hatred of Tesla.

Isn't he still in the process of being sued?
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 4:10:32 PM
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bump
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Butterfiles
10/13/18 4:15:34 PM
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lmao

proudclad is on this mans dick harder than grimeth ever was
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rikasa
10/13/18 4:16:14 PM
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agreed and also. I want to Fuck elon
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50Blessings
10/13/18 4:18:18 PM
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c7ewrsE
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 4:20:03 PM
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rikasa posted...
agreed and also. I want to Fuck elon


This is the only rational position.
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10/13/18 4:24:58 PM
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emblem boy
10/13/18 4:44:58 PM
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I don't hate Tesla, but me liking it definitely has nothing to do with it being an American company or not. And I wouldn't want that to be a reason people like it
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hockeybub89
10/13/18 4:48:01 PM
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This implies I value Americans more than others.

I guess a big government nationalist like you would think like that.
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 4:56:22 PM
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emblem boy posted...
I don't hate Tesla, but me liking it definitely has nothing to do with it being an American company or not. And I wouldn't want that to be a reason people like it


It's definitely cool that it's an American company that is building and manufacturing as much as possible in America. It employs a ton of Americans. We should be encouraging more of that.
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hockeybub89
10/13/18 4:58:39 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
emblem boy posted...
I don't hate Tesla, but me liking it definitely has nothing to do with it being an American company or not. And I wouldn't want that to be a reason people like it


It's definitely cool that it's an American company that is building and manufacturing as much as possible in America. It employs a ton of Americans. We should be encouraging more of that.

Why is that cool? There are non-American companies that employ Americans and vice versa too. Is being American supposed to mean something?
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 5:11:55 PM
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On my way to test drive a Model 3! Might end up writing a check!
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Turbam
10/13/18 5:16:32 PM
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You got 14 karmies and 94 posts
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 5:57:20 PM
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bump
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httpgrandmaster
10/13/18 7:39:22 PM
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It was a fun test drive. Phew lad is it expensive. Cook County has something like a 8.5% tax on vehicles so that comes out to 5-6 grand just in sales tax. Then there's a $1200 destination / registration fee. So you're already spending around $7,500 before you even start paying down the car lol.

The $7500 federap tax credit wipes most of that out but it'll suck when the tax credit goes away.
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