Current Events > Dear transgender activists: please post how sex is not determined by chromosomes

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BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:23:13 PM #1:	Ive seen this idiotic viewpoint being pushed by radicals now and Im wondering how they could even begin to justify it. Remember a few years ago when you all said: hey were talking about GENDER, not sex. Of course the biological sex doesnt change, but socially, gender is whats important. Now suddenly the SEX chromosomes dont determine SEX, and instead a mutated gene is more important. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162005] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>Ive seen this idiotic viewpoint being pushed by radicals now and Im wondering how they could even begin to justify it. Remember a few years ago when you all said: hey were talking about GENDER, not sex. Of course the biological sex doesnt change, but socially, gender is whats important. Now suddenly the SEX chromosomes dont determine SEX, and instead a mutated gene is more important.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Carlbertomfg 10/25/18 6:24:22 PM #2:	You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO --- TOPIC CRUSHER <cite>Carlbertomfg posted [p:911162058] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 10/25/18 6:24:55 PM #3:	Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| ESO: @Ultima_Vyse RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/99 FISH/99 Cook <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:911162088] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><quote>Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:25:04 PM #4:	Carlbertomfg posted... You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO So male, then? <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162099] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Carlbertomfg posted...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> So male, then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Carlbertomfg 10/25/18 6:25:27 PM #5:	BestOfTheBest posted... Carlbertomfg posted... You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO So male, then? You can mail deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO --- TOPIC CRUSHER <cite>Carlbertomfg posted [p:911162118] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Carlbertomfg posted...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> So male, then?</quote> You can mail deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 10/25/18 6:26:59 PM #6:	if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him. --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:911162193] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:27:35 PM #7:	Dark_SilverX posted... if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him. Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man? <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162227] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him.</quote> Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 10/25/18 6:27:48 PM #8:	I dont see anyone claiming sex is not determined by chromosomes. I do, however, see people saying GENDER isnt determined by them. Hormone Therapy and Sex Reassignment Surgery simply changes the body to match the gender inside ^_^ --- King K. Rool supporter for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:911162240] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>I dont see anyone claiming sex is not determined by chromosomes. I do, however, see people saying GENDER isnt determined by them. Hormone Therapy and Sex Reassignment Surgery simply changes the body to match the gender inside ^_^</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 6:28:14 PM #9:	What do sex chromosomes have to do with being transgender? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911162280] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>What do sex chromosomes have to do with being transgender?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 10/25/18 6:28:15 PM #10:	BestOfTheBest posted... Dark_SilverX posted... if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him. Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man? The biological differences between men and women result from two processes: sex determination and differentiation.(3) The biological process of sex determination controls whether the male or female sexual differentiation pathway will be followed. The process of biological sex differentiation (development of a given sex) involves many genetically regulated, hierarchical developmental steps. More than 95% of the Y chromosome is male-specific (4) and a single copy of the Y chromosome is able to induce testicular differentiation of the embryonic gonad. The Y chromosome acts as a dominant inducer of male phenotype and individuals having four X chromosomes and one Y chromosome (49XXXXY) are phenotypically male. (5) When a Y chromosome is present, early embryonic testes develop around the 10th week of pregnancy. In the absence of both a Y chromosome and the influence of a testis-determining factor (TDF), ovaries develop. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| ESO: @Ultima_Vyse RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/99 FISH/99 Cook <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:911162282] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him.</quote> Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man?</quote> <quote>The biological differences between men and women result from two processes: sex determination and differentiation.(3) The biological process of sex determination controls whether the male or female sexual differentiation pathway will be followed. The process of biological sex differentiation (development of a given sex) involves many genetically regulated, hierarchical developmental steps. More than 95% of the Y chromosome is male-specific (4) and a single copy of the Y chromosome is able to induce testicular differentiation of the embryonic gonad. The Y chromosome acts as a dominant inducer of male phenotype and individuals having four X chromosomes and one Y chromosome (49XXXXY) are phenotypically male. (5) When a Y chromosome is present, early embryonic testes develop around the 10th week of pregnancy. In the absence of both a Y chromosome and the influence of a testis-determining factor (TDF), ovaries develop.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FairyLeviathan 10/25/18 6:28:49 PM #12:	muh feels <cite>FairyLeviathan posted [p:911162314] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>muh feels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 10/25/18 6:30:26 PM #13:	Let's see what a professor emerita in biology from Brown has to say: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/opinion/sex-biology-binary.html --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:911162403] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>Let's see what a professor emerita in biology from Brown has to say: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/opinion/sex-biology-binary.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 10/25/18 6:31:25 PM #14:	Carlbertomfg posted... You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO Got em --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:911162463] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Carlbertomfg posted...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> Got em</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 10/25/18 6:31:41 PM #15:	Carlbertomfg posted... You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO LOL gottem --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyUV1eyETtc <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:911162481] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Carlbertomfg posted...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> LOL gottem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 6:32:05 PM #16:	BestOfTheBest posted... Dark_SilverX posted... if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him. Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man? Are they really biologically a man if they were born trans? Clearly their chromosomes are telling a more complicated picture of their biology. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911162516] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him.</quote> Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man?</quote> Are they really biologically a man if they were born trans? Clearly their chromosomes are telling a more complicated picture of their biology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/25/18 6:32:19 PM #17:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Reductase_deficiency Genetic disorder where you're born looking like a girl but suddenly grow a penis when you hit puberty. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:911162537] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Reductase_deficiency Genetic disorder where you're born looking like a girl but suddenly grow a penis when you hit puberty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:32:34 PM #18:	hockeybub89 posted... What do sex chromosomes have to do with being transgender? People are claiming that being trans means that your sex is the opposite too. Im asking why? Duncanwii posted... I dont see anyone claiming sex is not determined by chromosomes. I do, however, see people saying GENDER isnt determined by them. Hormone Therapy and Sex Reassignment Surgery simply changes the body to match the gender inside ^_^ Except radicals do claim this. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162554] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>What do sex chromosomes have to do with being transgender?</quote> People are claiming that being trans means that your sex is the opposite too. Im asking why? <cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see anyone claiming sex is not determined by chromosomes. I do, however, see people saying GENDER isnt determined by them. Hormone Therapy and Sex Reassignment Surgery simply changes the body to match the gender inside ^_^</quote> Except radicals do claim this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:33:31 PM #19:	Hexenherz posted... BestOfTheBest posted... Dark_SilverX posted... if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him. Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man? The biological differences between men and women result from two processes: sex determination and differentiation.(3) The biological process of sex determination controls whether the male or female sexual differentiation pathway will be followed. The process of biological sex differentiation (development of a given sex) involves many genetically regulated, hierarchical developmental steps. More than 95% of the Y chromosome is male-specific (4) and a single copy of the Y chromosome is able to induce testicular differentiation of the embryonic gonad. The Y chromosome acts as a dominant inducer of male phenotype and individuals having four X chromosomes and one Y chromosome (49XXXXY) are phenotypically male. (5) When a Y chromosome is present, early embryonic testes develop around the 10th week of pregnancy. In the absence of both a Y chromosome and the influence of a testis-determining factor (TDF), ovaries develop. So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162614] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him.</quote> Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man?</quote> <quote>The biological differences between men and women result from two processes: sex determination and differentiation.(3) The biological process of sex determination controls whether the male or female sexual differentiation pathway will be followed. The process of biological sex differentiation (development of a given sex) involves many genetically regulated, hierarchical developmental steps. More than 95% of the Y chromosome is male-specific (4) and a single copy of the Y chromosome is able to induce testicular differentiation of the embryonic gonad. The Y chromosome acts as a dominant inducer of male phenotype and individuals having four X chromosomes and one Y chromosome (49XXXXY) are phenotypically male. (5) When a Y chromosome is present, early embryonic testes develop around the 10th week of pregnancy. In the absence of both a Y chromosome and the influence of a testis-determining factor (TDF), ovaries develop.</quote></quote> So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 6:34:54 PM #20:	BestOfTheBest posted... People are claiming that being trans means that your sex is the opposite too. Im asking why? Which people are claiming this? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911162691] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>People are claiming that being trans means that your sex is the opposite too. Im asking why?</quote> Which people are claiming this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:35:05 PM #21:	hockeybub89 posted... BestOfTheBest posted... Dark_SilverX posted... if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him. Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man? Are they really biologically a man if they were born trans? Clearly their chromosomes are telling a more complicated picture of their biology. They are a man as that is the definition of man (XY). Tyranthraxus posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Reductase_deficiency Genetic disorder where you're born looking like a girl but suddenly grow a penis when you hit puberty. So they were a eunuch before? Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162706] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>if he wants to be a woman and use the women's restroom then let him.</quote> Ok, but how does that change the fact that biologically, he is a man?</quote> Are they really biologically a man if they were born trans? Clearly their chromosomes are telling a more complicated picture of their biology.</quote> They are a man as that is the definition of man (XY). <cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Reductase_deficiency Genetic disorder where you're born looking like a girl but suddenly grow a penis when you hit puberty.</quote> So they were a eunuch before? Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:38:23 PM #22:	scar the 1 posted... Let's see what a professor emerita in biology from Brown has to say: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/opinion/sex-biology-binary.html Opinion article that talks about intersex people. How does this relate to normal transgenders? <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911162878] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Let's see what a professor emerita in biology from Brown has to say: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/opinion/sex-biology-binary.html</quote> Opinion article that talks about intersex people. How does this relate to normal transgenders?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 6:40:41 PM #23:	BestOfTheBest posted... So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male. It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911163026] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male.</quote> It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 10/25/18 6:40:56 PM #24:	No one says this... Nuh uh radicals do so explain!!!! --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:911163039] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>No one says this... Nuh uh radicals do so explain!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banana_Cyanide 10/25/18 6:42:21 PM #25:	Hexenherz posted... Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex. Does any of this result in any kind of complications like genetic illnesses or sterility? --- Who knew bananas could be so lethal? Proud member of The Church of The Man-Emperor of Mankind. <cite>Banana_Cyanide posted [p:911163113] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.</quote></quote> Does any of this result in any kind of complications like genetic illnesses or sterility?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 10/25/18 6:42:36 PM #26:	why the hell do you care so much --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:911163126] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>why the hell do you care so much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:43:51 PM #27:	hockeybub89 posted... BestOfTheBest posted... So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male. It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you. The 22 other chromosomes determine the rest of your body. The sex chromosomes determine sex. I agree that we are far more than our genetalia, but our sex isnt. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911163202] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male.</quote> It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you.</quote> The 22 other chromosomes determine the rest of your body. The sex chromosomes determine sex. I agree that we are far more than our genetalia, but our sex isnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:44:49 PM #28:	Banana_Cyanide posted... Hexenherz posted... Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex. Does any of this result in any kind of complications like genetic illnesses or sterility? The majority of them do. Kleinfelters is XXY and those men are shorter, less intelligent, and sterile. XYY are taller, with no noticeable defects. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911163251] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Cyanide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.</quote></quote> Does any of this result in any kind of complications like genetic illnesses or sterility?</quote> The majority of them do. Kleinfelters is XXY and those men are shorter, less intelligent, and sterile. XYY are taller, with no noticeable defects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 6:45:52 PM #29:	XXX shouldnt have an effect because only 1 X chromosome is active at a time. XO gives you an increased predisposition to recessive disorders. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911163311] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>XXX shouldnt have an effect because only 1 X chromosome is active at a time. XO gives you an increased predisposition to recessive disorders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 10/25/18 6:47:08 PM #30:	people should be able to dress and be whoever they are. but biology is biology. if i bleach my hair i am not actually blond. --- Female body inspector and motorboating enthusiast. <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:911163385] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>people should be able to dress and be whoever they are. but biology is biology. if i bleach my hair i am not actually blond.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 10/25/18 6:47:22 PM #31:	Basically there's an incredibly tiny group of people who are intersex that are incredibly rare and not well understood medically and completely different than being trans and the entire LGBTQ movement is using their unusual bodies to promote a completely unrelated agenda. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:911163400] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>Basically there's an incredibly tiny group of people who are intersex that are incredibly rare and not well understood medically and completely different than being trans and the entire LGBTQ movement is using their unusual bodies to promote a completely unrelated agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 6:49:30 PM #32:	BestOfTheBest posted... hockeybub89 posted... BestOfTheBest posted... So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male. It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you. The 22 other chromosomes determine the rest of your body. The sex chromosomes determine sex. I agree that we are far more than our genetalia, but our sex isnt. Then what is this topic? You want people to explain why there are radical idiots confusing sex with gender? I don't know honestly. Maybe they are just super triggered and overreact when they hear people use the sex chromsome argument to downplay trans people. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911163517] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male.</quote> It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you.</quote> The 22 other chromosomes determine the rest of your body. The sex chromosomes determine sex. I agree that we are far more than our genetalia, but our sex isnt.</quote> Then what is this topic? You want people to explain why there are radical idiots confusing sex with gender? I don't know honestly. Maybe they are just super triggered and overreact when they hear people use the sex chromsome argument to downplay trans people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/25/18 6:51:13 PM #33:	rikasa posted... incredibly tiny group of people who are intersex that are incredibly rare rikasa posted... entire LGBTQ movement is using their unusual bodies to promote a completely unrelated agenda. Interesting how you go from very specific to very broad. Almost like you have an agenda. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:911163622] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>incredibly tiny group of people who are intersex that are incredibly rare</quote> <cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>entire LGBTQ movement is using their unusual bodies to promote a completely unrelated agenda.</quote> Interesting how you go from very specific to very broad. Almost like you have an agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 10/25/18 6:53:28 PM #34:	You're right, I think a lot of L's and G's don't make that awful argument. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:911163754] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>You're right, I think a lot of L's and G's don't make that awful argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unimpressed 10/25/18 6:54:17 PM #35:	HeyJohnHothlin taking L after L in his own topic --- By Whining <cite>Unimpressed posted [p:911163795] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>HeyJohnHothlin taking L after L in his own topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 10/25/18 6:56:04 PM #36:	Hexenherz posted... Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex. I love the dodging from using an actual number. But even that disingenuous vocabulary manipulation, thats still just a mutation, not a new gender. If someone is born with an extra arm theyre not a new species, its just an abnormality. So, no, regardless of whatever Buzzfeed/Vox or - wherever you got your nonsense from - when 99.99% of the world is either XX or XY there isnt a range if .00~1% dont fit within the binary options. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:911163909] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.</quote></quote> I love the dodging from using an actual number. But even that disingenuous vocabulary manipulation, thats still just a mutation, not a new gender. If someone is born with an extra arm theyre not a new species, its just an abnormality. So, no, regardless of whatever Buzzfeed/Vox or - wherever you got your nonsense from - when 99.99% of the world is either XX or XY there isnt a range if .00~1% dont fit within the binary options.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 10/25/18 6:58:22 PM #37:	BestOfTheBest posted... Opinion article that talks about intersex people. How does this relate to normal transgenders? You're really a fucking tool aren't you --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:911164045] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>Opinion article that talks about intersex people. How does this relate to normal transgenders? </quote> You're really a fucking tool aren't you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 10/25/18 6:59:25 PM #38:	See, they just get so mad if you point out how they're taking advantage of an already extremely marginalized group for their unrelated arguments. I really hate these people tbh. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:911164108] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>See, they just get so mad if you point out how they're taking advantage of an already extremely marginalized group for their unrelated arguments. I really hate these people tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banana_Cyanide 10/25/18 7:03:14 PM #39:	Nomadic View posted... I love the dodging from using an actual number. But even that disingenuous vocabulary manipulation, thats still just a mutation, not a new gender. If someone is born with an extra arm theyre not a new species, its just an abnormality. That's part of why I asked if they resulted in illnesses and sterility because for all this talk of new genders most if not all of them are an evolutionary dead end doomed to die out and only exist in the first place because of mutations from the only 2 genders capable of evolution. --- Who knew bananas could be so lethal? Proud member of The Church of The Man-Emperor of Mankind. <cite>Banana_Cyanide posted [p:911164341] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>I love the dodging from using an actual number. But even that disingenuous vocabulary manipulation, thats still just a mutation, not a new gender. If someone is born with an extra arm theyre not a new species, its just an abnormality.</quote> That's part of why I asked if they resulted in illnesses and sterility because for all this talk of new genders most if not all of them are an evolutionary dead end doomed to die out and only exist in the first place because of mutations from the only 2 genders capable of evolution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/25/18 7:28:59 PM #40:	BestOfTheBest posted... Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. No you're not. You asked an ignorant question about chromosomes that you know fuck all about and are backpedaling. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:911165737] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. </quote> No you're not. You asked an ignorant question about chromosomes that you know fuck all about and are backpedaling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proto_Spark 10/25/18 7:35:40 PM #41:	BestOfTheBest posted... Banana_Cyanide posted... Hexenherz posted... Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex. Does any of this result in any kind of complications like genetic illnesses or sterility? The majority of them do. Kleinfelters is XXY and those men are shorter, less intelligent, and sterile. XYY are taller, with no noticeable defects. Basically, having additional X chromosomes can be pretty bad, but having additional Y chromosomes should be fine. There were weird studies that predicted that extra Y chromosomes may lead to more "aggressive" individuals, but there's no actual proof of that. <cite>Proto_Spark posted [p:911166122] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banana_Cyanide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex.</quote></quote> Does any of this result in any kind of complications like genetic illnesses or sterility?</quote> The majority of them do. Kleinfelters is XXY and those men are shorter, less intelligent, and sterile. XYY are taller, with no noticeable defects.</quote> Basically, having additional X chromosomes can be pretty bad, but having additional Y chromosomes should be fine. There were weird studies that predicted that extra Y chromosomes may lead to more "aggressive" individuals, but there's no actual proof of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 7:43:40 PM #42:	hockeybub89 posted... BestOfTheBest posted... hockeybub89 posted... BestOfTheBest posted... So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male. It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you. The 22 other chromosomes determine the rest of your body. The sex chromosomes determine sex. I agree that we are far more than our genetalia, but our sex isnt. Then what is this topic? You want people to explain why there are radical idiots confusing sex with gender? I don't know honestly. Maybe they are just super triggered and overreact when they hear people use the sex chromsome argument to downplay trans people. Yes, that is exactly it. I want to understand their disingenuity <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911166565] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>So... exactly my point? Having a Y chromosome means you are a male.</quote> It means you are born with testes. There are 22 other pairs of chromosomes determining the rest you besides sex and that can include being transgender. Biologically speaking, we are far more than one pair of chromosomes and our traditional social classification of what genitals that pair gives you.</quote> The 22 other chromosomes determine the rest of your body. The sex chromosomes determine sex. I agree that we are far more than our genetalia, but our sex isnt.</quote> Then what is this topic? You want people to explain why there are radical idiots confusing sex with gender? I don't know honestly. Maybe they are just super triggered and overreact when they hear people use the sex chromsome argument to downplay trans people.</quote> Yes, that is exactly it. I want to understand their disingenuity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 7:45:35 PM #43:	Tyranthraxus posted... BestOfTheBest posted... Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. No you're not. You asked an ignorant question about chromosomes that you know fuck all about and are backpedaling. No. What I posted was exactly the argument I was talking about. If you misunderstood the point of this topic, that is on you. <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911166665] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. </quote> No you're not. You asked an ignorant question about chromosomes that you know fuck all about and are backpedaling.</quote> No. What I posted was exactly the argument I was talking about. If you misunderstood the point of this topic, that is on you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unimpressed 10/25/18 7:46:47 PM #44:	Why are people still feeding HeyJohnHothlin? --- By Whining <cite>Unimpressed posted [p:911166733] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>Why are people still feeding HeyJohnHothlin?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 7:47:08 PM #45:	Unimpressed posted... Why are people still feeding HeyJohnHothlin? A) whos that B) who are you <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911166748] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unimpressed posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people still feeding HeyJohnHothlin?</quote> A) whos that B) who are you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 10/25/18 7:51:31 PM #46:	I don't care. I identify as female. I live my life as female. That's all there is to it. If we whined about the chromosomes, we'd ALL be suicidal. I'm happy and as long as I can live as a female, I don't care what naysayers say. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:911167002] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote>I don't care. I identify as female. I live my life as female. That's all there is to it. If we whined about the chromosomes, we'd ALL be suicidal. I'm happy and as long as I can live as a female, I don't care what naysayers say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 10/25/18 7:52:03 PM #47:	Carlbertomfg posted... You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO Got eem --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider https://i.imgtc.com/0EE5xDd.jpg <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:911167034] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Carlbertomfg posted...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> Got eem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/25/18 7:52:52 PM #48:	BestOfTheBest posted... Tyranthraxus posted... BestOfTheBest posted... Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. No you're not. You asked an ignorant question about chromosomes that you know fuck all about and are backpedaling. No. What I posted was exactly the argument I was talking about. If you misunderstood the point of this topic, that is on you. How about you determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:911167090] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BestOfTheBest posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless, this is not what transgenders are and their supporters are claiming. Im talking about the normal transgender. </quote> No you're not. You asked an ignorant question about chromosomes that you know fuck all about and are backpedaling.</quote> No. What I posted was exactly the argument I was talking about. If you misunderstood the point of this topic, that is on you.</quote> How about you determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BestOfTheBest 10/25/18 7:53:46 PM #49:	Sayoria posted... I don't care. I identify as female. I live my life as female. That's all there is to it. If we whined about the chromosomes, we'd ALL be suicidal. I'm happy and as long as I can live as a female, I don't care what naysayers say. Ok, but can you see that biologically, you are male? <cite>BestOfTheBest posted [p:911167148] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>I don't care. I identify as female. I live my life as female. That's all there is to it. If we whined about the chromosomes, we'd ALL be suicidal. I'm happy and as long as I can live as a female, I don't care what naysayers say.</quote> Ok, but can you see that biologically, you are male?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jonestown 10/25/18 7:56:59 PM #50:	Carlbertomfg posted... You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO what if deez nuts identify as deez Vs tho? --- Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it: https://youtu.be/VWqACvTknls https://youtu.be/KKvvOFIHs4k <cite>Jonestown posted [p:911167338] in Dear trans... [t:77132156]...</cite> <quote><cite>Carlbertomfg posted...</cite> <quote>You can determine deez NUTS ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOO</quote> what if deez nuts identify as deez Vs tho?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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