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mitsuruji gun
10/28/18 11:21:52 AM
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In recent (maybe more) months there has been a rash of crime that springs out in America as political. You got the MAGAbomber and the Synagogue that was hit from people identified as far-right. However on the news (foxnews) they keep blaming the left (not just far-left) for these crimes.

My question to you all is why does the right keep blaming things on the left when it's clearly the far-right that's doing this?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/28/18 11:24:10 AM
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The right hates the idea of taking responsibility for their own actions.
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mitsuruji gun
10/28/18 1:42:20 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The right hates the idea of taking responsibility for their own actions.


I would agree with that.
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asagi_mode_gone
10/28/18 1:53:15 PM
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When bad things happen to Republicans it's the left.

When bad thing happen to the left, it's their divine punishment.

Remember that every hurricane season and nearly every wildfire season has Christians say it's because God is punishing us for gay people. And they blame wildfire season on the left in recent years.
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southcoast09
10/28/18 1:55:06 PM
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The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 1:55:51 PM
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When a muslim does something bad the right blames all muslims

When an immigrant does something bad the right blames all immigrants

When a person on the left does something bad the right blames the entire left

When a person on the right does something bad the right blames the entire left
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HashtagTartarus
10/28/18 1:56:17 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?


Tell me again how many terrorist attacks the left is responsible for?
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
10/28/18 1:57:31 PM
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Ironically, the synagogue shooter didn't think Trump was far enough to the right.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/28/18 1:58:11 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobody?s saying those people you mentioned aren?t pieces of shit, but let?s get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just don?t like to talk about it.

Why not?


Because we don't spread fake news
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HashtagTartarus
10/28/18 1:58:38 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
HashtagTartarus posted...
southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?


Tell me again how many terrorist attacks the left is responsible for?

yea i agree let's just let him change the conversation like that


Change it how? By not answering?
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Broseph_Stalin
10/28/18 1:58:45 PM
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mitsuruji gun posted...
My question to you all is why does the right keep blaming things on the left when it's clearly the far-right that's doing this?

Conservatism can not be defended with reason.
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RoboLaserGandhi
10/28/18 2:00:14 PM
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Oh boy more "your side is wrong mine is exempt from hypocrisy".
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UnfairRepresent
10/28/18 2:00:43 PM
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People pick a side and then blame the other side for everything

It's stupid but it's what happens.

A madman shooting up a place isn't the mythical "Right" or "Left"'s fault. There are serious complex issues in society.

But if you've decided the left is evil, then it's CNN and liberals fault for a fake media narrative invoking people to be scared and violent while good people don't defend themelves.

And if you've decided the right is evil, then it's Trump and Fox and coservatives fault for "Their rhetoric" invoking people to be scared and violent while good people don't defend themselves.

And if you're intelligent and middle ground, both sides ignore you and then you get shot
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 2:01:49 PM
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Oh boy Unfair is here. The plot thins
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Gafemage
10/28/18 2:02:35 PM
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Maybe were all just hypocrites.
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Ving_Rhames
10/28/18 2:05:22 PM
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The party of personal accountability and responsibility.
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asagi_mode_gone
10/28/18 2:07:12 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
People pick a side and then blame the other side for everything

It's stupid but it's what happens.

A madman shooting up a place isn't the mythical "Right" or "Left"'s fault. There are serious complex issues in society.

But if you've decided the left is evil, then it's CNN and liberals fault for a fake media narrative invoking people to be scared and violent while good people don't defend themelves.

And if you've decided the right is evil, then it's Trump and Fox and coservatives fault for "Their rhetoric" invoking people to be scared and violent while good people don't defend themselves.

And if you're intelligent and middle ground, both sides ignore you and then you get shot


The middle ground

Aka

"Let's find common ground between (women/ racial minorities/ LGBT/ disabled/ the poor) and people who want to strip them of their rights and/ or lives"
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The Great Muta 22
10/28/18 2:07:15 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

And if you're intelligent and middle ground


Hope that's not how you view yourself lmao
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/28/18 2:08:05 PM
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Gafemage posted...
we?re all just hypocrites.


Bingo
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southcoast09
10/28/18 2:08:14 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobody?s saying those people you mentioned aren?t pieces of shit, but let?s get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just don?t like to talk about it.

Why not?


Because we don't spread fake news

XD

This is one for the books.
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HashtagTartarus
10/28/18 2:10:54 PM
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southcoast09 posted...

This is one for the books.


Do you even know what a book is?
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 2:13:18 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
This is one for the books.

I mean there's a reason most fake news targets those on the right.

There was an interview I think a year or so ago with some dude who worked for one of those troll farms that comes up with this shit adn he said back in 2016 they tried making fake news for leftist sites but they never really took off.

Usually someone would post it, people would talk about it, someone would quickly point out it wasn't real, and everyone would move on and forget about it.

The guy said they stopped trying after a while and focused solely on the right instead

probs because for the right feels > reals
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UnfairRepresent
10/28/18 2:18:42 PM
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asagi_mode_gone posted...


The middle ground

Aka

"Let's find common ground between (women/ racial minorities/ LGBT/ disabled/ the poor) and people who want to strip them of their rights and/ or lives"

If you say so.

That's part of the simple mindedness I was mentioning. "The Conservatives oppose equal rights. Therefore they are the wrong side and everything bad is there fault." feels cathartic to say but doesn't actually mean anything.

southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?

This actually is not true.

Conservatives are represented to a much larger degree in violent crime, sexual crime and domestic terrorism.

I can't quite remember the figures but I do remember they were pretty astonshing in some cases. Among Politicians themselves it was something like you were 24 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by a Conservative Politician than a liberal one.

This isn't as surprisingly as it might instantly appear as conservatives tend to be more extrovert and vocal/aggressive people as a generalization and liberals tend to be more passive and introvert.

More importantly, they tend to be more religious and religion is always hand in hand with violence.

But it's still the case that if someone decks you in the face in a bar, odds are that they are more likely to be conservative than liberal if you're a gambling man
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 2:20:00 PM
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God damn and here's Unfair again lol
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SageHarpuia
10/28/18 2:20:15 PM
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This is not just an issue with the right.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/28/18 2:21:04 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
southcoast09 posted...
This is one for the books.

I mean there's a reason most fake news targets those on the right.

There was an interview I think a year or so ago with some dude who worked for one of those troll farms that comes up with this shit adn he said back in 2016 they tried making fake news for leftist sites but they never really took off.

Usually someone would post it, people would talk about it, someone would quickly point out it wasn't real, and everyone would move on and forget about it.

The guy said they stopped trying after a while and focused solely on the right instead

probs because for the right feels > reals


@southcoast09 just got rekt
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ScazarMeltex
10/28/18 2:23:50 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?

Actual facts disagree with you.
https://www.splcenter.org/20180723/terror-right

And this
zUrcbjd
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Raikuro
10/28/18 2:47:37 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
This is not just an issue with the right.

When someone on the left does wrong the left actually calls them out for it. And the right still tries to spin it as a bad thing by calling it cannibalism.
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Prestoff
10/28/18 2:51:06 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I can't quite remember the figures but I do remember they were pretty astonshing in some cases. Among Politicians themselves it was something like you were 24 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by a Conservative Politician than a liberal one.


Would you happen to have any source for this? I'm genuinely curious.
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Ving_Rhames
10/28/18 2:53:43 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Actual facts disagree with you.


He's a slurper lol, actual facts don't mean anything to him.
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The Great Muta 22
10/28/18 2:58:27 PM
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The only arguments that the right has about "ANGRY LEFTIST VIOLENCE!" is shit like Antifa and BLM, and they cling to events like the Berkeley fights from 2 years ago and the Ferguson/Baltimore riots from, what, 5 years ago now? They cling to "BIKE LOCK SWING ANTIFA!" events while ignoring the real fact that other literal neo nazis who were at those same events just got arrested within the last month, one specifically as he was trying to flee to Mexico.

Frankly it reeks of anger and desperation where they wish they had more events to point to, which is disgusting.
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averagejoel
10/28/18 3:26:48 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
southcoast09 posted...
This is one for the books.

I mean there's a reason most fake news targets those on the right.

There was an interview I think a year or so ago with some dude who worked for one of those troll farms that comes up with this shit adn he said back in 2016 they tried making fake news for leftist sites but they never really took off.

Usually someone would post it, people would talk about it, someone would quickly point out it wasn't real, and everyone would move on and forget about it.

The guy said they stopped trying after a while and focused solely on the right instead

probs because for the right feels > reals

huh

do you remember where you heard/read/watched this interview?
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CADE FOSTER
10/28/18 3:29:05 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?

Actual facts disagree with you.
https://www.splcenter.org/20180723/terror-right

And this
zUrcbjd

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HashtagTartarus
10/28/18 3:32:14 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
southcoast09 posted...
The volume of crime coming from both sides is much higher from the left. Nobodys saying those people you mentioned arent pieces of shit, but lets get the facts straight, here. The left has been committing political crimes and violence since before the primary elections in 2016 and you guys just dont like to talk about it.

Why not?

Actual facts disagree with you.
https://www.splcenter.org/20180723/terror-right

And this
zUrcbjd


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10/28/18 3:39:56 PM
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TiamatLover
10/28/18 3:47:47 PM
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Neither side is very good at taking responsibility for the actions of their extremists. Arguably, they shouldn't have to outright take responsibility, but both aren't even good at acknowledging that there are bad people on their own side.

Remember the shootings at that BLM rally by one of the participants a while back? The way the left reacted to that is exactly the same as how the right is reacting to MAGABomber.
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CADE FOSTER
10/28/18 3:52:21 PM
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Right is super evil and never excepts blame they are acting like terrorists and we have a presidents thats ok with that
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Antifar
10/28/18 3:58:48 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
Remember the shootings at that BLM rally by one of the participants a while back? The way the left reacted to that is exactly the same as how the right is reacting to MAGABomber.

There were far fewer claims of it being a false flag
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The Great Muta 22
10/28/18 4:01:49 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
Remember the shootings at that BLM rally by one of the participants a while back? The way the left reacted to that is exactly the same as how the right is reacting to MAGABomber.


You mean the one in Dallas that the guilty fucker claimed he didn't support BLM because they weren't extreme enough? I suppose he does have some parallel to the Pittsburgh psycho
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southcoast09
10/28/18 4:05:14 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Doom_Art posted...
southcoast09 posted...
This is one for the books.

I mean there's a reason most fake news targets those on the right.

There was an interview I think a year or so ago with some dude who worked for one of those troll farms that comes up with this shit adn he said back in 2016 they tried making fake news for leftist sites but they never really took off.

Usually someone would post it, people would talk about it, someone would quickly point out it wasn't real, and everyone would move on and forget about it.

The guy said they stopped trying after a while and focused solely on the right instead

probs because for the right feels > reals


@southcoast09 just got rekt

Yeahhhhhh, no. Its a pretty well known thing that the modern fake news wave started with the left and theyre 95% responsible for lies and misinformation being spread.

Just like those news stories about cops. They tell us the cop murdered somebody in a fit or racist rage. Then the facts come to light in court and we see the stuff the liberal fake news media didnt want us to know. Anybody with an average intelligence can see this, but I think my words are lost on you two.
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 4:07:30 PM
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Well golly gee ya sure won me over, southy
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Vertania
10/28/18 4:08:10 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Oh boy more "your side is wrong mine is exempt from hypocrisy".
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southcoast09
10/28/18 4:13:14 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Well golly gee ya sure won me over, southy

The media is the unspoken fourth branch of our government. Dont argue, but you know its true.

Within a months time, your party stands to have 0/3 of power in the official branches. Obviously you guys are doubling down on the media thing.

Dont you remember the Donald Trump golden shower story? Trump supporters 100% made that up and then submitted it to multiple liberal news networks. They published it before they even read through it, and this was a devastating blow that essentially proved their lack of ethics and willingness to make things up. Needless to say, multiple people were fired because of this.
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 4:17:28 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Within a months time, your party stands to have 0/3 of power in the official branches.

wut

southcoast09 posted...
Trump supporters 100% made that up and then submitted it to multiple liberal news networks.

Well golly gee 4chan claimed they made it up so I guess that's that then lol
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Antifar
10/28/18 4:17:51 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Dont you remember the Donald Trump golden shower story? Trump supporters 100% made that up and then submitted it to multiple liberal news networks. They published it before they even read through it, and this was a devastating blow that essentially proved their lack of ethics and willingness to make things up. Needless to say, multiple people were fired because of this.

[Citation needed]
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ALLCAPSNOSPACES
10/28/18 4:19:23 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Well golly gee ya sure won me over, southy

The media is the unspoken fourth branch of our government. Dont argue, but you know its true.

Within a months time, your party stands to have 0/3 of power in the official branches. Obviously you guys are doubling down on the media thing.

Dont you remember the Donald Trump golden shower story? Trump supporters 100% made that up and then submitted it to multiple liberal news networks. They published it before they even read through it, and this was a devastating blow that essentially proved their lack of ethics and willingness to make things up. Needless to say, multiple people were fired because of this.

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averagejoel
10/28/18 4:19:55 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
Neither side is very good at taking responsibility for the actions of their extremists. Arguably, they shouldn't have to outright take responsibility, but both aren't even good at acknowledging that there are bad people on their own side.

"we should kill the jews and brown people" vs "we should stop them from killing jews and brown people"
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The Great Muta 22
10/28/18 4:32:51 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Well golly gee ya sure won me over, southy

The media is the unspoken fourth branch of our government. Dont argue, but you know its true.

Within a months time, your party stands to have 0/3 of power in the official branches. Obviously you guys are doubling down on the media thing.

Dont you remember the Donald Trump golden shower story? Trump supporters 100% made that up and then submitted it to multiple liberal news networks. They published it before they even read through it, and this was a devastating blow that essentially proved their lack of ethics and willingness to make things up. Needless to say, multiple people were fired because of this.


Literally none of what you said is true. Just because /pol/ makes a claim doesn't make it true. Furthermore why are you supporting a website that embraces anti semitism literally a day after a serial killer shot up a Synagogue? Especially as he was someone who quoted /pol/ on his Gab? You really want to be associated with those people?
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