Current Events > Apparently the iPhone XR is dramatically under-performing expectations
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DarkRoast 11/05/18 2:27:55 PM #1: |
https://gizmodo.com/maybe-people-like-the-home-button-1830224289/amp
There are several theories: that people miss the home button, that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price, that nobody wants to buy "second best" with Apple products, etc. I'd say it's probably a combination of the latter two. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvalAngell 11/05/18 2:28:32 PM #2: |
i absolutely miss the home button. Tired of this 100% touch screen bullshit. Give me some buttons. Yes they get stuck over time and stop working but at least the phone knows when I'm trying to exit.
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UnfairRepresent 11/05/18 2:29:56 PM #3: |
DarkRoast posted...
that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price lol --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 11/05/18 2:30:53 PM #4: |
DarkRoast posted...
that nobody wants to buy "second best" with Apple products Psh, that never stopped the iPhone 5c. --- Washable toilet paper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 11/05/18 2:32:28 PM #5: |
Solid Sonic posted...
DarkRoast posted...that nobody wants to buy "second best" with Apple products Didn't they kill that off in one year --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 11/05/18 2:56:44 PM #6: |
DarkRoast posted...
Solid Sonic posted...DarkRoast posted...that nobody wants to buy "second best" with Apple products Did they? The iPhone 5 only lasted a year because of their whole "we can't have last year's tech looking like this year's; people will just cheap out and buy old tech too look trendy" philosophy that also applies to the X->Xs, hence the need for the Xr. The 5c lasted over two (released in 2013 and then revised and sold until early 2016). --- Washable toilet paper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 11/05/18 2:58:25 PM #8: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price In comparison, if you want a budget samsung, it'll run you as low as $100, and many carriers have deals to get it free. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 11/05/18 3:01:03 PM #9: |
OctilIery posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price To be fair, when has an iPhone ever been "cheap"? Even the 5c launched at $550. --- Washable toilet paper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/05/18 3:02:27 PM #10: |
OctilIery posted...
In comparison, if you want a budget samsung, it'll run you as low as $100, and many carriers have deals to get it free. My samsung phone was free with my contract (which I only pay like $20 a month for lol) --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 11/05/18 3:07:36 PM #11: |
Solid Sonic posted...
OctilIery posted...UnfairRepresent posted...DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price iPhone SE was $350 and came with a 4K camera, the A9 chip found in that same year's flagship, and all sorts of other new stuff. Samsungs may be cheaper, but hoo boy are they not better at the lower price point. I tried a $150 Galaxy Tab and weeks later I was doing anything to rid myself of it --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 11/05/18 3:21:42 PM #12: |
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Solid Sonic posted...OctilIery posted...UnfairRepresent posted...DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price The J3 and J7 are very solid phones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alpha218 11/05/18 3:27:39 PM #13: |
I see youre just as passionate about phones as ever
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Solid Sonic 11/05/18 3:28:16 PM #14: |
I joined the iOS ecosystem purely based on the breadth of available apps.
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ohnoitschris 11/05/18 3:32:57 PM #15: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price Remember when this shit was embarrassing:  $150 less and it was unabashedly sold as a "premium" console, the center of your entire home theater system, complete with Blu-ray support which was brand new at the time, with streaming HD video not even becoming a thing for the next 5-6 years or so And that made Sony a laughing stock for years and cost them the 7th console generation But Apple puts out a $750 "budget" phone, and nobody gives a shit. Wtf --- Join the Nintendo Fun Club today, Mac! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ohnoitschris 11/05/18 3:34:41 PM #16: |
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Solid Sonic posted...OctilIery posted...UnfairRepresent posted...DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price The Android Tablet Experience --- Join the Nintendo Fun Club today, Mac! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 11/05/18 3:36:46 PM #17: |
ohnoitschris posted...
cost them the 7th console generation Wat OctilIery posted... UnfairRepresent posted...DarkRoast posted...that $750 is not an appropriate "budget" price Is the XR not free in the US? It's only $100 on a plan in Canada and everyone's doing deals right now to get it not only for free but also additional credit. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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themasterpikmin 11/05/18 3:36:47 PM #18: |
I haven't had an issue with my XR yet, it has been a week and I don't miss the home button and everything seems intuitive.
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pikachupwnage 11/05/18 3:39:32 PM #19: |
DarkRoast posted...
nobody wants to buy "second best" with Apple products, So no one buys Apple products? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krojen 11/05/18 4:05:12 PM #20: |
Everyone and their grandmother in the tech community was so sure this was going to be a hit. It still may very well be, but I never understood the logic for its initial success given the 3 obvious theories you proposed.
"It looks the same/built similar to the more expensive model" But it also costs about the same. Who can afford 750 before tax, but not 999? That's what, an extra couple bucks on your monthly plan? And now you've gotta let everyone know you're using the cheaper model with these loud colors. They learned nothing from the 5c. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ohnoitschris 11/05/18 4:18:52 PM #21: |
Bio1590 posted...
ohnoitschris posted...cost them the 7th console generation 1. Xbox 360 did especially well in North America because of PS3's enormous price and terrible optics early on, and it was popular to talk about going full "Wii60", to express disgust and disappointment in the PS3 after the PS2 was such a giant success 2. I don't know about Canada, but phones in the USA are generally sold as a deal where you can either buy your phones upfront, or pay them off over two years while increasing your phone bill a certain amount. So like, you might see an ad for a $100 iPhone XR, but then your bill will increase by $27.09 for the next two years, because $650/24 = $27.083~ Discounts usually lower that upfront cost by some margin, but you'll still have to pay it off over time. --- Join the Nintendo Fun Club today, Mac! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 11/05/18 4:20:12 PM #22: |
It's kind of an absurd concept really.
I mean there are budget products, midrange products and high end products. What is this thing supposed to be? The budget portion of high end? It's like buying a Benz if they made a version that was defined by being less of a status symbol. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ohnoitschris 11/05/18 4:36:22 PM #23: |
Solid Sonic posted...
I joined the iOS ecosystem purely based on the breadth of available apps. What does iOS have at this point that Android doesn't? I went from an iPhone to an Android earlier in the year and other than a few games, I really haven't found anything that didn't have an Android equivalent --- Join the Nintendo Fun Club today, Mac! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 11/05/18 4:37:14 PM #24: |
Im talking about 2012. Ive just stuck with iOS since.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku 11/05/18 5:12:11 PM #25: |
This thing was never going to work at $750. That was flagship pricing up until last year, so no one is going to pay that much and not expect the very best. As someone said, if you're committed to spending $750, whats another couple hundred to get the XS?
What Apple should've done was update the SE (4.7" screen, Face ID, A10/A11) and sell it for $500. --- When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 11/05/18 5:22:17 PM #26: |
ohnoitschris posted...
2. I don't know about Canada, but phones in the USA are generally sold as a deal where you can either buy your phones upfront, or pay them off over two years while increasing your phone bill a certain amount. So like, you might see an ad for a $100 iPhone XR, but then your bill will increase by $27.09 for the next two years, because $650/24 = $27.083~ It works the same in Canada which is why I'm asking. The 64 GB XR is $1029 straight up and $99.00 up front on a plan (so literally $38.75 of your bill per month is the phone) is why I didn't understand why it wouldn't be free in the US if there's that drastic of a price difference. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 11/05/18 5:43:40 PM #27: |
Most people who wanted the X already have it or the XS
The XR is good hardware but at that price point most people just sprung for the XS instead. Nobody was really waiting for this phone before they announced it --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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