Board 8 > Man Super Mario Bros 2 is HARD

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Just got past the second world, and I have no idea how kids beat this without 500 lives.

Really enjoying it so far though... Puzzle platforming done right.
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It was the only Mario game I could never beat as a kid.
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Its pretty obviously Japan SMB2

but i still want to ask

which one?
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Punnyz posted...

Its pretty obviously Japan SMB2

but i still want to ask

which one?

SMB2 from All-Stars (Doki Doki)

Maybe I just suck at this kind of game, but this is like 300x more challenging than the proper 2D Marios imo
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oh that game? Which character are you using?
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The only of the four All Stars game I beat was SMB1, and it was about 2 years ago.

These games are hard, man.

It was the only nes Mario game I COULD beat.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

oh that game? Which character are you using?

I'm rotating them each world

And it's not so much that SMB2 is difficult per se, but so many of the obstacles take serious trial and error to the point where you're running out of lives and restarting every 15 minutes.
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Japanese SMB2 is a gajillion million times harder
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HarrietTubgirl posted...

And it's not so much that SMB2 is difficult per se, but so many of the obstacles take serious trial and error to the point where you're running out of lives and restarting every 15 minutes.

This is stereotyping, but you realize that this is how you market to Japanese children
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For real though, it was meant to be this way

So many people had mastered SMB1, and Nintendo needed to market the successor to the Famicom, the Famicom Disk System

So while Miyamoto was designing Zelda 1 for the launch, another team was just cranking out a tough-as-nails Mario 1 romhack to go with it.
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jcgamer107 posted...

Japanese SMB2 is a gajillion million times harder

Well duh

From the advice I've been given, it's not even worth playing
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Jakyl25 posted...

HarrietTubgirl posted...

And it's not so much that SMB2 is difficult per se, but so many of the obstacles take serious trial and error to the point where you're running out of lives and restarting every 15 minutes.

This is stereotyping, but you realize that this is how you market to Japanese children

The older I get, the less like a Japanese child I feel :(
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LOL from Wikipedia

Commercials for The Lost Levels in Japan featured players failing at the game and screaming in frustration at their television.

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Just to reiterate, this topic is NOT about the Lost Levels.

US SMB2 is not easy!!
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Jakyl25 posted...

LOL from Wikipedia

Commercials for The Lost Levels in Japan featured players failing at the game and screaming in frustration at their television.

that would entice me tbh
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HarrietTubgirl posted...

Just to reiterate, this topic is NOT about the Lost Levels.

US SMB2 is not easy!!

Wait what?

I honestly did not get that this was about US SMB2
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Yup

It's pretty tough
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I agree that SMB2(US) isn't easy. I've only beaten it once and that was when I was a child and just played it over and over again getting used to everything.
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Meh, SMB2 isn't too bad, it's the type of game that one simply needs to adapt and get used to and then you shouldn't have too much problem with it.

Now The Lost Levels on the other hand, that's a different story.
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I still have no idea who birdo is and why she's guarding every stage!
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Really? You're having trouble with SMB2? I guess if you don't play many games, but dang...

Mario 2 is pretty easy for an NES game, mostly because Peach's float lets her cheese most levels, though it's probably harder than most games released these days.

I do remember beating it to impress my friends back then so even a low difficulty NES game was a triumph to us kids.
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SMB2 is reasonably tough though yeah there are many harder NES games.

But I'm pretty sure I consider it harder than every Mario released after 1990 for instance. (Hard to compare the 3D games directly of course.)
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If you're bad at the slot machine I can see SMB2 being somewhat difficult. I feel like I die a decent amount in it but it has the Kirby problem of too many extra lives.

Like it's definitely tougher for me than SMB1 not considering the easy supply of lives available to you.
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Luigi stomps most of the obstacles

I remember that game. It was a nightmare until someone told me that you can pick up Birdo's eggs and throw them back at the thing.
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Lopen posted...

I feel like I die a decent amount in it but it has the Kirby problem of too many extra lives.

Dafuq?? Are we even playing the same game here?
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In the GBA version (and maybe All-Stars? I forget)you can pretty easily manipulate the slots, but in the NES version its way too fast to easily farm lives.
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I feel like if you're aggressive with getting coins you can get 1+ 1-ups per level on average pretty easily even on the NES, which is plenty to get a pretty good stockpile. But it's been a long time since I've played it on the NES so perhaps I'm mistaken.
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Mario doesn't think so, the game puts him to sleep.
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SMB2 USA is pretty tough (sort of...it's definitely more tricky than the other 2D Mario games atleast.) I agree, but Japan SMB2 is definitely way harder.

The only real thing that's tough about Mario 2 USA are the physics.

Physics are fucking awkward as hell and incredibly slippery....Coming to Mario 2 USA after playing World, Mario 3, and Yoshi's Island SNES is very jarring.

original Doki Doki Panic is a bit harder too, because theres no run button. Makes jumps harder and also makes some skips that Luigi and Peach can do in the USA version impossible
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Doki Doki Panic is also harder because you need to beat every level with all 4 people to truly beat it
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True, but you have unlimited continues and you can save progress. Just makes it more time-consuming.
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Yeah it's not the platforming or anything that's hard, it's the repetition required

Still really enjoying this game though
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my AV cords got fucked up so needed to order new ones

hopefully it's not the system itself since that would be quite annoying
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I always only used Toad.
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Samurai7 posted...

I always only used Toad.

Is that even possible on some levels?
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you can use any character on any level
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Toad nation represent

On second thought I may actually have a skewed opinion of the difficulty (and how many extra lives you get) due to always using Toad. He makes the platforming relatively tougher than Princess or Luigi and also allows you to get more slot coins
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Don't you get a secret ending or something when you beat Lost Levels without using pipes or something
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Obviously SMB3 is better, but I've always had a soft spot for SMB2. I think it's really underrated and I love how unique it is. It's a big nostalgia bomb for me.
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Punnyz posted...

Don't you get a secret ending or something when you beat Lost Levels without using pipes or something

Yeah you get bonus World 9 with some weird (but not harder) levels

Also theres more difficult Worlds A-D that get unlocked in the All Stars version just by beating World 8, but in the original...

In the Famicom Disk System version of Super Mario Bros. 2, the player must beat the game eight consecutive times and hold down the A button on the title screen in order to access World A, and in turn the other later worlds.

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Ultimately I find myself replaying SMB2 more than SMB3 so I think I prefer it all things considered, largely because of its uniqueness. SMB3, were I trying to be objective, is probably better, but if SMB2 didn't exist there'd be no replacement for me and SMB3 is done almost as well by like Super Mario World or even at a stretch Super Mario Bros 1 or Super Mario Land 2 in a lot of ways. Mostly Super Mario World though.
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I don't really consider SMW because my family never had an SNES so I never really connected with it. I remember playing it at my cousins house a few times and thinking it was really good though.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Punnyz posted...

Don't you get a secret ending or something when you beat Lost Levels without using pipes or something

Yeah you get bonus World 9 with some weird (but not harder) levels

Also theres more difficult Worlds A-D that get unlocked in the All Stars version just by beating World 8, but in the original...

In the Famicom Disk System version of Super Mario Bros. 2, the player must beat the game eight consecutive times and hold down the A button on the title screen in order to access World A, and in turn the other later worlds.

Lmfao what
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That sounds like a schoolyard rumor on how to unlock the Hadouken
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