Board 8 > Why This Contest Desperately Needs Rallies

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XIII_rocks
11/04/18 3:56:46 PM
#51:


SuperNiceDog posted...

SSBM's counter-rally was one yes. A rally does not have to translate into a win.


My hesitance there was more because it was a counter-rally, a reactive attempt to stop UT, rather than a separate UT-style rally.
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LeonhartFour
11/04/18 3:58:17 PM
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Averia
11/04/18 3:58:37 PM
#53:


XIII_rocks posted...
SuperNiceDog posted...

SSBM's counter-rally was one yes. A rally does not have to translate into a win.


My hesitance there was more because it was a counter-rally, a reactive attempt to stop UT, rather than a separate UT-style rally.


Was it created to counter UT ? As far as I remember, it seemed relatively independant and I remember most of Board 8 being against it (for killing CT).
And many cheered when UT beat Melee for that reason too.
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SuperNiceDog
11/04/18 3:59:14 PM
#54:


DeepsPraw posted...
SuperNiceDog posted...
yea... why the heck is there still poll of the day going?


Yeah, between this and the contest vote form completely disappearing off the main page after you vote, this contest just doesn't feel like a big deal.


the disappearing is so bad thanks for pointing that out... it's almost an example of our culture today. How you don't want to offend anyone with your vote, that "im so sorry I'll be quick, sorry, sorry, sorry ok bye", "oh excuse me I don't want to bother you and you're probably really busy and stuff but... can I have your number? Ok no problem sorry for bothering you, good bye". How it's about being as least offensive as possible, as careful and safe as possible.
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XIII_rocks
11/04/18 4:00:22 PM
#55:


What in god's name
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SuperNiceDog
11/04/18 4:02:51 PM
#56:


If anything, Allen should have an option to SHARE who you voted for on facebook/twitter/snapchat/instagram. BE PROUD of who you voted for.

Instead the vote just dissappears and you forgot if you even voted at all.
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LeonhartFour
11/04/18 4:04:33 PM
#57:


There used to be an option to share on social media, but I'm guessing Allen checked the numbers and saw it made no discernible difference.
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SuperNiceDog
11/04/18 4:09:45 PM
#58:


LeonhartFour posted...
There used to be an option to share on social media, but I'm guessing Allen checked the numbers and saw it made no discernible difference.


Was it for the 2013 character battle?
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LeonhartFour
11/04/18 4:10:17 PM
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ZeldaTPLink
11/04/18 4:14:07 PM
#60:


SuperNiceDog posted...
the disappearing is so bad thanks for pointing that out... it's almost an example of our culture today. How you don't want to offend anyone with your vote, that "im so sorry I'll be quick, sorry, sorry, sorry ok bye", "oh excuse me I don't want to bother you and you're probably really busy and stuff but... can I have your number? Ok no problem sorry for bothering you, good bye". How it's about being as least offensive as possible, as careful and safe as possible.


This is not why the rally people disappear between matches.

They disappear because they have no interest in becoming site regulars. At best they just come because they want to help their character win somewhere. At worst they want to troll us.
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SuperNiceDog
11/04/18 4:19:09 PM
#61:


XYJyWKs

OHicgzg

This is what the site looked like during the 2015 Best Game Ever contest. Didn't see a social media option to share.

And it's especially damming since social media has gotten so much bigger in even 3 years.

Also, there was a huge paragraph on the main page "Today on Gamefaqs" dedicated to the contest, hyping it up.
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AxemRedRanger
11/04/18 4:19:13 PM
#62:


Averia posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
swordz9 posted...
Didnt it already happen in the past with Mario and Crono and stuff?


spoken like someone who wasn't here

the reaction to Mario/Crono II was insane


Was it has bad as Link/Shepard/Draven ? Worse ?

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWinsBoard.jpg

and then this:

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWins.jpg

There's also that one great classic picture about the match but I haven't been able to find it. I don't see it linked on any of the obvious pages on the board 8 wikia and it's not in ngamer's archive for the 2003 contest.
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Accel_R8
11/04/18 4:20:45 PM
#63:


Isn't nothing actually stopping "rallies" from happening? As I understand it Gamefaqs users made before the contest just get doubled votes. That doesn't stop like 15,000 redditors flooding in to rally, right?
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XIII_rocks
11/04/18 4:20:56 PM
#64:


LeonhartFour posted...
There used to be an option to share on social media, but I'm guessing Allen checked the numbers and saw it made no discernible difference.


Yeah I noticed that was gone

Could also have been a part of his anti-rally crusade this time around. Idk.
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LeonhartFour
11/04/18 4:21:33 PM
#65:


AxemRedRanger posted...
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWinsBoard.jpg

and then this:

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioWins.jpg

There's also that one great classic picture about the match but I haven't been able to find it. I don't see it linked on any of the obvious pages on the board 8 wikia and it's not in ngamer's archive for the 2003 contest.


the two topic titles that always make me smile are "Heroic Mario just laid his seed in his pants" and MWIS's "I'm leaving GameFAQs."

also:

fM4Kxos
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XIII_rocks
11/04/18 4:24:58 PM
#66:


LeonhartFour posted...
the two topic titles that always make me smile are "Heroic Mario just laid his seed in his pants" and MWIS's "I'm leaving GameFAQs."


I'm personally a big fan of "GG CHEATING of the century"
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HotDogButts
11/04/18 4:57:46 PM
#67:


Less to do with rallies and more to do with how the contest is being promoted. The homepage should have a larger / more prominent graphic to draw people into voting, and the small little drop-down we have now should be popping up on every page you visit as a header until you cast your vote. It's too easy to ignore on the homepage, and most people that come here aren't entering through the homepage.
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Ngamer64
11/04/18 5:33:05 PM
#68:


Maybe your Contest enjoyment rating would double if you listened to all the fun we're having discussing this unrallied bracket on The Show!


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SuperNiceDog
11/04/18 6:26:23 PM
#69:


Ngamer64 posted...
Maybe your Contest enjoyment rating would double if you listened to all the fun we're having discussing this unrallied bracket on The Show!



standin in line to see the show tonighttttttt
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 5:23:42 PM
#70:


lets pray for more rallies
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hombad46
11/05/18 5:46:49 PM
#71:


Only rally I want now is a Kirby rally
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redrocket
11/05/18 5:49:50 PM
#72:


Time for the Crono rally.
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snake_5036
11/05/18 5:57:00 PM
#73:


good post op
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 6:00:02 PM
#74:


snake_5036 posted...
good post op


thanks man! Contest has not been good so far. Enthusiasm is low...
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garetha200
11/05/18 6:22:15 PM
#75:


ugh if you're not having fun with this internet thing please find another internet thing to have fun with instead of making topics like these

Also there really wasn't anything interesting about the Undertale rallies, it was pretty clear it was going to dominate the afternoon vote every round after ME3 and shockingly it dominated every afternoon vote
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Lightning Strikes
11/05/18 6:23:11 PM
#76:


1) This is true of every contest. Round 1 here actually had more close matches than in 2010 I believe. If this is arguing for anything, it's 12 hour matches.

2) No it hasn't. Donkey Kong just beat Leon Kennedy. Come on man.

3) First, your maths are off. Second, even without double votes votals are up considerably. A fraction of what they were but not bad. And compared to PotD numbers, amazing.

4) Nothing stopping people rallying. The problem is no close enough matches have involved good rally material. But hey, maybe you could get Lady Gaga to rally for Bayonetta over twitter, she's a fan.

5) GameFAQs's problems are nothing to do with this contest. This is the most engaged people have been with the site in years.

I'm not staunchly anti-rally (screw Draven forever though) but the idea that a contest needs them to be fun is laughable.
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 6:30:39 PM
#77:


hombad46 posted...
Only rally I want now is a Kirby rally


that would so cool
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 6:36:54 PM
#78:


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This is how you can tell excitement is low and why we need rallies. Are any of these topics on the first page of the board DIRECTLY addressing the match results of today? Like why is Pikachu winning or why is Velvet losing??? Fans of either side.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/05/18 6:38:08 PM
#79:


It's easy to pick a less interesting day among others and use it as an example to shoot down the entire contest.

Like, Div 3 is being discussed everywhere.
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snake_5036
11/05/18 6:39:21 PM
#80:


You gotta switch to 50 posts per page, it's a much better experience instead of going through 30+ pages in a big topic
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Pirateking2000
11/05/18 6:48:38 PM
#81:


Rallies are definitely more entertaining. Shame nothing really got kindled this time around. I'd totally be up for a Savior of Smash Kirby rally at least so long as we don't get the uneventful series of stomps that we seem to be getting set up for again.

Alternatively I wonder if a contest made solely for new characters (like premiere only allowed after a certain date in a way so we don't get a roster associated with the usual giants to just take the votes in their stead) could potentially be entertaining
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ZeldaTPLink
11/05/18 7:09:01 PM
#83:


SuperNiceDog posted...


another example, in the first 5 min on a day with a debated match(red vs sora), no one even cares on the BOARD 8 DISCORD.


Stop lying. I'm in there right now and there's a post every 5 seconds.
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 7:09:40 PM
#84:


ZeldaTPLink posted...
SuperNiceDog posted...


another example, in the first 5 min on a day with a debated match(red vs sora), no one even cares on the BOARD 8 DISCORD.


Stop lying. I'm in there right now and there's a post every 5 seconds.


Oh right, I was in Board 8 not CBX sorry.
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garetha200
11/05/18 7:10:03 PM
#85:


because this isn't the channel of the discord that discusses contest matches

please do not spread false news, the cbx channel was definitely discussing the match
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 7:10:40 PM
#86:


garetha200 posted...
because this isn't the channel of the discord that discusses contest matches

please do not spread false news, the cbx channel was definitely discussing the match


yea you're right, I was in the wrong channel. But still, imagine a new person coming into the discord for the first time. They'd be in the main channel and be a little surprised by the lack of discussion.
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LeonhartFour
11/05/18 7:11:13 PM
#87:


SuperNiceDog's credibility destroyed because of fake news SAD
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SuperNiceDog
11/05/18 7:15:35 PM
#88:


LeonhartFour posted...
SuperNiceDog's credibility destroyed because of fake news SAD


I am fake news.
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Raka_Putra
11/07/18 8:57:56 PM
#89:


What the...
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Haste_2
11/07/18 9:07:39 PM
#90:


I'm fine with rallies as long as people rally Squall to win over Zelda, as well as rallying Mega Man to the championship!

Otherwise, forget it.
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LeonhartFour
11/07/18 11:02:59 PM
#91:


Haste_2 posted...
I'm fine with rallies as long as people rally Squall to win over Zelda


no
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VeryInsane
11/07/18 11:05:26 PM
#92:


Honestly theres enough surprises this contest that its been fun without the rallies

So many franchises declining plus Nintendo dominance
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ExThaNemesis
11/10/18 1:24:23 AM
#93:


Bump
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INTERWEBUSER
11/10/18 1:38:47 AM
#94:


VeryInsane posted...
Nintendo dominance

no it's stupid.
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STEROLIZER
11/10/18 1:40:35 AM
#95:


I'll get Ed Boon to tweet during Sub-Zero's match against Auron.
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SuperNiceDog
11/10/18 1:40:37 AM
#96:


still need rallies. Contest has been boring.
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SuperNiceDog
11/10/18 1:41:12 AM
#97:


STEROLIZER posted...
I'll get Ed Boon to tweet during Sub-Zero's match against Auron.


YEAA!!!! that's one hope
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LeonhartFour
11/10/18 1:44:37 AM
#98:


SuperNiceDog disappointed that post-election riots haven't materialized to make Bayonetta stronger than Link
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SuperNiceDog
11/10/18 1:47:07 AM
#99:


LeonhartFour posted...
SuperNiceDog disappointed that post-election riots haven't materialized to make Bayonetta stronger than Link


that would be amazing if it happened.
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LusterSoldier
11/10/18 10:04:02 PM
#100:


SuperNiceDog posted...
If anything, Allen should have an option to SHARE who you voted for on facebook/twitter/snapchat/instagram. BE PROUD of who you voted for.

Instead the vote just dissappears and you forgot if you even voted at all.


I remember that was an option (only an option to share on Twitter) for both contests in 2010, but it was removed as an option later contests.

Lightning Strikes posted...
3) First, your maths are off. Second, even without double votes votals are up considerably. A fraction of what they were but not bad. And compared to PotD numbers, amazing.


Compared to our vote totals prior to the start of the contest, this contest is getting almost twice as many raw votes (before factoring in the registered user bonus).

The vote totals of the PotD have taken a slight decrease during this contest. It appears that the presence of the contest matches have reduced the PotD vote totals by around 9%, which isn't a huge decrease at all. The PotD is slightly less visible on the homepage due to the contest matches pushing them farther down on the homepage.
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SuperNiceDog
11/11/18 12:22:53 AM
#101:


No rallies would have been fine in 2006, not now though. It's just sad not have rallies at this point.
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