Board 8 > Monster Mafia: The Rebootening Topic 5 - From this, the mind may never recover.

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benjamin3740 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Benji, we lynch Chris and he flips scum prosty.

Whats your next move after that?

Kill the F out of FD. Chris came in today to rescue him. It's either genuine or it's not

And this is one of the reasons I prefer lynching you or FD over Chris. Tells more
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benjamin3740 posted...

So i guess Sheep was just supposed to be a huge trap for the flavor cop? A miller basically?

I thought maybe Godfather. Scans as Town, Flavor is human... but goal is to summon Cthuhlu, which is a monster... but the way Sheep just claimed made me pretty positive he's just Town.

It makes me want claims from Red and MZero. At the very least flavor claims, since were supposed to take "wants to kill witches" at face value from two unclaimed players.
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So if Chris flips scum

One of me and fd are scum

And if Chris flips tosn

One of me and fd are scum?

But if I flip town?

But if fd flips town?

Please clarify this.

If you are going to mislynch me I want to be sure you aren't going to then tank us Benji.
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If Chris flips scum, FD is probably scum.

If Chris flips town, you and FD could be scum but I would also consider Red and Mzero more. Right now they havent claimed yet

If you flip town, Chris and FD are likely scum candidates

If FD flips town, it's a crapshoot but I think you or Chris is still one of the scum.

I think Sbell and Chris ARE NOT scum together. Otherwise why does Chris get off FD and go for Sbell.
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I don't think we can rule out Chris and SBell being scum together. Chris is not averse to bussing. You could easily say the same about Pirate.
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Ben I like your style. Anyway Sheep stop voting me let's go on an adventure. Red stop voting fd
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Not sure in the slightest what people are doing but FD is literally claimed scum here.

Sheep007 posted...

I don't think we can rule out Chris and SBell being scum together. Chris is not averse to bussing. You could easily say the same about Pirate.

Sbell has also been on Chris' butt all game

But besides that, it just seems like a very bad move at this level of the game. If Chris and Sbell are the only scum, then scum's best chance is still Sbell. Chris and him would have to make sure Sbell doesnt die today, because Chris cannot make it all the way to final 3 and not be lynched. Same can be said for an FD/Chris scum team, which is why I'm still very likely to vote FD or Chris at the end of the day!
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benjamin3740 posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I don't think we can rule out Chris and SBell being scum together. Chris is not averse to bussing. You could easily say the same about Pirate.

Sbell has also been on Chris' butt all game

But besides that, it just seems like a very bad move at this level of the game. If Chris and Sbell are the only scum, then scum's best chance is still Sbell. Chris and him would have to make sure Sbell doesnt die today, because Chris cannot make it all the way to final 3 and not be lynched. Same can be said for an FD/Chris scum team, which is why I'm still very likely to vote FD or Chris at the end of the day!

:(
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Leafeon13N posted...

Not sure in the slightest what people are doing but FD is literally claimed scum here.

Do scum do that these days. Just claim it for you?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I don't think we can rule out Chris and SBell being scum together. Chris is not averse to bussing. You could easily say the same about Pirate.

Sbell has also been on Chris' butt all game

But besides that, it just seems like a very bad move at this level of the game. If Chris and Sbell are the only scum, then scum's best chance is still Sbell. Chris and him would have to make sure Sbell doesnt die today, because Chris cannot make it all the way to final 3 and not be lynched. Same can be said for an FD/Chris scum team, which is why I'm still very likely to vote FD or Chris at the end of the day!

:(

Chris for you to be Town here AND right about FD, it does basically make Sbell HAVE to be scum, in my mind. So it's going to come down to who I trust more by the end of the day.
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benjamin3740 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I don't think we can rule out Chris and SBell being scum together. Chris is not averse to bussing. You could easily say the same about Pirate.

Sbell has also been on Chris' butt all game

But besides that, it just seems like a very bad move at this level of the game. If Chris and Sbell are the only scum, then scum's best chance is still Sbell. Chris and him would have to make sure Sbell doesnt die today, because Chris cannot make it all the way to final 3 and not be lynched. Same can be said for an FD/Chris scum team, which is why I'm still very likely to vote FD or Chris at the end of the day!

:(

Chris for you to be Town here AND right about FD, it does basically make Sbell HAVE to be scum, in my mind. So it's going to come down to who I trust more by the end of the day.

Then let's build some trust. I will be driving a lot but I am all yours ben. Hit me with questions. I agree with your assessment.
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Why do you always have nothing to say about Sheep/Han? Recently you said you weren't paying much attention to them. But given Sheep has been possibly scanned twice, there should be a stance there
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Sheep being scanned twice is the reason. He's either godfather or town so I haven't really needed to think on him too much. As for han today is pretty telling. He shielded shell from ne day 1 and attacked fd saying I was in it with him. At best that makes him quite misguided. Surprised you didn't ask me about mzero either. That last little group hasn't caught my eye too much this game in general.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Do scum do that these days. Just claim it for you?

Yes.

Hell end of last game I'm pretty sure i talked about the amount of times i claim real flavor or something like that.

Well I asked about those two because of how they claim to be directly linked in their flavor, and that Han calls Sheep definitely Town now because of it.

Otherwise I understand not focusing much on certain players, like in the case of Mzero.

And you said Han's actions today have been pretty telling. Is that suspicion?
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Maybe my willingness to bus as scum blinds me to how other people play, I dunno, but I really don't think SBell and Chris being at each other's throats is a sign they can't both be scum. I don't expect Chris would allow himself to be bussed however, and I also don't think he would kill SBell because him soloing is very unlikely.
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You misread.
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Han's claim does not clear him for me. There's been a lot of "clearing" this game because of flavour meta, and several days in scum can easily claim to be something that matches up with another flavour, if it's on the safelist. I feel decent about Han, but not completely sold just yet.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

You misread.

Well I saw of course that you said they were telling, but then said it could be from misguided town. Which doesnt sound very telling
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benjamin3740 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

You misread.

Well I saw of course that you said they were telling, but then said it could be from misguided town. Which doesnt sound very telling

Han's actions day 1 and and the results from sbell vs fd

It shifts han's scum probability.
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Sheep007 posted...

Han's claim does not clear him for me. There's been a lot of "clearing" this game because of flavour meta, and several days in scum can easily claim to be something that matches up with another flavour, if it's on the safelist. I feel decent about Han, but not completely sold just yet.

I think I just like his thought processes the whole game. For example recently when he wondered if you (Sheep) were Godfather/scum, but instead town cleared you based on that response. It fits with him wanting Sbell and FD to tell him if they were vanilla or not. I think Han is showing that he has a role similar to yours that has a long name but is just vanilla. The fact that you claimed what he had made him feel good about you
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Now this whole Red/Mzero witch hunting thing is a lot less definitive and I'm worried one of them is trying to pull something
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I feel good about Red. Not so much on MZero. Haven't liked him all game but didn't really have time to press it D2. Due to him hammering.
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So what's everyone thinking? Stay the course on FD, or do what Chris wants and lynch Sbell?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Obellisk posted...

If I get lynched because town power took over the game from the first post and I was just lowly vanilla with little to add and then we lose and scum wins another fucking game I'm town in... I'm just so fed up with how town plays these games.

Literal scum staring them in the face, yet they let them slide. Time and time again.

Fucking idiotic.

Town power has done nothing if note. Pirate imploded himself. I slept with town. Flavor cop scanned someone alive. Like what.

Politely disagree. Pirate imploded because I got him back to topic and my line of questioning he finally couldn't keep up with so I at least lead to that
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Uh... Corrik did nothing but be Corrik and masons have been active but they didnt do anything power wise but troll me.

Corrik scanned sheep
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benjamin3740 posted...

So what's everyone thinking? Stay the course on FD, or do what Chris wants and lynch Sbell?

No offense, but this is the stupidest thing I've read all game.
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Obellisk posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

So what's everyone thinking? Stay the course on FD, or do what Chris wants and lynch Sbell?

No offense, but this is the stupidest thing I've read all game.

Huh? I'm asking everyone else. Not trying to convince myself of anything.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Obellisk posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

So what's everyone thinking? Stay the course on FD, or do what Chris wants and lynch Sbell?

No offense, but this is the stupidest thing I've read all game.

Huh? I'm asking everyone else. Not trying to convince myself of anything.

The stupid part is asking people if we should do what Chris wants.

Obv scum Chris....

I am flabbergasted that we've come to this.

I guess next game I'll have to just lie all game so that town will believe me.

Sad day for board 8.
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Obellisk posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Obellisk posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

So what's everyone thinking? Stay the course on FD, or do what Chris wants and lynch Sbell?

No offense, but this is the stupidest thing I've read all game.

Huh? I'm asking everyone else. Not trying to convince myself of anything.

The stupid part is asking people if we should do what Chris wants.

Obv scum Chris....

I am flabbergasted that we've come to this.

I guess next game I'll have to just lie all game so that town will believe me.

Sad day for board 8.

It's just a classic ask stupid questions get stupid answers method!
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##vote: fd
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ScareChan posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Uh... Corrik did nothing but be Corrik and masons have been active but they didnt do anything power wise but troll me.

Corrik scanned sheep

Scare the context of this was that power from post 1 made a difference and made it so Sbell didn't feel like he could act or something. I wasn't talking on the whole!

Anyway I tend to be suspected a lot as town moreso than scum for some reason. Like whenever I am scum people turn a blind eye, I think it is because I am less weird as scum, while as town I tend to move quickly through progressive thoughts.

Look at the end of the day you guys have one of the best town hunters in the entire world asking you not to kill FD. Just like last game I asked the game not to kill IGCD. My reputation speaks for itself in my ability to defend town. I don't know how anyone can look at Sbell's game and weakness therein and see the proud town lion that just tried to go toe to toe with me.
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ScareChan posted...

##vote: fd

Fuck. COME on Scare.
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FD [4] - Miz, Chris, (Scare), (Ben), Red, Scare
Chris [2] - Sbell, (Ben), Sheep
Sbell [2] - Chris, Ben
Miz [0] - (Sbell),

Day ends Tuesday Oct. 23 at 8pm MST, 8hours 9mins.

With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch.
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Double voter Chris confirmed.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

ScareChan posted...

##vote: fd

Fuck. COME on Scare.

No

I am a man of many talents.
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Come on Red. Surely you do not believe FD is so stupid that he'd claim his real flavor. FD is like, really sneaky scum. Sometimes he tries to go too crazy (lawyer stuff in my game) but he is super thoughtful. Why do people always assume that scum is just going to be so stupid or me. That's like the two options. Scum is stupid or scum is me. There is no in between <_<
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Okay look, I know I am super scary. OK. I get that. But just ignore who is saying, and think about this. Does lynching someone who a component of their lynch being "they claimed their real scum role" make any sense to anyone? I know he has done other things that look really bad, I saw them too, but at a certain point isn't there just a little bit too much? Is there no room for the fact that we have misunderstood? The claim is so sick to come from scum. It's so sick. It should only take one beautifully town thing to disqualify someone from being lynched. The unforced, totally out there claim that would suggest that FD literally, with no pressure, claimed his scum role.

I have never, in my almost 20 years of playing mafia, seen that happen. Unforced to claim their own scum flavor where flavor split was obvious. Not forced error. Not panic. Just ... oh btw, I'm scum guys.

I think we're committing an unforced error by lynching FD here over Sbell. I think we have a choice. It's a toughie because FD is a silly boy, but it is a choice. What's to like about Sbell's game? Look at how we've argued today. I have beaten the shit out of him. Am I the only one who has an accurate score card ringside to the beating I've dished out? Am I just so caught up in myself that I don't realize I have made an erroneous argument?
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Chris, on day 1 when people were voting FD near the end of the day I remember you said "Plz not FD" and voted Pirate

Why did you go from town reading him to not to back again?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Unforced to claim their own scum flavor where flavor split was obvious.

Flavor split is obvious. And it very clearly says witches = scum.

Hell, even the syntax matches.

FD thought he was being clever.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

FD is like, really sneaky scum.

Read my above line.

##Vote: red

Occam's razor
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And i think we need to drop that he claimed his real role being a component of FD's lynch, unless Red or Mzero disagree with that.
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That said, I'll dispute obvious a bit because in my world the high priest is almost always evil.

If I'm playing a game and a character is a high priest I'm assuming we are going to kill them.

I'm not voting fd for his claim I'm voting him for his play not lining up with town fd

" I was a vanilla so I didnt want to keep a claims list because I was sad"

Like I expect vanilla fd to make one even more to be on top of shit because that's all he has

The credit thing from day 1 was odd and went on way too long

The public claims list when he had no time was very useless to town

You say the witches claim is bad for scum fd, it can still be a fake claim. The witch hunt stuff did not come until after he claimed witches.

I just have not seen fd di anything pro town and that's not like him
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Red "hey let's not claim but btw my flavor confirms fd is scum lul"

Leafeon13N posted...

Not sure in the slightest what people are doing but FD is literally claimed scum here.

This is so fucking lazy.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

##Vote: red

Occam's razor

No
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

##Vote: red

Occam's razor

Han what the fuck is wrong with you. The simplest answer is literally FD is scum. Don't fucking misuse occams.