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-Bhunivelze-
10/28/18 4:29:20 AM
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Give me arguments that prove Noahs Ark didnt actually happen
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MabusIncarnate
10/28/18 4:31:08 AM
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There's something like 17 billion species of animal, and putting 34 billion animals on a boat (One male and one female) would require the boat to be a few thousand miles long.
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spikethedevil
10/28/18 4:31:53 AM
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The predators would have eaten the prey animals.
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ReginaldClovis
10/28/18 4:33:28 AM
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Your aunt is probably one of those types who won't be swayed by any measure of logic and reasoning. It's best not to bother.
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Roxborough4Ever
10/28/18 4:34:01 AM
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im not certain if they say it was just him and his family on the boat but wouldn't he need a crew to sail the boat and take care of the men? how did they feed them for x years at sea?
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ReginaldClovis
10/28/18 4:35:36 AM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
im not certain if they say it was just him and his family on the boat but wouldn't he need a crew to sail the boat and take care of the men? how did they feed them for x years at sea?


It was only a little over a month.

Edit: Well, it was actually a few months since it took a while for the waters to subside.
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Airhammy
10/28/18 4:36:50 AM
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DocileOrangeCup
10/28/18 4:37:25 AM
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southcoast09
10/28/18 4:38:30 AM
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Evidence suggests that it does exist. All of the worlds major religions also refer to the great flood, so there is already reason enough to historically support the story.

Tbh, if you are trying to disprove Christianity, it seems like you chose the wrong topic.

Also, the Titanic was a luxury ship which had massive ballrooms, gymnasiums, onboard swimming pools, dining halls, and theaters. Not to mention every passenger had a massive room.

Noahs Ark was not billed as a luxury cruise and it was assumed that it was probably a tight fit.
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Guide
10/28/18 4:45:27 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Evidence suggests that it does exist. All of the worlds major religions also refer to the great flood, so there is already reason enough to historically support the story.

Tbh, if you are trying to disprove Christianity, it seems like you chose the wrong topic.


Almost every ancient society in floodlands or near large bodies of water has a great flood story, all throughout history.

It also doesn't make sense to say that because great floods exist, this boat must also exist.
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-Bhunivelze-
10/28/18 4:47:35 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
There's something like 17 billion species of animal, and putting 34 billion animals on a boat (One male and one female) would require the boat to be a few thousand miles long.


I used that on my aunt already. Her response?

Nooooo! There werent that many animals and insects dont count.
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-Bhunivelze-
10/28/18 4:48:01 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
The predators would have eaten the prey animals.


I used that on my aunt already. Her response?

God made sure the animals behaved
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Guide
10/28/18 4:49:24 AM
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-Bhunivelze- posted...
spikethedevil posted...
The predators would have eaten the prey animals.


I used that on my aunt already. Her response?

God made sure the animals behaved


On a fundamental level, you can't actually reason with her. "Because god" is a defiance of logic in and of itself, a subtle but direct example of the principle of explosion.
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UnfairRepresent
10/28/18 4:49:40 AM
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Well "God did it" is a response, nothing you say can change her mind
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ProfessorKukui
10/28/18 4:58:14 AM
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But why?
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do_ob_tpkillr
10/28/18 4:58:17 AM
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Or maybe you should reevaluate yourself first. What did your aunt do that affected you so negatively that you must interfere with her right to freedom of religion?
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-Bhunivelze-
10/28/18 5:01:17 AM
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Or maybe you should reevaluate yourself first. What did your aunt do that affected you so negatively that you must interfere with her right to freedom of religion?


She tells me Im going to hell, I look like a poof, my mom doesnt raise me right etc
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Twin3Turbo
10/28/18 5:07:28 AM
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-Bhunivelze- posted...
do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Or maybe you should reevaluate yourself first. What did your aunt do that affected you so negatively that you must interfere with her right to freedom of religion?


She tells me Im going to hell, I look like a poof, my mom doesnt raise me right etc

Watch him still try to make you out to be the bad guy
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UnholyMudcrab
10/28/18 5:10:50 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/28/18 5:21:02 AM
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ReginaldClovis posted...
Your aunt is probably one of those types who won't be swayed by any measure of logic and reasoning. It's best not to bother.

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do_ob_tpkillr
10/28/18 5:26:49 AM
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Tbh I was about to say "fair enough", then suggest that TC just stay away from his aunt because it requires less effort. But whatever.
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Foppe
10/28/18 5:30:17 AM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Airhammy posted...
8torCDG

man he was good at managing space

God was so happy to finally find somebody that did what he asked, so he turned it into a tardis.
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Lord_Wombat
10/28/18 5:40:21 AM
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While I agree the story is bullshit, if you lack the knowledge to disprove her you really aren't in a position where you should be trying tbh
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Foppe
10/28/18 5:43:24 AM
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Go read the Book of Job and then ask her how she can support a God that hangs around with the devil and ruins the life of a faithful follower just to win a bet against the devil.
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Turbam
10/28/18 5:45:57 AM
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Is your aunt cute?
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lob_city_3
10/28/18 6:00:35 AM
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Wtf is a poof?
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asagi_mode_gone
10/28/18 6:00:55 AM
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The sheer amount of animals, certain ones requiring habitats to live that wouldn't allow them to live on a boat or in captivity in general given the zoological understanding and expertise at the time, the sheer variety and amount of food necessary to feed them, the space they would require to physically occupy the ark not being possible with the Biblical dimensions (much less being able to move around), oh and the fact that 2 of every animal would require he traveled the world over to actually do that literally.
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spikethedevil
10/28/18 6:01:48 AM
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lob_city_3 posted...
Wtf is a poof?


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poof
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bossjony
10/28/18 6:16:28 AM
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U can't she's right tc.
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ColdOne666
10/28/18 6:18:35 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Evidence suggests that it does exist. All of the worlds major religions also refer to the great flood, so there is already reason enough to historically support the story.

Tbh, if you are trying to disprove Christianity, it seems like you chose the wrong topic.

Also, the Titanic was a luxury ship which had massive ballrooms, gymnasiums, onboard swimming pools, dining halls, and theaters. Not to mention every passenger had a massive room.

Noahs Ark was not billed as a luxury cruise and it was assumed that it was probably a tight fit.


Is this some extremely bad trolling attempt.
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SaithSayer
10/28/18 6:18:49 AM
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-Bhunivelze- posted...
Give me arguments that prove Noahs Ark didnt actually happen

Life can be rough. If believing in ridiculously stupid shit makes your stay on this spinning rock go down a little more easily, then fuck it....just so long as they aren't making laws or teaching it in classrooms.

What do you stand to gain by taking away someone's faith?
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fuzzylittlbunny
10/28/18 6:27:38 AM
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You can't disprove her; she's right. A wizard did it
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SaithSayer
10/28/18 6:28:41 AM
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...
You can't disprove her; she's right. Meteors did it!
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Lord_Wombat
10/28/18 6:30:50 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
southcoast09 posted...
Evidence suggests that it does exist. All of the worlds major religions also refer to the great flood, so there is already reason enough to historically support the story.

Tbh, if you are trying to disprove Christianity, it seems like you chose the wrong topic.

Also, the Titanic was a luxury ship which had massive ballrooms, gymnasiums, onboard swimming pools, dining halls, and theaters. Not to mention every passenger had a massive room.

Noahs Ark was not billed as a luxury cruise and it was assumed that it was probably a tight fit.


Is this some extremely bad trolling attempt.

Was it really that bad of an attempt of you took the bait?
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mvillanueva88
10/28/18 6:32:11 AM
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-Bhunivelze- posted...
Give me arguments that prove Noahs Ark didnt actually happen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_um69RqBpSw" data-time="

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mvillanueva88
10/28/18 6:33:32 AM
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-Bhunivelze- posted...
do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Or maybe you should reevaluate yourself first. What did your aunt do that affected you so negatively that you must interfere with her right to freedom of religion?


She tells me Im going to hell, I look like a poof, my mom doesnt raise me right etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgj65-EfmoA" data-time="

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AngelSeven
10/28/18 6:57:51 AM
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There is no such thing as disproving anything in religion. Religion is based on faith, not concrete facts or logic.
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Lord_Wombat
10/28/18 7:08:29 AM
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AngelSeven posted...
There is no such thing as disproving anything in religion. Religion is based on faith, not concrete facts or logic.

Except he's debating whether a "historical" event happened or not, which has nothing to do with faith...
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AlisLandale
10/28/18 7:15:21 AM
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Lord_Wombat posted...
AngelSeven posted...
There is no such thing as disproving anything in religion. Religion is based on faith, not concrete facts or logic.

Except he's debating whether a "historical" event happened or not, which has nothing to do with faith...


A historical event that depends on the existence of God.

Noahs ark only happens if God exists. If God exists, theres all sorts of explanations for how it couldve been possible.

If God doesnt exist, then thered be no guy foreseeing a world-flood and getting a bunch of animals on an ark, in which case why are you even having the discussion?
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SSJCAT
10/28/18 7:16:16 AM
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why hasnt anyone said that only 2 of each species is not viable for repopulation lol

oh wait but adam and eve did it

so were all just incest babies.
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pikachupwnage
10/28/18 7:18:26 AM
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Foppe posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
Airhammy posted...
8torCDG

man he was good at managing space

God was so happy to finally find somebody that did what he asked, so he turned it into a tardis.


Really a tardis explanation makes sense if you accept god exists.
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AlisLandale
10/28/18 7:19:35 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Foppe posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
Airhammy posted...
8torCDG

man he was good at managing space

God was so happy to finally find somebody that did what he asked, so he turned it into a tardis.


Really a tardis explanation makes sense if you accept god exists.


I mean Jesus fed thousands of people with some bread and fish.
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zombiexdeathx
10/28/18 7:19:47 AM
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there was a goodish film a few years ago about the arc ... cant no remeber who did it tho
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Dragonblade01
10/28/18 7:22:37 AM
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You're approaching this the wrong way. If she cares about whether the things she believes are true or not, then she has to provide sufficient reason why she believes something is true. If she can't she should throw away the belief.
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Lord_Wombat
10/28/18 7:23:35 AM
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@AlisLandale posted...
A historical event that depends on the existence of God.

Not necessarily. People claim/claimed to do things because "they were told to by God" for forever. Both good and bad examples, everything from charity work to murder (such as Abraham). It doeant mean its true, and in fact it shows the exact opposite.

AlisLandale posted...
Noahs ark only happens if God exists. If God exists, theres all sorts of explanations for how it couldve been possible.

There are explanations to the contrary as well. This is like saying the "10 plagues" could have happened only if god existed, even though it's been scientifically proven that even if it did happen, it wasn't due to divine powers.

AlisLandale posted...
If God doesnt exist, then thered be no guy foreseeing a world-flood and getting a bunch of animals on an ark, in which case why are you even having the discussion?

Not sure what you mean here...

Don't get me wrong, idgaf what anyone believes, and I'm not arguing to be a dick, but I find the debate itself fascinating and it's so hard to find people that can argue for religion logically instead of "nope, I'm right because faith".
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SaithSayer
10/28/18 7:24:02 AM
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Let old people think they're going to heaven. God damn.
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catboy0_0
10/28/18 7:26:38 AM
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mvillanueva88 posted...
-Bhunivelze- posted...
do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Or maybe you should reevaluate yourself first. What did your aunt do that affected you so negatively that you must interfere with her right to freedom of religion?


She tells me Im going to hell, I look like a poof, my mom doesnt raise me right etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgj65-EfmoA" data-time="

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Cocytus
10/28/18 7:27:05 AM
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Why is it important for you to disprove her? Doesn't she have a right to believe in what she wants to believe?
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RoboLaserGandhi
10/28/18 7:28:48 AM
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Tell her:

There isn't even enough water on the Earth to completely flood it to begin with ( https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2013/09/rising-seas-ice-melt-new-shoreline-maps/ )

It's impossible to propagate a species from only a single mating pair

The task of acquiring two of every land animal on the entire planet and fitting them on a single ark is a task akin to Santa Clause going to every Christian child's house in one night and storing all of those toys in a single bag

It was clearly an embellished story of a major but localised flood and Noah probably saved like, a farm
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catboy0_0
10/28/18 7:32:25 AM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
There isn't even enough water on the Earth to completely flood it to begin with

there are some theories that the earth used to be surrounded by a huge water bubble thing that caused greenhouse like effects
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