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DestroyedDog
10/19/18 10:35:46 PM
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I love Star Wars and I realize that the two are very different. But sci-fi is interesting and there's a whole wealth of Star Trek stuff to watch. Where does one start? Is it worth it? How about the Original Series?
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nevershine
10/19/18 10:37:07 PM
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I saw a few episodes of the original as a kid, but didnt get into it till TNG
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 10:38:24 PM
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TNG > TOS > TAS> DS9 > JJ Abrams > the rest.
That's all you need to know.
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TightEnd
10/19/18 10:39:58 PM
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Original series, YMMV. The different series are good for their time, but if you aren't into that time frame at all, don't bother. I didn't. The movies, I only ever watched the Picard ones, and I enjoyed them.

However, as a hyuuge SW fan, when I watched the first of the new Trek movies, I found them 100x times better than SW.

Highly encourage you to watch the new treks.
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 10:40:49 PM
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Watch Deep Space 9 last because if you watch it first, you'd think the other shows are pieces of shit
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 10:41:52 PM
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Let's take this in a completely different direction:

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BruceWayneJr
10/19/18 10:44:04 PM
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Watch in order but skip TOS, cherry pick TNG, watch all or most of DS9, cherry pick Voyager and Enterprise.

Films 1, 2, 3, 6, and 8
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 10:50:36 PM
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BruceWayneJr posted...
cherry pick TNG

The first season can be safely skipped. All you'll miss is a Deforest Kelley cameo.
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ColdOne666
10/19/18 10:56:37 PM
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DS9 is the only one worth watching. First 2 out of the new trilogy movies are good, 3rd is boring.
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 10:58:19 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
DS9 is the only one worth watching.

DS9 is slow, ponderous, and completely boring. And that's why it's awesome.

Whatever became of Garak, anyway? I seem to have forgotten.
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DestroyedDog
10/19/18 10:58:47 PM
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Can we avoid spoilers please
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 10:59:51 PM
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DestroyedDog posted...
Can we avoid spoilers please

what spoilers?
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Fossil
10/19/18 11:01:25 PM
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TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.
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DestroyedDog
10/19/18 11:02:38 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
DestroyedDog posted...
Can we avoid spoilers please

what spoilers?

Any spoilers I guess
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 11:04:04 PM
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Fossil posted...
TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.


DS9 is the best show in the series. People associate Breaking Bad season 5, The Wire season 1 and 4, etc. as the best seasons in TV show history. If DS9 were aired within the past 5 years people would say DS9 seasons 3-7 are some of the best TV in history.
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 11:04:29 PM
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DestroyedDog posted...
Any spoilers I guess

Too bad!

James Doohan shows up in an episode of TNG, and it's fucking great.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Relics_(episode)

Complete with a mirror of the "it's green" scene.
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Fossil
10/19/18 11:06:22 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.


DS9 is the best show in the series. People associate Breaking Bad season 5, The Wire season 1 and 4, etc. as the best seasons in TV show history. If DS9 were aired within the past 5 years people would say DS9 seasons 3-7 are some of the best TV in history.

k, good for those people
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 11:08:48 PM
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Fossil posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.


DS9 is the best show in the series. People associate Breaking Bad season 5, The Wire season 1 and 4, etc. as the best seasons in TV show history. If DS9 were aired within the past 5 years people would say DS9 seasons 3-7 are some of the best TV in history.

k, good for those people


Just stick with DS9, watch every episode even the supposedly bad ones (there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9) and you will thank me and millions of other DS9 fans.
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 11:10:58 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
(there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9)

Out of curiosity, which ones?
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Fossil
10/19/18 11:13:46 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.


DS9 is the best show in the series. People associate Breaking Bad season 5, The Wire season 1 and 4, etc. as the best seasons in TV show history. If DS9 were aired within the past 5 years people would say DS9 seasons 3-7 are some of the best TV in history.

k, good for those people


Just stick with DS9, watch every episode even the supposedly bad ones (there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9) and you will thank me and millions of other DS9 fans.

The problem I had with DS9 is the focus on the station itself. There was no "exploration" in that first season I watched and it bored me. Kira's personality annoyed the shit out of me too.
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 11:17:07 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
(there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9)

Out of curiosity, which ones?


I forgot the episode names but that one episode where o brien is supposedly a villages savior and the doctor accompanies him to the village. The village leader dies and then some spooky clouds almost destroy the village and all he gotta say is some random funny ass shit

The other terrible episode is When Molly goes through the portal thing and comes back as a cave woman". that shit is just cringey af
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spudger
10/19/18 11:17:24 PM
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yes

it literally changed my life
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 11:19:55 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
(there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9)

Out of curiosity, which ones?


I forgot the episode names but that one episode where o brien is supposedly a villages savior and the doctor accompanies him to the village. The village leader dies and then some spooky clouds almost destroy the village and all he gotta say is some random funny ass shit

The other terrible episode is When Molly goes through the portal thing and comes back as a cave woman". that shit is just cringey af

Titles, please.

Also I was expecting the one where Bashir turns out to be Khan jr, so it's nice that I'm wrong
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 11:20:52 PM
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Fossil posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.


DS9 is the best show in the series. People associate Breaking Bad season 5, The Wire season 1 and 4, etc. as the best seasons in TV show history. If DS9 were aired within the past 5 years people would say DS9 seasons 3-7 are some of the best TV in history.

k, good for those people


Just stick with DS9, watch every episode even the supposedly bad ones (there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9) and you will thank me and millions of other DS9 fans.

The problem I had with DS9 is the focus on the station itself. There was no "exploration" in that first season I watched and it bored me. Kira's personality annoyed the shit out of me too.


Trust me exploration isn't that big of a deal. DS9 is different than the others because the other shows resets the story after each episode. DS9 is a continuation of story lines, characters, etc. For example the show Cops show something different each episode. Obviously DS9 is gonna need to have something new to show as well as one episode stories but what makes DS9 special and the absolute best show in the series is the character development and development of the story overall. It is the funniest but at the same time most bad ass characters and story.
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kuwab0
10/19/18 11:20:54 PM
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 11:22:55 PM
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kuwab0 posted...
Gul Dukat did nothing wrong

Meanwhile, Garak did everything wrong, apart from being a humble tailor.

(spoiler'd out of paranoia)
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 11:23:28 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
(there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9)

Out of curiosity, which ones?


I forgot the episode names but that one episode where o brien is supposedly a villages savior and the doctor accompanies him to the village. The village leader dies and then some spooky clouds almost destroy the village and all he gotta say is some random funny ass shit

The other terrible episode is When Molly goes through the portal thing and comes back as a cave woman". that shit is just cringey af

Titles, please.

Also I was expecting the one where Bashir turns out to be Khan jr, so it's nice that I'm wrong


First episode I described is The Storyteller. The other one is Time's Orphan
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Oakland510_
10/19/18 11:30:02 PM
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With all this DS9/Star Trek talk I am tempted to rewatch DS9 for the 6th time. I am not exaggerating but seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7 are truly on the same level or even better than the best seasons of Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Wire, Mad Men, and King of Thrones. Seasons 1-3 are also great and has some of the best episodes in TV history. I consider DS9 the original great show.
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Medussa
10/19/18 11:32:03 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
(there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9)

Out of curiosity, which ones?


I forgot the episode names but that one episode where o brien is supposedly a villages savior and the doctor accompanies him to the village. The village leader dies and then some spooky clouds almost destroy the village and all he gotta say is some random funny ass shit

The other terrible episode is When Molly goes through the portal thing and comes back as a cave woman". that shit is just cringey af

Titles, please.

Also I was expecting the one where Bashir turns out to be Khan jr, so it's nice that I'm wrong


First episode I described is The Storyteller. The other one is Time's Orphan


you missed If Wishes Were Horses, Come Along Home, Let He Who is Without Sin..., Paradise, and The Muse.
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Questionmarktarius
10/19/18 11:36:13 PM
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Medussa posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
(there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9)

Out of curiosity, which ones?


I forgot the episode names but that one episode where o brien is supposedly a villages savior and the doctor accompanies him to the village. The village leader dies and then some spooky clouds almost destroy the village and all he gotta say is some random funny ass shit

The other terrible episode is When Molly goes through the portal thing and comes back as a cave woman". that shit is just cringey af

Titles, please.

Also I was expecting the one where Bashir turns out to be Khan jr, so it's nice that I'm wrong


First episode I described is The Storyteller. The other one is Time's Orphan


you missed If Wishes Were Horses, Come Along Home, Let He Who is Without Sin..., Paradise, and The Muse.

DS9 is just weird that way. It's either really really good, or absolutely goddamn terrible, with the only real middle ground being Quark or O'Brien episodes.
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Fossil
10/19/18 11:37:23 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
Oakland510_ posted...
Fossil posted...
TNG and Voyager are both excellent. I'm currently on Season 2 of Enterprise and enjoy it so far. I got halfway into Season 1 of DS9 before getting bored of it, but plan to give it another go in the future.

All TNG movies are good, imo.


DS9 is the best show in the series. People associate Breaking Bad season 5, The Wire season 1 and 4, etc. as the best seasons in TV show history. If DS9 were aired within the past 5 years people would say DS9 seasons 3-7 are some of the best TV in history.

k, good for those people


Just stick with DS9, watch every episode even the supposedly bad ones (there is only 2 terrible ass episodes in DS9) and you will thank me and millions of other DS9 fans.

The problem I had with DS9 is the focus on the station itself. There was no "exploration" in that first season I watched and it bored me. Kira's personality annoyed the shit out of me too.


Trust me exploration isn't that big of a deal. DS9 is different than the others because the other shows resets the story after each episode. DS9 is a continuation of story lines, characters, etc. For example the show Cops show something different each episode. Obviously DS9 is gonna need to have something new to show as well as one episode stories but what makes DS9 special and the absolute best show in the series is the character development and development of the story overall. It is the funniest but at the same time most bad ass characters and story.

Exploration is the reason I love the Star Trek series in the first place. I disagree with your viewpoint of the other shows "resetting" after every episode. That's the whole point of exporation, every episode is bound to be different and I'm completely ok with it. It's not like the story was null and void, it just continued at a different pace. Also, I think it's safe to say character development isn't as important to me as it is to you.
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Oakland510_
10/20/18 11:35:31 PM
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Oakland510_ posted...
With all this DS9/Star Trek talk I am tempted to rewatch DS9 for the 6th time. I am not exaggerating but seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7 are truly on the same level or even better than the best seasons of Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Wire, Mad Men, and King of Thrones. Seasons 1-3 are also great and has some of the best episodes in TV history. I consider DS9 the original great show.
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