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Blighboy
10/14/18 2:34:50 PM
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The fact that American foods don't need to list the amount of sugar (unless I'm misunderstanding?) Is astounding to me. That should probably be the most important thing to list after calories.
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Unbreakable
10/14/18 2:35:38 PM
#52:


Blighboy posted...
The fact that American foods don't need to list the amount of sugar (unless I'm misunderstanding?) Is astounding to me. That should probably be the most important thing to list after calories.

Our packaged foods certainly do. It's menu items that they are referring to
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Antifar
10/14/18 2:36:52 PM
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TC, what do you make of the Trump administration's efforts to block Mexico and Canada from requiring labels regarding sugar on food packaging?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/world/americas/nafta-food-labels-obesity.html

Officials in Mexico and Canada along with governments in Brazil, Peru, Uruguay, Argentina and Colombia are discussing options like the use of colors, shapes and other easy-to-understand symbols that warn consumers of health risks. They were inspired in large part by Chiles introduction of stringent regulations in 2016 that include requirements for black stop-sign warnings on the front of some packages.

But the Office of the United States Trade Representative, which is leading the Nafta talks on the American side, is trying to head off the momentum. It is pushing to limit the ability of any Nafta member to require consumer warnings on the front of sugary drinks and fatty packaged foods, according to a draft of the proposal reviewed by The New York Times.

The American provision seeks to prevent any warning symbol, shape or color that inappropriately denotes that a hazard exists from consumption of the food or nonalcoholic beverages.

Some experts have likened the fight over food labeling to that over tobacco and the fierce if ultimately unsuccessful opposition and lobbying that industry waged to prevent the imposition of health warnings on packaging. The Trump administrations position on food labeling reflects the desires of a broad coalition of soft-drink and packaged-foods manufacturers in the United States.
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Proponents of more explicit labels said the Trump administrations proposal and the corporate pressure behind it hold the potential to handcuff public health interests for decades.

It is one of the most invasive forms of industrial interference we have seen, said Alejandro Calvillo, the founder of El Poder del Consumidor, or Consumer Power, a health advocacy group in Mexico that was illegally targeted with government spyware when it fought for a soda tax in Mexico. The collusion between the industry and the government is not only at the level of spying it reaches the level of the renegotiation of Nafta and the nations own policy against obesity.

The American proposal conflicts with the guidance from Mexicos national health institute and from the World Health Organization. Both have recommended that Mexico pass regulations to help combat diabetes, which claims 80,000 lives a year there. That is one of the highest rates in the world and more than double the record number of homicides in the nation in 2017.

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Blighboy
10/14/18 2:39:25 PM
#54:


Unbreakable posted...
Blighboy posted...
The fact that American foods don't need to list the amount of sugar (unless I'm misunderstanding?) Is astounding to me. That should probably be the most important thing to list after calories.

Our packaged foods certainly do. It's menu items that they are referring to

So am I correct in understanding you have something like this on everything?

https://imgur.com/QKQsskq

Because in that case responsibility falls on the consumer.
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Unbreakable
10/14/18 2:39:55 PM
#55:


Blighboy posted...
Unbreakable posted...
Blighboy posted...
The fact that American foods don't need to list the amount of sugar (unless I'm misunderstanding?) Is astounding to me. That should probably be the most important thing to list after calories.

Our packaged foods certainly do. It's menu items that they are referring to

So am I correct in understanding you have something like this on everything?

https://imgur.com/QKQsskq

Because in that case responsibility falls on the consumer.

Yes you are correct
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Alucard188
10/14/18 2:42:28 PM
#56:


Blighboy posted...
Unbreakable posted...
Blighboy posted...
The fact that American foods don't need to list the amount of sugar (unless I'm misunderstanding?) Is astounding to me. That should probably be the most important thing to list after calories.

Our packaged foods certainly do. It's menu items that they are referring to

So am I correct in understanding you have something like this on everything?

https://imgur.com/QKQsskq

Because in that case responsibility falls on the consumer.


That looks like bread to me, and it irritates me that there's sugar even in that.
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Unbreakable
10/14/18 2:44:32 PM
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Antifar posted...
TC, what do you make of the Trump administration's efforts to block Mexico and Canada from requiring labels regarding sugar on food packaging?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/world/americas/nafta-food-labels-obesity.html

Officials in Mexico and Canada along with governments in Brazil, Peru, Uruguay, Argentina and Colombia are discussing options like the use of colors, shapes and other easy-to-understand symbols that warn consumers of health risks. They were inspired in large part by Chiles introduction of stringent regulations in 2016 that include requirements for black stop-sign warnings on the front of some packages.

But the Office of the United States Trade Representative, which is leading the Nafta talks on the American side, is trying to head off the momentum. It is pushing to limit the ability of any Nafta member to require consumer warnings on the front of sugary drinks and fatty packaged foods, according to a draft of the proposal reviewed by The New York Times.

The American provision seeks to prevent any warning symbol, shape or color that inappropriately denotes that a hazard exists from consumption of the food or nonalcoholic beverages.

Some experts have likened the fight over food labeling to that over tobacco and the fierce if ultimately unsuccessful opposition and lobbying that industry waged to prevent the imposition of health warnings on packaging. The Trump administrations position on food labeling reflects the desires of a broad coalition of soft-drink and packaged-foods manufacturers in the United States.
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Proponents of more explicit labels said the Trump administrations proposal and the corporate pressure behind it hold the potential to handcuff public health interests for decades.

It is one of the most invasive forms of industrial interference we have seen, said Alejandro Calvillo, the founder of El Poder del Consumidor, or Consumer Power, a health advocacy group in Mexico that was illegally targeted with government spyware when it fought for a soda tax in Mexico. The collusion between the industry and the government is not only at the level of spying it reaches the level of the renegotiation of Nafta and the nations own policy against obesity.

The American proposal conflicts with the guidance from Mexicos national health institute and from the World Health Organization. Both have recommended that Mexico pass regulations to help combat diabetes, which claims 80,000 lives a year there. That is one of the highest rates in the world and more than double the record number of homicides in the nation in 2017.

@southcoast09
Oh dear, your leader has made up your mind for you. Guessing you don't support regulation on showing sugar amounts now?
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southcoast09
10/14/18 2:52:57 PM
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I think its a bad move. Mexico has eclipsed the United States (or they at lead had, at one point) in obesity. All of America needs to fight together to defeat obesity, and knowledge is half of the battle.
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KamenRiderBlade
10/14/18 3:02:02 PM
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We need to replace White Bread with eiter Whole Wheat or Multi-grain across the board.

Same with all Flour based products.

White Rice should be replaced with the healthiest version of Brown Rice.

etc.

That would actually help a lot of people.

Eliminate White Bread / White Rice from the menu as options.
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CapnMuffin
10/14/18 3:07:03 PM
#60:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
We need to replace White Bread with eiter Whole Wheat or Multi-grain across the board.

Same with all Flour based products.

White Rice should be replaced with the healthiest version of Brown Rice.

etc.

That would actually help a lot of people.

Eliminate White Bread / White Rice from the menu as options.

You can apply this to noodles, etc.

Sorry dude youve been scammed. The whole multi grain thing is just another marketing ploy and not actually better for you.
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Knowledge_King
10/14/18 3:24:02 PM
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So...train the soldiers until they're not fat?
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KamenRiderBlade
10/14/18 3:40:30 PM
#62:


CapnMuffin posted...
Sorry dude youve been scammed. The whole multi grain thing is just another marketing ploy and not actually better for you.
You're right, Whole Wheat / Whole Grain is better for you.

That is deceptive marketing.
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KamenRiderBlade
10/14/18 3:43:32 PM
#63:


We need Whole Wheat/Grain & Enriched Wheat/Grain as our daily choices.

We also need to add less salt/sodium to our foods.

We don't actually need that much in our diets.
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EdgeMaster
10/14/18 3:43:44 PM
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Awesome posted...
i wasnt that fat, i maxed out at near 280 pounds and would maybe be 400 pounds right now if i listened to my bs crap doctors who wanted to put me on zoloft/effexor/concerta/adderal.


So youre roughly 280lbs giving diet advice?
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YookaLaylee
10/14/18 3:45:02 PM
#65:


The solution is very straightforward: just make a fat tax. If youre overweight by a certain number of pounds for your height then you get charged a large tax. Nobody would want to pay that so theyd be forced to get in shape. And the lazy people who dont change their ways would help the government take in a huge amount of money
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southcoast09
10/14/18 3:50:00 PM
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Another thing is alcohol. Supposedly, the yeast eats the sugar, but diabetics cant drink it. When I was recovering from heavy alcoholism, I also had massive sugar withdrawals. I think that drinking beer and alcohol is one way that people consume sugar without really thinking about it.
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KamenRiderBlade
10/14/18 3:53:27 PM
#67:


YookaLaylee posted...
The solution is very straightforward: just make a fat tax. If youre overweight by a certain number of pounds for your height then you get charged a large tax. Nobody would want to pay that so theyd be forced to get in shape. And the lazy people who dont change their ways would help the government take in a huge amount of money
You do know that they're going to cry discrimination.
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YookaLaylee
10/14/18 3:58:04 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
The solution is very straightforward: just make a fat tax. If youre overweight by a certain number of pounds for your height then you get charged a large tax. Nobody would want to pay that so theyd be forced to get in shape. And the lazy people who dont change their ways would help the government take in a huge amount of money
You do know that they're going to cry discrimination.

Get most of the Supreme Court on board with it and it wont matter how much they cry
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CapnMuffin
10/14/18 4:07:26 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Sorry dude youve been scammed. The whole multi grain thing is just another marketing ploy and not actually better for you.
You're right, Whole Wheat / Whole Grain is better for you.

That is deceptive marketing.

No. Its all just a way to get grabbed off the grocery shelf. Whole grain has been shown to have no significant value. The body does not absorb the vitamins of the bran and germ, and what little it does are vitamins that most people dont lack anyways.

Additionally theres evidence bran can bind to beneficial minerals, keeping them from being absorbed.

Its always like that. Some fad comes along and companies jump on the band wagon and convince you their food is better for you.

Fat Free!

Whole Grain!

Sugar Free!

No GMOs!

It. Is. All. Marketing. There is always a catch.
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KamenRiderBlade
10/14/18 4:23:05 PM
#70:


CapnMuffin posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Sorry dude youve been scammed. The whole multi grain thing is just another marketing ploy and not actually better for you.
You're right, Whole Wheat / Whole Grain is better for you.

That is deceptive marketing.

No. Its all just a way to get grabbed off the grocery shelf. Whole grain has been shown to have no significant value. The body does not absorb the vitamins of the bran and germ, and what little it does are vitamins that most people dont lack anyways.

Additionally theres evidence bran can bind to beneficial minerals, keeping them from being absorbed.

Its always like that. Some fad comes along and companies jump on the band wagon and convince you their food is better for you.

Fat Free!

Whole Grain!

Sugar Free!

No GMOs!

It. Is. All. Marketing. There is always a catch.
IC
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YUHH
10/15/18 10:13:01 PM
#73:


@southcoast09 posted...
I would love to see a federal mandate

oh, you mean something like a regulation and government oversight? Things that Republicans usually have pants shitting fear about?
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ColdOne666
10/15/18 10:28:02 PM
#74:


Crepes posted...
Amazes me how the USA dont have nutritional info on food.

EU has for decades.

https://www.nutrition.org.uk/images/cache/537bf3c6516df645818e2ae91c333456_w800.png


Wtf US doesnt have this? I thought every country had this.
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ColdOne666
10/15/18 10:38:21 PM
#76:


CapnMuffin posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Sorry dude youve been scammed. The whole multi grain thing is just another marketing ploy and not actually better for you.
You're right, Whole Wheat / Whole Grain is better for you.

That is deceptive marketing.

No. Its all just a way to get grabbed off the grocery shelf. Whole grain has been shown to have no significant value. The body does not absorb the vitamins of the bran and germ, and what little it does are vitamins that most people dont lack anyways.

Additionally theres evidence bran can bind to beneficial minerals, keeping them from being absorbed.

Its always like that. Some fad comes along and companies jump on the band wagon and convince you their food is better for you.

Fat Free!

Whole Grain!

Sugar Free!

No GMOs!

It. Is. All. Marketing. There is always a catch.


This is garbage, stop lying. Wholegrain is healthy.
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