Current Events > The Grinch Leak is looking more real by the day and GameXplain is in cuckmode

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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:14:03 PM
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Andre apparently went on resetera (the cuckold capital of the internet) to call anyone who believed the Grinch leak a "Trump Supporter" saying that this leak is alternative facts or some shit.

Jon from GameXplain went on Twitter to say that that theory that Isaac was cut from September Direct is insensitive and if you entertain this theory you are sick because people died in that earth quake.

Then the one video they made on the leak, was done by Derrick where he compiled all this "evidence" "proving" that the leak is debunked, confirmed fake. He said it was blurry. He said that the Banjo art in the banner was pulled from some twitter user (when you would have to be completely brain dead to make this argument, Kazooie isn't even in a similar pose, Banjo's shape doesn't line up) and some terrible argument about shadows.

The fact that all these cuckies are making such a hard stance against the leak, saying you are a racist, insensitive, a redhat for believing this leak and using obviously dogshit evidence to disprove the leak

and the general lack of coverage of the leak

makes it just seem all the more credible.

GameXplain may have gotten instruction from Nintendo to not cover the leak or to make people doubt it.

All I know is if the Grinch leak turns out to be true, then GameXplain is dead to me.
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Sexypwnstar
10/28/18 8:15:22 PM
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Doom_Art
10/28/18 8:16:18 PM
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what the fuck are you talking about
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refmon
10/28/18 8:19:21 PM
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Whats gamexplain
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Turtlebread
10/28/18 8:19:59 PM
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Bishop9800
10/28/18 8:20:17 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
what the fuck are you talking about

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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:23:50 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
fucking speak English


The Grinch leak is a smashbros leak where a french guy at a printing company took a picture of the final Smash Bros Ultimate boxart.

The box art had Geno, Banjo Kazooie, Isaac, Ken, Shadow, Mach Rider, and Chorus Kids on it

In the background of the picture (well it's actually a still from a snapchat post) was printing material from the upcoming Dreamworks Grinch movie. The promotional Grinch art has never been seen before and looks to be 100% real. Also people have found video of tours of this printing factory and they have literally found the room in which the snapchat was taken.

So what we know for sure, is that the picture was actually taken at a legit printing company by an employee.

Also, the art itself in the leak is incredibly hard to fake.
They drew original art for all the new characters, moved all the current characters around the banner, have printing material never seen such as the original background for the "Everyone is here" banner.
The leaked material itself is extremely hard to fake and looks legit. Even if you disregard that it was taken in a printing factory likely printing the boxes for the game.

Every single character one of those characters has had their copyright renewed in the past few months.
I'm serious Geno, Banjo, Isaac, Mach Rider etc all have had their copyrights renewed in September 218 etc

Not to mention, Sakurai literally met with Microsoft at E3.

I mean every character makes total sense with the information that we have. I'll go into detail in the next post.
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YellowSUV
10/28/18 8:27:38 PM
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The Grinch confirmed Smash newcomer?
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:27:56 PM
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Geno has topped fan polls and Sakurai has been trying to put him in since Melee. Unfortunately, the company that owns him never gave him the rights. However, all that changed when a certain character was added to Smash 4. Unfortunately, this agreement was at the end of development for Smash 4 DLC, so Sakurai likely had no time to also add this character as DLC. Instead he added them as a Mii Costume. Note that ever game Sakurai has tried to include this character. There was even a data-mined song of his in Brawl that was unused because of licensing. Well now they likely have the license, the copyright was renewed last month, it's a fan favorite character, it had a mii costume, and they are finally adding characters like Ridley, K Rool etc to the game (character that were wanted since melee.) Also many, many leakers with insider info have stated that a character from this company would be added to the game. So him being added is consistent with the other leakers.
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Frolex
10/28/18 8:28:20 PM
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Zikten
10/28/18 8:29:39 PM
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I thought this was just a leak about smash brothers. how are they getting racism from this? sounds like gamexplain is insane
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:30:25 PM
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Banjo Kazooe has also topped fan polls. Before E3, Phil Spencer, the VP at Microsoft tweeted that he wanted this character in the game. Then at E3, Nintendo met with Phil Spencer and Microsoft. Also, keep in mind that Nintendo and Microsoft are on good terms. Minecraft is on Nintendo systems and fortnite has crossplatform play between Xbox and Switch. Microsoft likely no longer sees Nintendo has a direct competitor. Now his license has been renewed and his name has appeared on some Nintendo websites.
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On_The_Edge
10/28/18 8:31:52 PM
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lmao that gamexplain behavior is so weird
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The_Scarecrow
10/28/18 8:33:25 PM
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Based Milkman5. Dont listen to the uninitiated here calling you crazy.
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Awesome
10/28/18 8:34:07 PM
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not even surprising, those people are democratic cultists
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:34:16 PM
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Chorus Kids were in the Gematsu leak. Every single character from the Gematsu leak except this character has been included in Smash Bros. There was also a datamine that found files for this character in Smash 4. Also the series they are from had a new logo that was datamined as well.

It's likely they were cut from Smash 4 due to 3DS limitations as this character would be similar to Ice Climbers. Seeing as this limitation no longer exists for Ultimate, seeing as this character was actually worked on for Smash 4, and that this series has no representation makes it likely that this character would be in Ultimate.
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FarFromFields
10/28/18 8:34:47 PM
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What does this have to do Trump or racism or earth quakes though?
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:37:41 PM
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Mach Rider is a perfect wild card wtf retro character for Smash 4. Every single smash game since Melee has added a wtf retro character like this one. Melee had Game n Watch, Brawl had Rob, and Smash 4 had Duck Hunt Dog. What's especially interesting about this character is that Sakurai himself has discussed that he considering adding this character in past games. This character has also had a trophy in every game, has had music representation, and most recently... Sakurai bought a figure that looks just like this character and posted it on twitter. People predicted this even then as Sakurai may have bought that figure has reference material to model the character for the game
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:41:35 PM
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Ken was already leaked. There is a photo of him in the game that is likely to be legit (too hard to fake. It's a pic from debug mode, Ken is clipping the stage etc. Not to mention this character is a complete no brainer with the inclusion of echos. He is a literal pallet swap of a character already in the game. He is possibly the most famous pallette swap in fighting game history. He was the first clone/echo character to ever even exist to my knowledge. I mean it would literally be insane if he wasn't added. He also had a trophy in smash despite not even being a Nintendo character.

Shadow is another no brainer since the inclusion of echos. Just like Ken, he is a pallete swap of a character already in the game. He is super popular and interestingly enough, he was an assist trophy in previous smahs games, but now he was removed and replaced. I mean it makes no sense not to add this character honestly.
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TiamatLover
10/28/18 8:43:47 PM
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FarFromFields posted...
What does this have to do Trump or racism or earth quakes though?


Nothing. That's the point. It's another example of people connecting things to that to try and silence discussion they don't want getting out there... except that this one is ridiculous even by the usual standards of that move.
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:45:15 PM
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Lasly Isaac is another highly requested fan favorite. Recently an item was leaked that is likely to come from this guy's series. Also he has been an Assist trophy since there were assist trophies. He was basically the premier assist trophy >_> and now he is gone and no where to be seen.

But if you want the real proof, you have to look up the Isaac Earthquake theory. It's pretty damning.

People now believe he was cut from the September direct due to the contents of his trailer.

Idk if I believe that, but I do believe he was cropped from the everyone is here banner. There is a rushed banner released by nintendo that cropped him out of the banner where they left signs of the crop-job. Little Mac's gloves were cropped out right where he was standing in the Leak.

I mean you are just going to have to look it up on the smash boards, it's pretty interesting
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Milkman5
10/28/18 8:52:28 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
FarFromFields posted...
What does this have to do Trump or racism or earth quakes though?


Nothing. That's the point. It's another example of people connecting things to that to try and silence discussion they don't want getting out there... except that this one is ridiculous even by the usual standards of that move.


This. Also keep in mind, GameXplain thoroughly covered all leaks for Smash 4. Since then they have been a close affiliate of Nintendo so for them to approach this leak in particular in such a strange way only makes the case for this leak much stronger
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Milkman5
10/29/18 12:58:03 AM
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GameXplain have fucked themselves if this turns out to be true
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Muffinz0rz
10/29/18 1:00:35 AM
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Not to mention Banjo-Kazooie having a UK website added very recently for no particular reason
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legendarylemur
10/29/18 1:04:09 AM
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"Jon from GameXplain went on Twitter to say that that theory that Isaac was cut from September Direct is insensitive and if you entertain this theory you are sick because people died in that earth quake."

This is kind of insensitive though lol... Some people are using a natural disaster that claimed lives as evidence that their leak about a video game could be true. Even if that's a decent theory, just leave it as an unspoken thing
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Amatsukaze
10/29/18 1:05:41 AM
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Prestoff
10/29/18 1:07:45 AM
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Why is it called a Grinch leak?
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Darmik
10/29/18 1:07:51 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Not to mention Banjo-Kazooie having a UK website added very recently for no particular reason


That always happens on Nintendo sites. It doesn't mean anything and it happened with several titles. They keep the old databases on there and they get refreshed sometimes.
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CM_Ponch
10/29/18 1:18:26 AM
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legendarylemur posted...
"Jon from GameXplain went on Twitter to say that that theory that Isaac was cut from September Direct is insensitive and if you entertain this theory you are sick because people died in that earth quake."

This is kind of insensitive though lol... Some people are using a natural disaster that claimed lives as evidence that their leak about a video game could be true. Even if that's a decent theory, just leave it as an unspoken thing

Isaac's is a geomancer, his intro video was most likely him starting an earthquake. His official reveal would have been the day of the earthquake in Japan. Sakurai has even confirmed they had to change things around because of the Earthquake.
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Milkman5
10/29/18 1:19:05 AM
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It's worth pointing out all these licenses got refreshed within the same time frame and several of them were refreshed way before the 10 year mark (when they expire)
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CM_Ponch
10/29/18 1:19:32 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Why is it called a Grinch leak?

There was a render of Grinch promotional art in the picture with the Smash banner, the promotional art of the Grinch wasn't officially revealed until after the leak.
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Master_Bass
10/29/18 1:21:04 AM
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Lmao, I though this was a leak about the new Grinch movie since I forgot the Smash leak was called that.
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legendarylemur
10/29/18 1:21:16 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
legendarylemur posted...
"Jon from GameXplain went on Twitter to say that that theory that Isaac was cut from September Direct is insensitive and if you entertain this theory you are sick because people died in that earth quake."

This is kind of insensitive though lol... Some people are using a natural disaster that claimed lives as evidence that their leak about a video game could be true. Even if that's a decent theory, just leave it as an unspoken thing

Isaac's is a geomancer, his intro video was most likely him starting an earthquake. His official reveal would have been the day of the earthquake in Japan. Sakurai has even confirmed they had to change things around because of the Earthquake.

Yeah I know how fitting of a theory it is. But I mean it's not something to openly use to validate some leak about a game.
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Milkman5
10/29/18 1:21:31 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...

Isaac's is a geomancer, his intro video was most likely him starting an earthquake. His official reveal would have been the day of the earthquake in Japan. Sakurai has even confirmed they had to change things around because of the Earthquake.


Also, up to this point, every Direct unveiled at least two characters and they took a whole week before showing us the Direct after it was delayed.
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FL81
10/29/18 1:21:33 AM
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Milkman5
10/29/18 1:23:40 AM
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There now is video evidence that Phil Spencer met with Nintendo at E3
(He is the head of xbox)

https://mobile.twitter.com/KantoPancakes/status/1056724709549719552
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Prestoff
10/29/18 1:24:28 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Prestoff posted...
Why is it called a Grinch leak?

There was a render of Grinch promotional art in the picture with the Smash banner, the promotional art of the Grinch wasn't officially revealed until after the leak.


Okay I admit, that's pretty funny.
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CM_Ponch
10/29/18 1:25:35 AM
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legendarylemur posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
legendarylemur posted...
"Jon from GameXplain went on Twitter to say that that theory that Isaac was cut from September Direct is insensitive and if you entertain this theory you are sick because people died in that earth quake."

This is kind of insensitive though lol... Some people are using a natural disaster that claimed lives as evidence that their leak about a video game could be true. Even if that's a decent theory, just leave it as an unspoken thing

Isaac's is a geomancer, his intro video was most likely him starting an earthquake. His official reveal would have been the day of the earthquake in Japan. Sakurai has even confirmed they had to change things around because of the Earthquake.

Yeah I know how fitting of a theory it is. But I mean it's not something to openly use to validate some leak about a game.

The Earthquake is less about validating the leak and giving reasons for Isaac's delay. Isaac himself validates the leak. It also helps that since the leak Wendy's leaked a Golden Sun item.
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Darmik
10/29/18 1:26:52 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
There now is video evidence that Phil Spencer met with Nintendo at E3
(He is the head of xbox)

https://mobile.twitter.com/KantoPancakes/status/1056724709549719552


I believe the leak but this means absolutely nothing. Banjo would have been decided like a year or two ago if not longer.

Executives from these companies meet up all the time. Phil Spencer said him and Nintendo guys were talking about their new Adaptive Controller for example during meetings. A lot of their buildings are close-by.

On top of that Microsoft has Minecraft on the Switch platform already.
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soulunison2
10/29/18 1:27:52 AM
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wait like the actual grinch from the grinch that stole christmas
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CM_Ponch
10/29/18 1:28:47 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
wait like the actual grinch from the grinch that stole christmas

Yes
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soulunison2
10/29/18 1:29:58 AM
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like in the game?

or am I just reading this wrong

I think I'm reading this wrong
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Lebronwon
10/29/18 1:32:35 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
like in the game?

or am I just reading this wrong

I think I'm reading this wrong


It is just named the Grinch leak because the leaker was also working on something for the new Grinch film in his screenshot of the proof.
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soulunison2
10/29/18 1:33:26 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
soulunison2 posted...
like in the game?

or am I just reading this wrong

I think I'm reading this wrong


It is just named the Grinch leak because the leaker was also working on something for the new Grinch film in his screenshot of the proof.


ooooooooooooh

had me rolling for a second lol

ah well at least neonoctopus gets his nut with Geno being confirmed
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Milkman5
10/29/18 1:35:07 AM
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Darmik posted...
I believe the leak but this means absolutely nothing. Banjo would have been decided like a year or two ago if not longer.

Executives from these companies meet up all the time. Phil Spencer said him and Nintendo guys were talking about their new Adaptive Controller for example during meetings. A lot of their buildings are close-by.

On top of that Microsoft has Minecraft on the Switch platform already.


Not true. It supports Papa Genos theory. Brawl was delayed several months to add Sonic to the game. He was decided to be added very, very late in development and they used the last couple of months to develop him.

Papa Genos thinks that Incineroar was being developed then was dropped so they could focus on adding Banjo as a last minute addition.

If you follow the timeline, Phil Spencer tweeted that he wanted Banjo Kazooie added to smash. He said he would be ok with the character being added to the game. This was just before E3 and the tweet still exists. If they already made the deal, he wouldn't have said this because it would violate NDA or it would be risky to say.

Then he gets contacted by Nintendo and eats lunch with them at E3. Now, keep in mind, there are 6 months of development time still left for Smash Ultimate. That is plenty of time to drop Incineroar in favor of Banjo, as proven by the development process of the past smash games. Many characters were dropped during development for other characters. And many characters were developed last minute and many characters were developed in under 3 months.
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stoltenberg11
10/29/18 1:46:09 AM
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I can't tell if this is a smash post or a grinch post or an alt right rant or some bastard combination of the three
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Milkman5
10/29/18 1:49:12 AM
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stoltenberg11 posted...
I can't tell if this is a smash post or a grinch post or an alt right rant or some bastard combination of the three

Andre Segers is a cucklord that injects SJW politics into everything.

This barely has anything to do with politics or the grinch film. This topic is about super smash bros ultimate.
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ProfessorKukui
10/29/18 1:56:11 AM
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this conspiracy theory would have been a whole lot better read w/o cuckoldry... but milkman gotta milkman
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