Current Events > Trump: In Florida there is a choice between an educated man and a thief

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ledbowman
10/29/18 12:00:32 PM
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In Florida there is a choice between a Harvard/Yale educated man named @RonDeSantisFL who has been a great Congressman and will be a great Governor - and a Dem who is a thief and who is Mayor of poorly run Tallahassee, said to be one of the most corrupt cities in the Country!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1056922209111994373?s=19
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LightHawKnight
10/29/18 12:04:26 PM
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Can Trump be sued for libel?
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Unimpressed
10/29/18 12:05:38 PM
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Trump's calling him a thief because he's black. His base loves it.
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jpenny2
10/29/18 12:05:48 PM
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When in doubt, go for the ad hominem.
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BigSLM1993
10/29/18 12:07:12 PM
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How is Gillum not educated?
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ThePieReborn
10/29/18 12:07:29 PM
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Actual malice standard would be applicable even under the assumption that the president is not immune from civil suit while in office.

Tl;dr very very unlikely.
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K181
10/29/18 12:07:37 PM
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BigSLM1993 posted...
How is Gillum not educated?


Because he's.....
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eston
10/29/18 12:10:41 PM
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LightHawKnight
10/29/18 12:11:24 PM
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^ Damn.
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P4wn4g3
10/29/18 12:11:43 PM
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Trump would fall into the latter category.
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eston
10/29/18 12:12:06 PM
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The Great Muta 22
10/29/18 12:13:07 PM
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How exactly is Gillum a thief? Is he honestly referencing the Hamilton ticket nonstory?
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OctilIery
10/29/18 12:13:41 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
Actual malice standard would be applicable even under the assumption that the president is not immune from civil suit while in office.

Tl;dr very very unlikely.

No, this would definitely be lawsuit worthy if Trump wasn't in office.
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Relient_K
10/29/18 12:16:02 PM
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Are things said on social media really libel or slander? Seems like a stretch but I'm really asking.
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OctilIery
10/29/18 12:16:51 PM
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Relient_K posted...
Are things said on social media really libel or slander? Seems like a stretch but I'm really asking.

Musk just got a huge lawsuit over a tweet.
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prince_leo
10/29/18 12:17:03 PM
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MacDaMurderer
10/29/18 12:18:58 PM
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Tallahassee is not even on the radar as most corrupt city. Not even top 20. Hell Orlando is more corrupt (Everything goes through Disney first)
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The Great Muta 22
10/29/18 12:19:30 PM
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Relient_K posted...
Are things said on social media really libel or slander? Seems like a stretch but I'm really asking.


I suppose they could be, but it's a case by case issue and with Trump specifically I doubt it would be in this situation. Much like the Stormy defamation lawsuit getting dismissed a couple weeks back (god, modern news timeline fucking flies), the judge ruled that Twitter itself is basically a place of bombastic statements and hyperbole and especially Trump's Twitter, meaning that people should know he's not entirely serious on there and thus his statements could be dismissed as such.

Removing politics directly from it if say, McDoanlds Twitter account put out a statement that Burger King was putting poison in their burgers, I'd imagine THAT would hold up in the court of law.
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Relient_K
10/29/18 12:22:17 PM
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I don't see how we can say one minute that his tweets are presidential statements and can be considered official and yet another say that he shouldn't be taken seriously. Don't think it should go both ways.
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DirkDiggles
10/29/18 12:24:07 PM
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Ironic. Isn't Trump's cabinet is full of liars and thieves?
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OctilIery
10/29/18 12:25:04 PM
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Relient_K posted...
I don't see how we can say one minute that his tweets are presidential statements and can be considered official and yet another say that he shouldn't be taken seriously. Don't think it should go both ways.

They're presidential and official but his presidency is a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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ledbowman
10/29/18 12:28:14 PM
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>washinton d.c.
>not extremely corrupt
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The Great Muta 22
10/29/18 12:36:37 PM
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Relient_K posted...
I don't see how we can say one minute that his tweets are presidential statements and can be considered official and yet another say that he shouldn't be taken seriously. Don't think it should go both ways.


The White House has officially said that his tweets are presidential statements and are considered official. The court has said the platform of Twitter is a place where people engage in hyperbole and thus you can't take statements made as facts.

Both of these ideas can exist and not be in contradiction to each other
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BigSLM1993
10/29/18 12:39:18 PM
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eston posted...
rLWzebx

LOL went for the juggular.
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eston
10/29/18 12:39:52 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
Tallahassee is not even on the radar as most corrupt city. Not even top 20. Hell Orlando is more corrupt (Everything goes through Disney first)

Indeed
It has, however, been called one of the best cities in Florida to raise a family and among the top 100 best places to live
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Unimpressed
10/29/18 12:42:02 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
How exactly is Gillum a thief? Is he honestly referencing the Hamilton ticket nonstory?

Because he's black and Trump is racist garbage
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Antifar
10/29/18 12:42:09 PM
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The law is pretty lenient when it comes to libel/slander; I think you'd have to be more specific than "thief" to run into trouble
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eston
10/29/18 12:44:27 PM
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Antifar
10/29/18 12:45:02 PM
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I'd note the irony of the "anti-elite" guy citing Ivy League degrees as a positive, but nobody cares and nothing matters.
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DemonBuffet
10/29/18 12:46:39 PM
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Trump University

Trump is the face of corruption and deceit
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ArchiePeck
10/29/18 12:49:10 PM
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Relient_K posted...
Are things said on social media really libel or slander? Seems like a stretch but I'm really asking.


Why would it be a stretch? They are published statements.
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TheRealDill2000
10/29/18 12:51:29 PM
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Why are so many people jumping to racism?
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BigSLM1993
10/29/18 12:55:20 PM
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I wonder if he'll respond to Gillum calling him weak. I feel like his ego cannot take that insult standing.
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Unimpressed
10/29/18 12:56:23 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Why are so many people jumping to racism?

Trump is very racist. It's a reasonable step of logic
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eston
10/29/18 1:01:18 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Why are so many people jumping to racism?

Not difficult when he's openly backing a racist candidate
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slimfizzle2
10/29/18 1:01:35 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
(Everything goes through Disney first)

Even the cocaine?
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Prestoff
10/29/18 1:05:44 PM
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Gillum isn't exactly clean either, but how is he a thief?
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DifferentialEquation
10/29/18 1:07:47 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Gillum isn't exactly clean either, but how is he a thief?


I don't know, but would Trump make such an accusation if it wasn't true?
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BigSLM1993
10/29/18 1:19:55 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Prestoff posted...
Gillum isn't exactly clean either, but how is he a thief?


I don't know, but would Trump make such an accusation if it wasn't true?


Trump would never lie, that'd be fake news.
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ThePieReborn
10/29/18 1:20:32 PM
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slimfizzle2 posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
(Everything goes through Disney first)

Even the cocaine?

Especially the cocaine.
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slimfizzle2
10/29/18 3:04:04 PM
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I knew you could never trust that mouse.
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littlebro07
10/29/18 7:50:30 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
slimfizzle2 posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
(Everything goes through Disney first)

Even the cocaine?

Especially the cocaine.


This

I'm standing outside Space Mountain right now and there's a barrel full of cocaine sitting next to me.
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alt_no_1_loves
10/29/18 7:54:59 PM
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Man, I love Gillum. I don't live in Florida at the moment, but I still think of it as home, and I hope like hell they elect that dude.
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