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hotcegaI
10/27/18 1:08:02 PM
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I never understood this before
they're radicals, not the average supporter so if anything shouldn't you be condemning them too
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Menardii
10/27/18 1:09:44 PM
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*accept

But I agree. Fuck extremists from any side
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Villain
10/27/18 1:10:43 PM
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I agree that extremism is bad regardless of the side, but there's a clear difference in the current climate:

Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2017:

Heather Heyer
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html

Taliesin Namkai Meche
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/max_stabbing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo

Ricky Best
http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/

Richard Collins III
https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/

Timothy Caughman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman

Srinivas Kuchibhotla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting

Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-mexico-school-shooter-had-secret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites

Charles Davis
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/alt-righter-seattle4truth-charged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories

Officer Zackari Parrish
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html

Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-charged-with-killing-girlfriends-parents-they-had-worried-he-was-a-neo-nazi/2017/12/23/e2102894-e761-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29

Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
These victims are Canadian but the killer follows the ideology of the alt right

Americans killed by Antifa in 2017:

Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2018:

Blaze Bernstein
https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372

The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting:
Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg,
Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty,
Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:
Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins,
Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/18/612286146/shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston

Sherell L. Lewis Jr
https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/

The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting
Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters
https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-annapolis-shooter-jarrod-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/

Maurice Stallard & Vickie Lee Jones
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-kroger-gunman-uttered-whites-don-t-kill-whites-witness-n924641

Americans killed by Antifa in 2018:
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/27/18 1:11:11 PM
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Republicans have no issue with violence. They endorse it.
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hotcegaI
10/27/18 1:13:10 PM
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It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/27/18 1:15:25 PM
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hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.
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hotcegaI
10/27/18 1:30:57 PM
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I'm not saying both sides do bad thibgsm
I'm saying that most people on either side recognise that idiots exist but when it comes to idiots acting and claiming its for your side people defend them. It's weird
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ColdOne666
10/28/18 5:03:47 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


1 insane person isn't indicative of the whole right. Otherwise the left would all be pedophiles.
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ssjevot
10/28/18 5:18:25 AM
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Nice collection of stats here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/08/21/which-ideology-has-inspired-the-most-murders-in-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil/

tl;dr: You are ten times more likely to be killed by a right wing extemist than a left wing extremist. And that is separating radical Islamists into another category. If we put them in with the right you would be over 100 times more likely to be killed by a radical right wing terrorist.
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/28/18 5:37:22 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting
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Mr_Rian
10/28/18 5:49:38 AM
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

But...he didn't kill anyone.

If this post was just about a garbage leftist, sure, you showed him. But that wasn't a left-wing extremist murderer. Attempted, no doubt. But he failed.
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CableZL
10/28/18 5:54:44 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


1 insane person isn't indicative of the whole right. Otherwise the left would all be pedophiles.

I don't think pedophilia is the point you want to bring to the "both sides" table with the Catholic Church child molestation scandal going on for centuries at the very least.
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Mr_Rian
10/28/18 5:55:21 AM
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CableZL posted...
CableZL posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


1 insane person isn't indicative of the whole right. Otherwise the left would all be pedophiles.

I don't think pedophilia is the point you want to bring to the "booth sides" table with the Catholic Church child molestation scandal going on for centuries at the very least.

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Mr_Rian
10/28/18 5:55:33 AM
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Mr_Rian posted...
CableZL posted...
CableZL posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


1 insane person isn't indicative of the whole right. Otherwise the left would all be pedophiles.

I don't think pedophilia is the point you want to bring to the "booth sides" table with the Catholic Church child molestation scandal going on for centuries at the very least.

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CableZL
10/28/18 5:56:11 AM
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Mr_Rian
10/28/18 5:56:40 AM
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You really believe in what you say.
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asagi_mode_gone
10/28/18 5:57:49 AM
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I'd make the argument that it's the centrists who try and appease both sides who are the bigger issue. They're the ones who have given ground for literal neo Nazis to openly advocate for genocide because "free speech" but they don't defend the free speech of those who seek to prevent neo Nazis from ever getting into a position of power through which they can get closer and closer to that end goal.
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/28/18 6:00:15 AM
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Mr_Rian posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

But...he didn't kill anyone.

If this post was just about a garbage leftist, sure, you showed him. But that wasn't a left-wing extremist murderer. Attempted, no doubt. But he failed.


He tried to murder someone(and failed) and he was a left wing extremist. I'm merely pointing out your statement "one fucking side" is factually and easy to prove wrong.
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CableZL
10/28/18 6:02:00 AM
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Mr_Rian posted...
You really believe in what you say.

LOL, it was a Tribble sequence of events

Make post
Post it
See typos
Edit post
- Probably hit quote instead of edit
Corrected post that quoted myself
Original post still fucked up
Hit edit
Accidentally tapped on an ad
Closed that tab
Come back to see the mess

I need more sleep
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snowman9267
10/28/18 6:03:43 AM
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Left extremists just sort of embarrass themselves, right wing extremists endanger others and also murder people. Rather feel some cringe at some sjw loon's opinion blog than have to throw myself on the ground behind some shelves at the mall because an unstable Trumpet decided today was the day his AR-15 was going to see some real action.
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/28/18 6:07:13 AM
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snowman9267 posted...
Left extremists just sort of embarrass themselves, right wing extremists endanger others and also murder people. Rather feel some cringe at some sjw loon's opinion blog than have to throw myself on the ground behind some shelves at the mall because an unstable Trumpet decided today was the day his AR-15 was going to see some real action.


Ugh, no. It endangers and murders just like every other groups extremists:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_terrorism

People just like to turn blind eyes to the extremists in their own group and make excuses as we saw with Rian above.
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Mr_Rian
10/28/18 6:08:42 AM
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
He tried to murder someone(and failed) and he was a left wing extremist. I'm merely pointing out your statement "one fucking side" is factually and easy to prove wrong.

It wasn't my statement, and he still didn't kill anyone. I don't doubt the extremist on the left have murdered someone. You just didn't prove it with an incident were the left literally didn't murder someone.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/28/18 6:12:28 AM
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Both sides are crap... but I can't feel how Liberal extremists want to make places like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore or the likes where a 100 or so are killed yearly and are fine about it.
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myzz7
10/28/18 6:13:38 AM
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if your side is right and you accept ideas on principle and won't compromise those principles, you're thought of as a dangerous extremist and that's stupid.
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/28/18 8:54:44 PM
#26:


B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Mr_Rian posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

But...he didn't kill anyone.

If this post was just about a garbage leftist, sure, you showed him. But that wasn't a left-wing extremist murderer. Attempted, no doubt. But he failed.


He tried to murder someone(and failed) and he was a left wing extremist. I'm merely pointing out your statement "one fucking side" is factually and easy to prove wrong.


Bullshit, right wing violence is a plague that happens every month.
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B0xxY2J0sHBK_
10/28/18 8:59:42 PM
#27:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
Mr_Rian posted...
B0xxY2J0sHBK_ posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
hotcegaI posted...
It doesn't matter what side it is
Also Neo-Nazis*.

The point is when a bunch of Liberal radicals do dumb stuff it's ignored by liberals as idiots goin idiot.
why can't the right do the same


Fuck this both sides bullshit.

Its the right murdering people. One fucking side.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

But...he didn't kill anyone.

If this post was just about a garbage leftist, sure, you showed him. But that wasn't a left-wing extremist murderer. Attempted, no doubt. But he failed.


He tried to murder someone(and failed) and he was a left wing extremist. I'm merely pointing out your statement "one fucking side" is factually and easy to prove wrong.


Bullshit, right wing violence is a plague that happens every month.


That's factually wrong.
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