Poll of the Day > Trump wants to end birthright citizenship

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DoubleOSnake 10/30/18 9:02:33 AM #1:	Do you agree with trump? - Results (11 votes) yes end birthright citizenship 54.55% (6 votes) 6 no keep it 45.45% (5 votes) 5 just read that trump wants to end it but most of the coverage has gone to mexicans who give birth in the u.s. but presumably it would apply to everyone of all countries. --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:911443564] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote> Do you agree with trump? - Results (11 votes) yes end birthright citizenship 54.55% (6 votes) 6 no keep it 45.45% (5 votes) 5 just read that trump wants to end it but most of the coverage has gone to mexicans who give birth in the u.s. but presumably it would apply to everyone of all countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/30/18 9:03:38 AM #2:	I would like to see proof of this. Another major stain on his record if he wants to do that. --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:911443596] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>I would like to see proof of this. Another major stain on his record if he wants to do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SeahorseCpt89 10/30/18 9:04:49 AM #3:	I can understand wanting to limit illegal immigrants from crossing the border, but this is taking it WAY too far. --- Reminder: you have the right to an opinion, but you don't have the right to not be ridiculed for your opinion. <cite>SeahorseCpt89 posted [p:911443642] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>I can understand wanting to limit illegal immigrants from crossing the border, but this is taking it WAY too far.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 10/30/18 9:06:11 AM #4:	why do you think it takes it way too far? --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:911443686] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>why do you think it takes it way too far?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoubleOSnake 10/30/18 9:13:05 AM #6:	you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:911443935] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/30/18 9:15:03 AM #7:	DoubleOSnake posted... you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order And then the Supreme Court can deem that executive order unconstitutional. Children these days don't even know how the law in their own country works. --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:911444024] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoubleOSnake posted...</cite> <quote>you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order</quote> And then the Supreme Court can deem that executive order unconstitutional. Children these days don't even know how the law in their own country works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/30/18 9:30:51 AM #9:	Im undecided on this issue honestly. From what I know most countries dont have a system like this and being born in a country doesnt make you a citizen of that nation unless you were born to parents who are citizens. Im not sure what the benefits are of the way we have it currently. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:911444693] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>Im undecided on this issue honestly. From what I know most countries dont have a system like this and being born in a country doesnt make you a citizen of that nation unless you were born to parents who are citizens. Im not sure what the benefits are of the way we have it currently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/30/18 9:38:11 AM #10:	I was ironically reading about this just the other day, based on a completely unrelated discussion about dual citizenship. At the time my reaction was basically along the lines of, "Hmm, why DO we still do things this way? It seems like there are a lot of better ways to handle citizenship that wouldn't constantly encourage birth tourism." The interesting part is that most nations in the Americas have policy along these lines, while very few nations in Africa or Eurasia do. Which implies it's probably a mindset strongly influenced by colonialism. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:911445013] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>I was ironically reading about this just the other day, based on a completely unrelated discussion about dual citizenship. At the time my reaction was basically along the lines of, "Hmm, why DO we still do things this way? It seems like there are a lot of better ways to handle citizenship that wouldn't constantly encourage birth tourism." The interesting part is that most nations in the Americas have policy along these lines, while very few nations in Africa or Eurasia do. Which implies it's probably a mindset strongly influenced by colonialism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hmnut7 10/30/18 9:38:35 AM #11:	Trump is probably just saying it to pump up the xenophobic people in his base. As long as he says it if it never happens he can blame the deep state. --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" <cite>hmnut7 posted [p:911445026] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>Trump is probably just saying it to pump up the xenophobic people in his base. As long as he says it if it never happens he can blame the deep state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 10/30/18 9:42:46 AM #12:	Ban birth tourism entirely, and Trump also needs to ban H-1B as well, it's long overdue. I'm afraid just ending birthright citizenship might affect actual citizens. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:911445232] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>Ban birth tourism entirely, and Trump also needs to ban H-1B as well, it's long overdue. I'm afraid just ending birthright citizenship might affect actual citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SeahorseCpt89 10/30/18 9:46:17 AM #13:	Zangulus posted... DoubleOSnake posted... you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order Yes. Constitutional changes require more than a single signature. A lot more. It is an amendment, right? So the only way to nullify it is with a new amendment? If so, yeah, that will take a lot more effort than simply signing a paper. --- Reminder: you have the right to an opinion, but you don't have the right to not be ridiculed for your opinion. <cite>SeahorseCpt89 posted [p:911445388] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoubleOSnake posted...</cite> <quote>you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order</quote> Yes. Constitutional changes require more than a single signature. A lot more.</quote> It is an amendment, right? So the only way to nullify it is with a new amendment? If so, yeah, that will take a lot more effort than simply signing a paper.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 10/30/18 9:49:33 AM #16:	This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America. Judgmenl posted... I would like to see proof of this. Another major stain on his record if he wants to do that. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/trump-birthright-citizenship.html --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:911445547] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America. <cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>I would like to see proof of this. Another major stain on his record if he wants to do that.</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/trump-birthright-citizenship.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fastest_Spartan 10/30/18 9:52:44 AM #17:	Were the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years, with all of those benefits Look everybody, Trump is lying again. --- Nope... <cite>Fastest_Spartan posted [p:911445691] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><quote>Were the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years, with all of those benefits</quote> Look everybody, Trump is lying again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 10/30/18 10:10:07 AM #18:	I think it is an interesting concept. But I think in practice it would have the opposite effect of what right wingers want. Most Americans can't pass a citizenship test while most immigrants do. It would also mean children would need to work to become citizens and if the child is handicapped that could cause issues. Or if a student is home schooled or goes to a poor school they may not be learning all the right stuff. So many poor and disabled people would be left without a country. And schools in general would be a toss up on if the kids can even go. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:911446534] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>I think it is an interesting concept. But I think in practice it would have the opposite effect of what right wingers want. Most Americans can't pass a citizenship test while most immigrants do. It would also mean children would need to work to become citizens and if the child is handicapped that could cause issues. Or if a student is home schooled or goes to a poor school they may not be learning all the right stuff. So many poor and disabled people would be left without a country. And schools in general would be a toss up on if the kids can even go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dynalo 10/30/18 10:14:32 AM #19:	slacker03150 posted... I think it is an interesting concept. But I think in practice it would have the opposite effect of what right wingers want. Most Americans can't pass a citizenship test while most immigrants do. It would also mean children would need to work to become citizens and if the child is handicapped that could cause issues. Or if a student is home schooled or goes to a poor school they may not be learning all the right stuff. So many poor and disabled people would be left without a country. And schools in general would be a toss up on if the kids can even go. Or, more likely, you become an automatic citizen if both (or at least one) of the parents is a citizen. Doubtful they'd attempt to test every single person in the country. That seems like a logistical nightmare. --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:911446769] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>slacker03150 posted...</cite> <quote>I think it is an interesting concept. But I think in practice it would have the opposite effect of what right wingers want. Most Americans can't pass a citizenship test while most immigrants do. It would also mean children would need to work to become citizens and if the child is handicapped that could cause issues. Or if a student is home schooled or goes to a poor school they may not be learning all the right stuff. So many poor and disabled people would be left without a country. And schools in general would be a toss up on if the kids can even go.</quote> Or, more likely, you become an automatic citizen if both (or at least one) of the parents is a citizen. Doubtful they'd attempt to test every single person in the country. That seems like a logistical nightmare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/30/18 10:15:20 AM #20:	SunWuKung420 This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America. Could you elaborate? Not sure I see the connection --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:911446826] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420</cite> <quote>This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America.</quote> Could you elaborate? Not sure I see the connection</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/30/18 10:21:55 AM #21:	Hop103 posted... Ban birth tourism entirely, and Trump also needs to ban H-1B as well, it's long overdue. I'm afraid just ending birthright citizenship might affect actual citizens. I agree with the banning of H1B visas, or at least removing Software Engineers from the list of valid professions. --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:911447214] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Ban birth tourism entirely, and Trump also needs to ban H-1B as well, it's long overdue. I'm afraid just ending birthright citizenship might affect actual citizens.</quote> I agree with the banning of H1B visas, or at least removing Software Engineers from the list of valid professions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/30/18 10:29:22 AM #22:	ParanoidObsessive posted... The interesting part is that most nations in the Americas have policy along these lines, while very few nations in Africa or Eurasia do. Which implies it's probably a mindset strongly influenced by colonialism. Just a quick FYI, Britain colonised the whole planet, Africa and Eurasia aren't more or less colonised by English invaders, so your point makes no sense. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:911447612] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>The interesting part is that most nations in the Americas have policy along these lines, while very few nations in Africa or Eurasia do. Which implies it's probably a mindset strongly influenced by colonialism.</quote> Just a quick FYI, Britain colonised the whole planet, Africa and Eurasia aren't more or less colonised by English invaders, so your point makes no sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 10/30/18 10:32:55 AM #23:	Mead posted... SunWuKung420 This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America. Could you elaborate? Not sure I see the connection i'm not sure he sees the connection either, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:911447810] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420</cite> <quote>This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America.</quote> Could you elaborate? Not sure I see the connection</quote> i'm not sure he sees the connection either, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/30/18 10:34:20 AM #24:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:911447877] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/30/18 10:36:40 AM #25:	SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:911447995] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/30/18 10:37:45 AM #26:	Mead posted... SunWuKung420 This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America. Could you elaborate? Not sure I see the connection You have to be a natural born citizen (born in the US) to be president. If being a citizen is no longer a product of being born in the US, then they'll say that anyone who successfully jumps through what will undoubtedly a racist and classist system to become a citizen, can be president. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:911448054] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420</cite> <quote>This isn't about immigrants, this is to open the doors to a non-USA born President and that will be the end of a free America.</quote> Could you elaborate? Not sure I see the connection</quote> You have to be a natural born citizen (born in the US) to be president. If being a citizen is no longer a product of being born in the US, then they'll say that anyone who successfully jumps through what will undoubtedly a racist and classist system to become a citizen, can be president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SeahorseCpt89 10/30/18 10:42:56 AM #27:	SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. Actually, Britain had one of the largest (if not THE largest). Their empire totaled over 3.7 million sq. miles including (but not limited to) half of what is now the USA (not just the colonies), pretty much all of Canada, almost half of Africa, practically all of India and Australia. --- Reminder: you have the right to an opinion, but you don't have the right to not be ridiculed for your opinion. <cite>SeahorseCpt89 posted [p:911448330] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> Actually, Britain had one of the largest (if not THE largest). Their empire totaled over 3.7 million sq. miles including (but not limited to) half of what is now the USA (not just the colonies), pretty much all of Canada, almost half of Africa, practically all of India and Australia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/30/18 10:44:01 AM #28:	SunWuKung420 posted... You have to be a natural born citizen (born in the US) to be president. If being a citizen is no longer a product of being born in the US, then they'll say that anyone who successfully jumps through what will undoubtedly a racist and classist system to become a citizen, can be president. Or... If you're born in the US and are made a citizen, you meet the requirements? That's assuming they don't do the obvious and make children of citizens be citizens too. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:911448399] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>You have to be a natural born citizen (born in the US) to be president. If being a citizen is no longer a product of being born in the US, then they'll say that anyone who successfully jumps through what will undoubtedly a racist and classist system to become a citizen, can be president.</quote> Or... If you're born in the US and are made a citizen, you meet the requirements? That's assuming they don't do the obvious and make children of citizens be citizens too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 10/30/18 10:46:03 AM #29:	Judgmenl posted... or at least removing Software Engineers from the list of valid professions. Lol! <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:911448535] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>or at least removing Software Engineers from the list of valid professions.</quote> Lol!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/30/18 10:46:33 AM #30:	SeahorseCpt89 posted... SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. Actually, Britain had one of the largest (if not THE largest). Their empire totaled over 3.7 million sq. miles including (but not limited to) half of what is now the USA (not just the colonies), pretty much all of Canada, almost half of Africa, practically all of India and Australia. HAD is the operative world. They were bankrupt after WW2 and now they are smaller than a pinky. But living in the past always makes a great future. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:911448560] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>SeahorseCpt89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> Actually, Britain had one of the largest (if not THE largest). Their empire totaled over 3.7 million sq. miles including (but not limited to) half of what is now the USA (not just the colonies), pretty much all of Canada, almost half of Africa, practically all of India and Australia.</quote> HAD is the operative world. They were bankrupt after WW2 and now they are smaller than a pinky. But living in the past always makes a great future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/30/18 10:54:18 AM #31:	SunWuKung420 posted... SeahorseCpt89 posted... SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. Actually, Britain had one of the largest (if not THE largest). Their empire totaled over 3.7 million sq. miles including (but not limited to) half of what is now the USA (not just the colonies), pretty much all of Canada, almost half of Africa, practically all of India and Australia. HAD is the operative world. They were bankrupt after WW2 and now they are smaller than a pinky. But living in the past always makes a great future. a) Not relevant, considering how we're talking about colonial influence on laws in foreign countries, b) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories The sun still never sets in the British Empire, despite not even maintaining an empire, and; c) We produce 5.6x GDP per square mile, Britain is a super dense powerhouse still, even after the US literally robbing the allied forces in WWII. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:911449008] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SeahorseCpt89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> Actually, Britain had one of the largest (if not THE largest). Their empire totaled over 3.7 million sq. miles including (but not limited to) half of what is now the USA (not just the colonies), pretty much all of Canada, almost half of Africa, practically all of India and Australia.</quote> HAD is the operative world. They were bankrupt after WW2 and now they are smaller than a pinky. But living in the past always makes a great future.</quote> a) Not relevant, considering how we're talking about colonial influence on laws in foreign countries, b) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories The sun still never sets in the British Empire, despite not even maintaining an empire, and; c) We produce 5.6x GDP per square mile, Britain is a super dense powerhouse still, even after the US literally robbing the allied forces in WWII.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/30/18 10:56:54 AM #32:	Kyuubi4269 posted... US literally robbing the allied forces ???? --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:911449191] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>US literally robbing the allied forces</quote> ????</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/30/18 10:58:07 AM #33:	Judgmenl posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... US literally robbing the allied forces ???? Ya, US involvement in WWII was primarily taking advatage of an international disaster to set up loans. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:911449281] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>US literally robbing the allied forces</quote> ????</quote> Ya, US involvement in WWII was primarily taking advatage of an international disaster to set up loans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J_Dawg983 10/30/18 11:02:01 AM #34:	While it does seem stupid that a citizen of another country can pop a child out in the states and have it an American citizen seems dumb, I could imagine a lot more stupid shit coming of taking it away. --- RSN: Pridefc PSN: Jaosin <cite>J_Dawg983 posted [p:911449518] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>While it does seem stupid that a citizen of another country can pop a child out in the states and have it an American citizen seems dumb, I could imagine a lot more stupid shit coming of taking it away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/30/18 11:02:37 AM #35:	I mean if you say so. Events don't happen for any one singular reason. Live is not one dimensional like that. --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:911449547] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>I mean if you say so. Events don't happen for any one singular reason. Live is not one dimensional like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 10/30/18 11:17:13 AM #36:	Judgmenl posted... DoubleOSnake posted... you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order And then the Supreme Court can deem that executive order unconstitutional. Except that Trump has already placed two of his own justices on the court, which now leans conservative, plus two more justices are over age 80, including liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg who is 85. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:911450462] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoubleOSnake posted...</cite> <quote>you sure he can't? he said he can just sign an executive order</quote> And then the Supreme Court can deem that executive order unconstitutional.</quote> Except that Trump has already placed two of his own justices on the court, which now leans conservative, plus two more justices are over age 80, including liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg who is 85.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/30/18 11:20:18 AM #37:	captpackrat posted... Except that Trump has already placed two of his own justices on the court, which now leans conservative, plus two more justices are over age 80, including liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg who is 85. So we're going to make the silly argument that the Supreme Court is going explicitly violate the constitution because Orange Man is the president and a specific party is in? Talk about fearmongering. --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:911450646] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>Except that Trump has already placed two of his own justices on the court, which now leans conservative, plus two more justices are over age 80, including liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg who is 85. </quote> So we're going to make the silly argument that the Supreme Court is going explicitly violate the constitution because Orange Man is the president and a specific party is in? Talk about fearmongering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nesrtkfan 10/30/18 1:22:59 PM #38:	Kyuubi4269 posted... SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire. That list is lacking the USA ... <cite>nesrtkfan posted [p:911458403] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire.</quote> That list is lacking the USA ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 10/30/18 1:27:46 PM #39:	nesrtkfan posted... That list is lacking the USA ... Perhaps the USA isn't considered an empire, kingdom, dynasty, etc.? --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:911458734] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>nesrtkfan posted...</cite> <quote>That list is lacking the USA ... </quote> Perhaps the USA isn't considered an empire, kingdom, dynasty, etc.?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/30/18 1:39:20 PM #40:	nesrtkfan posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire. That list is lacking the USA ... It's also smaller than the British Empire. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:911459515] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>nesrtkfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire.</quote> That list is lacking the USA ...</quote> It's also smaller than the British Empire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 10/30/18 1:45:34 PM #41:	I don't agree with birthright citizenship under all circumstances. Just hopping the border and pushing out a kid is a scam and unfair to people who follow the rules. Unless you enter the country legally (even just on a tourist visa, etc.), it shouldn't count. Refugee babies would still count because that is a legal entry... --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:911459915] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with birthright citizenship under all circumstances. Just hopping the border and pushing out a kid is a scam and unfair to people who follow the rules. Unless you enter the country legally (even just on a tourist visa, etc.), it shouldn't count. Refugee babies would still count because that is a legal entry...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 10/30/18 1:50:28 PM #42:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybNI0KB1bg" data-time=" --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:911460244] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybNI0KB1bg" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 10/30/18 1:57:30 PM #43:	Judgmenl posted... And then the Supreme Court can deem that executive order unconstitutional. Kavanaugh says...."lol".... --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:911460678] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>And then the Supreme Court can deem that executive order unconstitutional.</quote> Kavanaugh says...."lol"....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninja_lootz 10/30/18 2:04:06 PM #44:	All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. One could argue illegals aren't subject to our jurisdiction, so the amendment wouldn't apply to them. I dunno, I wouldn't just assume Trump's executive order violates the Constitution as it's never gone to court before. --- MY HELMET'S ON YOU CAN'T TELL ME I'M NOT IN SPACE <cite>ninja_lootz posted [p:911461117] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><quote>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.</quote> One could argue illegals aren't subject to our jurisdiction, so the amendment wouldn't apply to them. I dunno, I wouldn't just assume Trump's executive order violates the Constitution as it's never gone to court before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 10/30/18 2:08:08 PM #45:	Good --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:911461373] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>Good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZenTen 10/30/18 2:12:26 PM #46:	Get rid of the "just cause your parents are illegal doesn't mean X", God Emperor. Please, let us mete out punishment based on actual crimes, like illegal living in another country. And make Canada pay for it. --- No matter what the most people believe, it likely isn't the truth. A savage GameFAQs deserves a savage end! <cite>ZenTen posted [p:911461656] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>Get rid of the "just cause your parents are illegal doesn't mean X", God Emperor. Please, let us mete out punishment based on actual crimes, like illegal living in another country. And make Canada pay for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 10/30/18 3:09:49 PM #47:	Zangulus posted... Hop103 posted... Ban birth tourism entirely, and Trump also needs to ban H-1B as well, it's long overdue. I'm afraid just ending birthright citizenship might affect actual citizens. The problem is that the way its written (purposefully) allows birthright tourism. The 14th amendment would have to be rewritten. Rewriting it is the best option in this case. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:911465230] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>Ban birth tourism entirely, and Trump also needs to ban H-1B as well, it's long overdue. I'm afraid just ending birthright citizenship might affect actual citizens.</quote> The problem is that the way its written (purposefully) allows birthright tourism. The 14th amendment would have to be rewritten.</quote> Rewriting it is the best option in this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 10/30/18 3:26:16 PM #48:	Mead posted... Im undecided on this issue honestly. From what I know most countries dont have a system like this and being born in a country doesnt make you a citizen of that nation unless you were born to parents who are citizens. Im not sure what the benefits are of the way we have it currently. Over 30 countries have it. It's a very old piece of law. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:911466180] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Im undecided on this issue honestly. From what I know most countries dont have a system like this and being born in a country doesnt make you a citizen of that nation unless you were born to parents who are citizens. Im not sure what the benefits are of the way we have it currently.</quote> Over 30 countries have it. It's a very old piece of law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/30/18 3:46:24 PM #49:	just make it only count if your parents are also citizens. no more anchor baby bullshit --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:911467515] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote>just make it only count if your parents are also citizens. no more anchor baby bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/30/18 3:49:16 PM #50:	Kyuubi4269 posted... SunWuKung420 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Britain colonised the whole planet, ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire. genghis kahn conquered more of the world than anyone else --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:911467691] in Trump want... [t:77148294]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Britain colonised the whole planet,</quote> ROFL. Is this the stuff they teach in British schools? The whole planet, ROFL. In the history of empires, Britains is easily the smallest.</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires The sun never sets in our Empire.</quote> genghis kahn conquered more of the world than anyone else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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