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CableZL
11/08/18 11:48:53 AM
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940 Mbps down, 35 Mbps up

God damn it, Spectrum...
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BLAKUboy
11/08/18 11:53:21 AM
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They never said anyone would actually get those speeds.
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glitteringfairy
11/08/18 11:54:01 AM
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Lol anybody not using Hughes Net Gen 5 is a scrub
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monkmith
11/08/18 11:54:24 AM
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its always been marketing bullshit. started when they insisted on using bits instead of bytes to measure speed.
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kingdrake2
11/08/18 11:54:46 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Lol anybody not using Hughes Net Gen 5 is a scrub


if anyone wants to live in hell using that be our guest.
i'm not living in the sticks ever again. fuck that.
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Tyranthraxus
11/08/18 11:56:33 AM
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monkmith posted...
its always been marketing bullshit. started when they insisted on using bits instead of bytes to measure speed.


honestly it's better to use bits.

Trying to explain to the average person that a megabyte is not 1 million bytes is a lost cause as evidenced by all the "WHY IZ MY 60 GIG PSTHREE HAVE LESS THAN 60 GIGZ?!?!?"
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CableZL
11/08/18 11:59:14 AM
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monkmith posted...
its always been marketing bullshit. started when they insisted on using bits instead of bytes to measure speed.


Bits is the proper way to measure network speeds. It's not marketing. We've been through this in a prior conversation.
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monkmith
11/08/18 11:59:15 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
monkmith posted...
its always been marketing bullshit. started when they insisted on using bits instead of bytes to measure speed.


honestly it's better to use bits.

Trying to explain to the average person that a megabyte is not 1 million bytes is a lost cause as evidenced by all the "WHY IZ MY 60 GIG PSTHREE HAVE LESS THAN 60 GIGZ?!?!?"

everything else uses bytes, they choose to use bits because the numbers are bigger...
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CableZL
11/08/18 11:59:51 AM
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monkmith posted...
everything else uses bytes, they choose to use bits because the numbers are bigger...

No, storage levels use bytes. Network speeds use bits.
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CableZL
11/08/18 12:05:13 PM
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mIIIFdf

Youtube's "stats for nerds" feature, for example, uses bits.

When you're streaming video, it isn't done for the purpose of storing it on your hard drive, so bits is the proper measurement.

When you're downloading a file, you're doing it for the purpose of storing on your hard drive, so bytes per second is the measurement used.
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monkmith
11/08/18 12:09:37 PM
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CableZL posted...
monkmith posted...
everything else uses bytes, they choose to use bits because the numbers are bigger...

No, storage levels use bytes. Network speeds use bits.

you realize that marketing in all industries convert to units of measurement that a consumer is more likely to be comfortable with right? there's a reason that americans dont see their food sold in grams and their temperatures reported in celsius. you cant tell me that the average consumer isn't more comfortable with bytes over bits, or that the only reason internet companies report their speeds in Mb instead of MB is that they want to stick with correct units...

its just more marketing bullshit, they know the average consumer is too stupid to differentiate between Mb and MB.
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CableZL
11/08/18 12:15:16 PM
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Throughput levels on network devices are also measured in bits per second and sometimes additionally packets per second.

Ethernet cable speed capabilities are measured in bits per second. 10/100/1000 is all megabits per second.

Wifi speed levels are measured in bits per second. If you have Windows laptop that is wifi capable and you look at the status of the adapter while it's connected:

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Bits per second here as well, because it's purely referring to network speeds. It isn't marketing, nor is it deceptive.
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CableZL
11/08/18 12:15:56 PM
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monkmith posted...
you realize that marketing in all industries convert to units of measurement that a consumer is more likely to be comfortable with right? there's a reason that americans dont see their food sold in grams and their temperatures reported in celsius. you cant tell me that the average consumer isn't more comfortable with bytes over bits, or that the only reason internet companies report their speeds in Mb instead of MB is that they want to stick with correct units...

its just more marketing bulls***, they know the average consumer is too stupid to differentiate between Mb and MB.


You have a fundamental misunderstanding that you refuse to get over. We've had an extended conversation about this before. It has nothing to do with marketing. Bits per second is the proper way to express network speeds. Period.

Hard drive storage levels are shown in bytes.
Network speed levels are shown in bits.

The idea that "everything else uses bytes" is blatantly false as I have shown you. Whether you want to accept that or not is on you.
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