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ChainedRedone 10/19/18 1:30:25 PM #1:	https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2018/08/13/white-man-shoots-black-man-florida-stand-your-ground/977563002/ Remember people were defending the shooter? Jesus. If you think he did nothing wrong and own firearms, please turn them in before you murder someone. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:910802545] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2018/08/13/white-man-shoots-black-man-florida-stand-your-ground/977563002/ Remember people were defending the shooter? Jesus. If you think he did nothing wrong and own firearms, please turn them in before you murder someone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 10/19/18 1:35:56 PM #2:	First time I saw this but seems like a fair next decision to charge. That said, don't assault people, the stupid prize to stupid games is often a bullet. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:910802835] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>First time I saw this but seems like a fair next decision to charge. That said, don't assault people, the stupid prize to stupid games is often a bullet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 10/19/18 1:38:55 PM #3:	Why doesnt he use his white privilege? --- Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:910802989] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>Why doesnt he use his white privilege?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 10/19/18 1:40:26 PM #4:	Wait people defended the shooter? (of course)...Its funny how people treat "self defense". so many times i see shooters being defended for shooting first, but in this case a man walks out of a store and sees a strange man shouting at his wife who is inside a car with his children, so he comes over and pushes him away in their defense. he doesn't know what that man is doing...and the reaction is "welp, i mean you were violent did you expect NOT to get shot?". Im glad this dude got charged. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:910803080] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>Wait people defended the shooter? (of course)...Its funny how people treat "self defense". so many times i see shooters being defended for shooting first, but in this case a man walks out of a store and sees a strange man shouting at his wife who is inside a car with his children, so he comes over and pushes him away in their defense. he doesn't know what that man is doing...and the reaction is "welp, i mean you were violent did you expect NOT to get shot?". Im glad this dude got charged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 1:43:05 PM #5:	If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910803210] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 10/19/18 1:45:43 PM #6:	Darklit_Minuet posted... If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself if someone is confronting your wife and kids in an aggressive manner you have every right to defend them. In this case the instigator was dealt with using "self defense" and then that instigator continued to make the situation worse by taking out his gun. You shouldn't be saying "if you don't want to get shot don't push people", you should be starting with "if you don't want to get pushed on the ground don't start being aggressive towards people for no reason". "He had to shoot his life was in Danger!"...he put himself in that "dangerous" situation first. don't blame the people defending themselves. blame him. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:910803341] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself</quote> if someone is confronting your wife and kids in an aggressive manner you have every right to defend them. In this case the instigator was dealt with using "self defense" and then that instigator continued to make the situation worse by taking out his gun. You shouldn't be saying "if you don't want to get shot don't push people", you should be starting with "if you don't want to get pushed on the ground don't start being aggressive towards people for no reason". "He had to shoot his life was in Danger!"...he put himself in that "dangerous" situation first. don't blame the people defending themselves. blame him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/19/18 1:46:02 PM #7:	VipaGTS posted... Wait people defended the shooter? (of course)...Its funny how people treat "self defense". so many times i see shooters being defended for shooting first, but in this case a man walks out of a store and sees a strange man shouting at his wife who is inside a car with his children, so he comes over and pushes him away in their defense. he doesn't know what that man is doing...and the reaction is "welp, i mean you were violent did you expect NOT to get shot?". Im glad this dude got charged. Yeah there were quite a few people saying the shooter did nothing wrong because his life was in danger. But the guy was already backing off when he shot him --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:910803355] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Wait people defended the shooter? (of course)...Its funny how people treat "self defense". so many times i see shooters being defended for shooting first, but in this case a man walks out of a store and sees a strange man shouting at his wife who is inside a car with his children, so he comes over and pushes him away in their defense. he doesn't know what that man is doing...and the reaction is "welp, i mean you were violent did you expect NOT to get shot?". Im glad this dude got charged.</quote> Yeah there were quite a few people saying the shooter did nothing wrong because his life was in danger. But the guy was already backing off when he shot him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 10/19/18 1:46:52 PM #8:	Darklit_Minuet posted... If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself But its no longer defense once your assailant is walking away. At that point it becomes retaliation. Retaliation =/= defense --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:910803409] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself</quote> But its no longer defense once your assailant is walking away. At that point it becomes retaliation. Retaliation =/= defense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 10/19/18 1:47:47 PM #9:	SuperMedz3 posted... Why doesnt he use his white privilege? Who said he has white privilege? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:910803447] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why doesnt he use his white privilege?</quote> Who said he has white privilege?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/19/18 1:53:27 PM #10:	the shooter is the one who started it. he is the villain of the story. the victim was a hero defending his wife. I hope the shooter goes to prison if you know the backstory of how it all started, the shooter has a history of bitching about parking spots in front of that store. and he was threatening the wife <cite>Zikten posted [p:910803758] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>the shooter is the one who started it. he is the villain of the story. the victim was a hero defending his wife. I hope the shooter goes to prison if you know the backstory of how it all started, the shooter has a history of bitching about parking spots in front of that store. and he was threatening the wife</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 1:57:50 PM #11:	Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910803977] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/19/18 2:20:58 PM #12:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence and the other guy escalated a shove into murder --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:910805248] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> and the other guy escalated a shove into murder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 10/19/18 2:21:12 PM #13:	Bishop9800 posted... SuperMedz3 posted... Why doesnt he use his white privilege? Who said he has white privilege? I did --- Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:910805263] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why doesnt he use his white privilege?</quote> Who said he has white privilege?</quote> I did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 2:22:16 PM #14:	thronedfire2 posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence and the other guy escalated a shove into murder Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910805329] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> and the other guy escalated a shove into murder</quote> Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 10/19/18 2:23:33 PM #15:	Florida Man comic The hero we don't need, or deserve! --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25408 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:910805402] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>Florida Man comic The hero we don't need, or deserve!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 10/19/18 2:24:15 PM #16:	Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence and the other guy escalated a shove into murder Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole Why is he charged then? --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:910805442] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> and the other guy escalated a shove into murder</quote> Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole</quote> Why is he charged then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/19/18 2:24:37 PM #17:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. that right vanishes as soon as the threat is gone. when he shot, the victim was walking away <cite>Zikten posted [p:910805474] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself.</quote> that right vanishes as soon as the threat is gone. when he shot, the victim was walking away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 2:24:41 PM #18:	frozenshock posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence and the other guy escalated a shove into murder Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole Why is he charged then? Why wasn't Zimmerman charged for doing the same thing? Laws are inconsistent <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910805480] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> and the other guy escalated a shove into murder</quote> Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole</quote> Why is he charged then?</quote> Why wasn't Zimmerman charged for doing the same thing? Laws are inconsistent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/19/18 2:25:15 PM #19:	frozenshock posted... Why is he charged then? he got shoved to the ground then the shover walked away and the shooter pulled out his gun to get revenge. it was not self defense, just revenge <cite>Zikten posted [p:910805510] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Why is he charged then?</quote> he got shoved to the ground then the shover walked away and the shooter pulled out his gun to get revenge. it was not self defense, just revenge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 10/19/18 2:25:24 PM #20:	Darklit_Minuet posted... frozenshock posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence and the other guy escalated a shove into murder Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole Why is he charged then? Why wasn't Zimmerman charged for doing the same thing? Laws are inconsistent Same thing? --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:910805516] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> and the other guy escalated a shove into murder</quote> Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole</quote> Why is he charged then?</quote> Why wasn't Zimmerman charged for doing the same thing? Laws are inconsistent</quote> Same thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 10/19/18 2:25:53 PM #21:	Zikten posted... frozenshock posted... Why is he charged then? he got shoved to the ground then the shover walked away and the shooter pulled out his gun to get revenge. it was not self defense, just revenge Exactly. The immediate threat had passed. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:910805548] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Why is he charged then?</quote> he got shoved to the ground then the shover walked away and the shooter pulled out his gun to get revenge. it was not self defense, just revenge</quote> Exactly. The immediate threat had passed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 2:26:55 PM #22:	frozenshock posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... frozenshock posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... the victim was a hero defending his wife He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence and the other guy escalated a shove into murder Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole Why is he charged then? Why wasn't Zimmerman charged for doing the same thing? Laws are inconsistent Same thing? Picked a fight, started losing, killed someone <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910805605] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>the victim was a hero defending his wife</quote> He escalated a verbal dispute to physical violence</quote> and the other guy escalated a shove into murder</quote> Once someone gets physical with you, you have the right to defend yourself. Don't ever lay your hands on another person, even if they're being a shit-talking asshole</quote> Why is he charged then?</quote> Why wasn't Zimmerman charged for doing the same thing? Laws are inconsistent</quote> Same thing?</quote> Picked a fight, started losing, killed someone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/19/18 2:26:58 PM #23:	Darklit_Minuet posted... If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself lolwut Yet you oppose Zimmerman who was being shoved to the ground and punched in the face? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:910805610] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself</quote> lolwut Yet you oppose Zimmerman who was being shoved to the ground and punched in the face?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 2:27:23 PM #24:	UnfairRepresent posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself lolwut Yet you oppose Zimmerman who was being shoved to the ground and punched in the face? I oppose the inconsistency <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910805637] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>If someone shoves you to the ground you should have the right to defend yourself</quote> lolwut Yet you oppose Zimmerman who was being shoved to the ground and punched in the face?</quote> I oppose the inconsistency</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 10/19/18 3:46:57 PM #25:	Darklit_Minuet posted... I oppose the inconsistency Zim has his head knocked against the pavement multiple times and reason to fear for his life. These cases are so different, there's no inconsistency in the law. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:910810087] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>I oppose the inconsistency</quote> Zim has his head knocked against the pavement multiple times and reason to fear for his life. These cases are so different, there's no inconsistency in the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 10/19/18 3:51:21 PM #26:	what a joke. Manslaughter really? why is he not being charged with homicide? manslaughter means that he did not have intent to kill. But he did have that intent when he shot at vital organs <cite>L0Z posted [p:910810335] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>what a joke. Manslaughter really? why is he not being charged with homicide? manslaughter means that he did not have intent to kill. But he did have that intent when he shot at vital organs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 10/19/18 3:52:21 PM #27:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Zim has his head knocked against the pavement multiple times and reason to fear for his life Just because you guys keep saying this doesn't make it true <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:910810398] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Zim has his head knocked against the pavement multiple times and reason to fear for his life</quote> Just because you guys keep saying this doesn't make it true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
---Devin--- 10/19/18 5:18:22 PM #28:	People are such bitches these days lmfao You knew you would get your ass beat, so as the dude's walking away you pull a gun. How pussy are you --- Pick up the ladder, put it in the gun, make the 9 stretch <cite>---Devin--- posted [p:910814935] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>People are such bitches these days lmfao You knew you would get your ass beat, so as the dude's walking away you pull a gun. How pussy are you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 10/19/18 6:46:58 PM #29:	L0Z posted... what a joke. Manslaughter really? why is he not being charged with homicide? manslaughter means that he did not have intent to kill. But he did have that intent when he shot at vital organs Manslaughter is a form of homicide. What the hell are you babbling about. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:910819084] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>L0Z posted...</cite> <quote>what a joke. Manslaughter really? why is he not being charged with homicide? manslaughter means that he did not have intent to kill. But he did have that intent when he shot at vital organs</quote> Manslaughter is a form of homicide. What the hell are you babbling about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 10/19/18 6:50:53 PM #30:	The more of these dumb cowboy motherfuckers they put away the better --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:910819258] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote>The more of these dumb cowboy motherfuckers they put away the better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/19/18 6:55:23 PM #31:	SuperMedz3 posted... Why doesnt he use his white privilege? He did, if he were a black man he'd be going down for murder. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:910819474] in Florida ma... [t:77112466]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperMedz3 posted...</cite> <quote>Why doesnt he use his white privilege?</quote> He did, if he were a black man he'd be going down for murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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