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TheKentster
10/31/18 10:03:55 PM
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https://www.showbiz411.com/2018/10/31/ratings-the-conners-beaten-by-everything-drops-in-total-viewers-and-demo-as-abc-orders-only-1-more-episode

The Conners dropped in everything last nighttotal viewers, key demo. In the nightly ratings battle. the Roseanne spin off continues to trend downward.

Last night, The Conners was beaten by everything- NCIS, The Voice, etc. This was their first really objective run, no World Series, nothing to distract potential viewers.

But the key demo sank, which isnt a good sign. And the total viewers were down by 180K, which is a lot, frankly. People are leaving and theyre not coming back.

ABC has ordered 1 extra episode to the original order of 10. Sounds to me like a finale. Someone wakes up and says they dreamt Roseanne died. Theres a cackle from the next room. Fade to black.

ADDENDUM Variety is reporting that John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, and Sara Gilbert are each being paid $375,000 an episode. Lets say Lacy Goranson and Michael Fishman get $100,000 apiece, then there the kids and DJs ex wife. Thats a heavy load per week if the ratings keep falling. The Conners has to be added to Roseannes syndication package eventually it will never reach 100 episodes and have its own package. So Werner TV is in trouble, with millions going out and not enough coming back. The Conners is doomed.
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spudger
10/31/18 10:05:18 PM
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Duh
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Ultima Dragon
10/31/18 10:07:13 PM
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I get that they wanted to do right by the actors since it's not really fair of them to all be out of work on account of Roseanne. But really, who tf watches a show without the main character? Literally anyone could have seen this coming a mile away.
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Nomadic View
10/31/18 10:08:02 PM
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Yeah, I cant believe they thought it would be a good idea to have Roseanne without Roseanne.
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littlebro07
10/31/18 10:08:12 PM
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I enjoyed the two episodes I saw and didnt even notice Roseanne was gone after a few minutes
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The Great Muta 22
10/31/18 10:08:26 PM
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Roseanne still deserved to be fired
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RebelElite791
10/31/18 10:08:28 PM
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Nobody cares Madfoot.
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XHJYFL
10/31/18 10:09:19 PM
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#GetWokeGoBroke
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AsAnIndependent
10/31/18 10:09:29 PM
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Sjwism isn't profitable
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Sexypwnstar
10/31/18 10:09:33 PM
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Lol, you know no one cares about the actual viewers? Only the rating for the 18-49 demographic, in which it topped out.
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Cornmuffins
10/31/18 10:10:31 PM
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What is that garbage ass website and why does it read like a blog?
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TheKentster
10/31/18 10:10:50 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
I get that they wanted to do right by the actors since it's not really fair of them to all be out of work on account of Roseanne. But really, who tf watches a show without the main character? Literally anyone could have seen this coming a mile away.


I mean it's doable. Better Call Saul is great without Walt, right. Frashier! You know. The Office was still good when Michael left because they had built up such a good cast.

Roseanne is all about Roseanne though. The only funny parts the other characters have is playing off Roseanne.
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Johnny_Nutcase
10/31/18 10:11:55 PM
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I never like the original Roseanne. I always thought she was a bitch. She even looks like a hog. But even after all this shit, that shit show needs to go down in flames. John Goodman is awesome though. Him and Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince would have made for a great combo show somehow. They get angry REAL fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhI0OVs_zj0" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqPbEOKzzUA" data-time="


I mean in a perfect world we could put those two together and I believe we could cure cancer.
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The Great Muta 22
10/31/18 10:12:05 PM
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The Office got remarkably shittier when Michael left, ratings completely tanked, and there were multiple calls to cancel the show. The fuck you even talking about?
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TheKentster
10/31/18 10:12:14 PM
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Cornmuffins posted...
What is that garbage ass website and why does it read like a blog?


It gives you the 411 (information) on Showbiz

You're probably a young one and don't remember 411. It was something we'd dial back in the day to get a number or other info before the internet.
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TheKentster
10/31/18 10:13:09 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
The Office got remarkably shittier when Michael left, ratings completely tanked, and there were multiple calls to cancel the show. The fuck you even talking about?


I said it was still good without Michael. It wasn't as good... but it was still a good show.
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Cornmuffins
10/31/18 10:13:43 PM
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Nah, a quick google search shows how disingenuous your link is. I like the weird insult though.
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X-Pac_Heat
10/31/18 10:13:46 PM
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Honestly, the only people I know who were even interested in it were people who never had interest in Rosanne until she got fired, so I figured this was going to happen.
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Darmik
10/31/18 10:13:55 PM
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TheKentster posted...
Ultima Dragon posted...
I get that they wanted to do right by the actors since it's not really fair of them to all be out of work on account of Roseanne. But really, who tf watches a show without the main character? Literally anyone could have seen this coming a mile away.


I mean it's doable. Better Call Saul is great without Walt, right. Frashier! You know. The Office was still good when Michael left because they had built up such a good cast.

Roseanne is all about Roseanne though. The only funny parts the other characters have is playing off Roseanne.


Frasier was a spin-off based on one character. I don't know if most of the audience even knew he was from Cheers. He wasn't even one of the main characters on it.
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TheKentster
10/31/18 10:14:41 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
Honestly, the only people I know who were even interested in it were people who never had interest in Rosanne until she got fired, so I figured this was going to happen.


Yeah, and things banking on angry liberals never last.
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The Great Muta 22
10/31/18 10:17:26 PM
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Why are multiple articles I'm reading making the claim that the show did far better than the shit source you posted made it seem?

https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2018/10/31/ratings-the-conners-halloween-episode-tops-the-voice-knockouts-in-key-demo/23577160/

The Voice at 8 p.m. received a 1.6/7 and 8.8 million viewers....

For ABC, The Conners at 8 kicked off the day part with a 1.8/8 and 7.7 million viewers.


And the article says it was "beat by NCIS, The Voice, everything..." when those two shows are literally the only shows that beat them...Come on man, get better sources
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lightwarrior78
10/31/18 10:32:55 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
I get that they wanted to do right by the actors since it's not really fair of them to all be out of work on account of Roseanne. But really, who tf watches a show without the main character? Literally anyone could have seen this coming a mile away.


It's not unheard of. Yes, it's usually the death knell of a show, but some can make a go of it. Spin City got a couple of years after Michael J Fox left. Mystery Science Theatre 4 1/2 seasons with Mike instead of Joeal (granted few turned in for the cast of that show). Most noted might be Valerie / Hogan Family lasting 4 years after it's star got the boot after being on for 2, even seeing a ratings boost without her.

Rosanne was unsurprising because the show was so focused on her and her personality and the rest of the cast felt bland by comparison.
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