Current Events > Conservatives: Someone can't have a native american ancestor if they look white.

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Pathetic.
But what else would you expect from people who believe clusters of stem cells are sentient beings and that global warming is a Chinese hoax.

The strawmanning is strong with this one.
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Also conservatives: "I will give $1,000,000 to charity if you prove X"
*proves X*
"Just kidding"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhIlNg9Cd2I" data-time="

So... the "one drop rule" is good now?

Paragon21XX posted...

The strawmanning is strong with this one.

Not really. It is the party of ignoring reality, science, and empirical evidence. Trump took it a step further by saying that he never said he would donate $1m, even though he is literally on video saying it verbatim. There is a reason most people who are college educated vote democrat.

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CiIIIantro posted...

Also conservatives: "I will give $1,000,000 to charity if you prove X"
*proves X*
"Just kidding"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhIlNg9Cd2I" data-time="

She didnt prove anything outstanding. The results made her look like a complete fool, actually.
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isn't she like just 1% native american? that's pretty meaningless.

southcoast09 posted...

CiIIIantro posted...

Also conservatives: "I will give $1,000,000 to charity if you prove X"
*proves X*
"Just kidding"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhIlNg9Cd2I" data-time="

She didnt prove anything outstanding. The results made her look like a complete fool, actually.

Did you even watch the interview with he DNA expert? He flat out says "Yes, she has detectable levels of native american ancestry with a 99% confidence interval". Trying to argue otherwise is like trying to argue global warming isnt happening even though we have factual data showing the numbers going up. Unfortunately, conservatives also do that. The ignorance is unfathomable.

CornBarn posted...

isn't she like just 1% native american? that's pretty meaningless.

The point is that she once said she has a native american ancestor. That is what this whole thing is about. Thats it. She never applied for affirmative action protection or anything.

CiIIIantro posted...

Thats it. She never applied for affirmative action protection or anything.

Not formally, no.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/01/facts-behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/

She owned herself by pointlessly engaging a racist conservative jibe and doing so in a way that was sufficiently insensitive as to (rightfully!)anger the Cherokee nation. I now have severe doubts as to her political instincts.

1/1,024
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CiIIIantro posted...

Also conservatives: "I will give $1,000,000 to charity if you prove X"
*proves X*
"Just kidding"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhIlNg9Cd2I" data-time="

She proved she's 0.09% Native American, within the margin of error, and isn't the average percentage .18? So not only is she not a native american, she's whiter than everyone else.
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ElatedVenusaur posted...

She owned herself by pointlessly engaging a racist conservative jibe and doing so in a way that was sufficiently insensitive as to (rightfully!)anger the Cherokee nation. I now have severe doubts as to her political instincts.

She literally spent time in the video discussing this and saying she is not entitled to any tribal membership. You people have been watching too much Fox News.

Crazyman93 posted...

CiIIIantro posted...

Also conservatives: "I will give $1,000,000 to charity if you prove X"
*proves X*
"Just kidding"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhIlNg9Cd2I" data-time="

She proved she's 0.09% Native American, within the margin of error, and isn't the average percentage .18? So not only is she not a native american, she's whiter than everyone else.

Oh, so we are just going to make up arbitrary numbers to support our political options now? This is a fact: if you have native american ancestry, then you are part native american. I bet you don't believe in global warming even though you can literally look at the historical temperature and see that it is increasing.

CiIIIantro posted...

ElatedVenusaur posted...

She owned herself by pointlessly engaging a racist conservative jibe and doing so in a way that was sufficiently insensitive as to (rightfully!)anger the Cherokee nation. I now have severe doubts as to her political instincts.

She literally spent time in the video discussing this and saying she is not entitled to any tribal membership. You people have been watching too much Fox News.

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a persons ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."
http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test
ITT, the Cherokee are Fox News, apparently. The best thing Senator Warren can do at this point is to eat the crow and apologize profusely to the Cherokee Nation.

NPC
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ElatedVenusaur posted...

CiIIIantro posted...

ElatedVenusaur posted...

She owned herself by pointlessly engaging a racist conservative jibe and doing so in a way that was sufficiently insensitive as to (rightfully!)anger the Cherokee nation. I now have severe doubts as to her political instincts.

She literally spent time in the video discussing this and saying she is not entitled to any tribal membership. You people have been watching too much Fox News.

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a persons ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."
http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test
ITT, the Cherokee are Fox News, apparently. The best thing Senator Warren can do at this point is to eat the crow and apologize profusely to the Cherokee Nation.

Meanwhile you give Trump a pass for repeatedly calling her a native american slur. Typical.

ElatedVenusaur posted...

ITT, the Cherokee are Fox News, apparently. The best thing Senator Warren can do at this point is to eat the crow and apologize profusely to the Cherokee Nation.

And look wrong? You do know she's in politics, right? In the era where humility no longer exists on any side?
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Conservatives: "Someone can't have a Native American ancestor if they look white."

Redneck conservatives: "My great great grandfather was half Cherokee. Also, white power!"
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ElatedVenusaur posted...

CiIIIantro posted...

ElatedVenusaur posted...

She owned herself by pointlessly engaging a racist conservative jibe and doing so in a way that was sufficiently insensitive as to (rightfully!)anger the Cherokee nation. I now have severe doubts as to her political instincts.

She literally spent time in the video discussing this and saying she is not entitled to any tribal membership. You people have been watching too much Fox News.

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a persons ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."
http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test
ITT, the Cherokee are Fox News, apparently. The best thing Senator Warren can do at this point is to eat the crow and apologize profusely to the Cherokee Nation.

Damn.
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Paragon21XX posted...

The strawmanning is strong with this one.

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SK8T3R215 posted...

1/1,024

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It's not even just about her blood. That her dad's family even perceived that her mother was Indian has shaped their identity as a family. Her mother passed Native culture to her. And then look, what do you know. She does have some Native blood, just like she's been saying. This whole thing is stupid racist bullshit.
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I've got Demon blood in me, DEAN
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Funbazooka posted...

I've got Demon blood in me, DEAN

Shut up, Sam.
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I just love that nobody can attack her for her policies, so they attack her over some stupid detail about something she said once.

You're not talking about her policies tho, Cilantor.
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Liberals: Someone can't have an African ancestor if they look white

TheKentster posted...

Liberals: Someone can't have an African ancestor if they look white

Said no liberal ever.

CiIIIantro posted...

TheKentster posted...

Liberals: Someone can't have an African ancestor if they look white

Said no liberal ever.

then why cant white people say the n-word? they can have african roots too, no?

Fam_Fam posted...

CiIIIantro posted...

TheKentster posted...

Liberals: Someone can't have an African ancestor if they look white

Said no liberal ever.

then why cant white people say the n-word? they can have african roots too, no?

Nobody should say the n word.

How the fuck has Trump calling a sitting senator "Pocahontas" resulted in the lefty posters sounding like bigger idiots than the righty posters?
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CiIIIantro posted...

Pathetic.
But what else would you expect from people who believe clusters of stem cells are sentient beings and that global warming is a Chinese hoax.

also conservatives: "you have "one drop" of non-white blood so we want to kick you out of the country, MAGA"
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I'm conservative

I'm 1/8th Native American

I have a Native American ancestor but I am white

I am not Native American.

Warren will have to go back to stereo types, lies, and common misconception when trying to convince people shes Native American since the DNA test proved her false.

I have high cheek bones so im Native American!

I guess anything to deceive voters though.
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SageHarpuiaHX posted...

I'm conservative

I'm 1/8th Native American

I have a Native American ancestor but I am white

I am not Native American.

Your beloved 1 drop rule says you're not white :)
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CiIIIantro posted...

TheKentster posted...

Liberals: Someone can't have an African ancestor if they look white

Said no liberal ever.

Wasn't there the 1/6th thing or something. Like back in the 1800s they said if someone was x amount African American but looked white they were still considered black

Idk if it was dems or reps tho
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you can. I read that most white americans have at least 1% native dna in them. but that's not really enough to call yourself native. to me, you need to be at least 25% of something to be considered that ethnicity

Zikten posted...

you can. I read that most white americans have at least 1% native dna in them. but that's not really enough to call yourself native. to me, you need to be at least 25% of something to be considered that ethnicity

So hispanics are white then?
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What's even the original claim she made that Trump went all insane about? Did she claim minority status to achieve something, or did she just tell a story somewhere?

BJ-blazkowics posted...

Zikten posted...

you can. I read that most white americans have at least 1% native dna in them. but that's not really enough to call yourself native. to me, you need to be at least 25% of something to be considered that ethnicity

So hispanics are white then?

Most Hispanics in America are between 40 and 90 percent European.
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SageHarpuiaHX posted...

I'm conservative

I'm 1/8th Native American

I have a Native American ancestor but I am white

I am not Native American.

But you have native american blood, which was all that Elizabeth Warren claimed.

When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside
Ya' gotta take a stand, it don't help to hide
If you hurt my friends, can you hurt my pride
I gotta be a man, I can't let it slide
I am a real Native American
Fight for the rights of every man
I am a real Native American
Fight for what's right - Fight for your life
Well I'm feeling strong about right and wrong (Ooo yeah)
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Fony posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

Zikten posted...

you can. I read that most white americans have at least 1% native dna in them. but that's not really enough to call yourself native. to me, you need to be at least 25% of something to be considered that ethnicity

So hispanics are white then?

Most Hispanics in America are between 40 and 90 percent European.

I agree.

Yet 45, Miller, Tom Cotton, Richard Spencer and the rest of the alt right say they're 100% un-white
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