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Two_Dee
11/08/18 2:27:31 PM
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I have just been hearing of this term recently and I'm unsure of the mechanisms behind it
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cellb
11/08/18 2:29:44 PM
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You take some gas, and then you light it up
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matty_s
11/08/18 2:30:13 PM
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You fart on a flame
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Stewman_Magoo
11/08/18 2:32:17 PM
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When someone denies the truth even though the truth is public knowledge and can't be denied.

Ex. Trump's entire Presidency
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Guide
11/08/18 2:33:44 PM
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Say you hit your girlfriend because you were drunk and are also an asshole. Later, you claim it was because she's constantly putting you down and insulting your mother or somesuch. You insist aggressively, until she doubts her own memory and starts to think that maybe you're right, and that she doesn't realize that she's been an awful person.

You're lying and emotionally manipulating someone to fuck with their memory. That's gaslighting.
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MACisBack
11/08/18 2:34:28 PM
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Flip your legs over your head, light a match, and rip a big fart.
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Antifar
11/08/18 2:35:04 PM
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It doesn't. You just think it does because...okay, I'm done with this joke.
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Two_Dee
11/08/18 2:36:52 PM
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is it like mindbreak hentai?
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GaryGaryGary
11/08/18 2:43:52 PM
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Guide posted...
Say you hit your girlfriend because you were drunk and are also an asshole. Later, you claim it was because she's constantly putting you down and insulting your mother or somesuch. You insist aggressively, until she doubts her own memory and starts to think that maybe you're right, and that she doesn't realize that she's been an awful person.

You're lying and emotionally manipulating someone to fuck with their memory. That's gaslighting.


How do people do that on the internet then?

How are people victims of it on the internet?
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CableZL
11/08/18 2:46:13 PM
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GaryGaryGary posted...
How do people do that on the internet then?

How are people victims of it on the internet?


Trump says a false statement on Twitter
- people believe it

Trump calls a factual report fake news on Twitter
- people believe it's fake news
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Guide
11/08/18 2:47:36 PM
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GaryGaryGary posted...
Guide posted...
Say you hit your girlfriend because you were drunk and are also an asshole. Later, you claim it was because she's constantly putting you down and insulting your mother or somesuch. You insist aggressively, until she doubts her own memory and starts to think that maybe you're right, and that she doesn't realize that she's been an awful person.

You're lying and emotionally manipulating someone to fuck with their memory. That's gaslighting.


How do people do that on the internet then?

How are people victims of it on the internet?


Person to person? I don't know. On a meta level, frequent enough lies will propagate.
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Tyranthraxus
11/08/18 2:50:09 PM
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In the most broadest definition possible, you convince someone of falsehoods by repeatedly lying to them, or denying that what they are telling you is the truth when it actually is.

This is most commonly brought up in the context of abusive relationships due to how the abusive partner manages to con their way through it.

I'd have never done that while sober/I'll never do it again/you hit me first/etc
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A_Good_Boy
11/08/18 2:51:30 PM
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Gaslighting is what happens when Hypnocoosh and SageHarpuia tell you that they're not racist and all of the vitriol they routinely post about black people is all in your head.
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hollow_shrine
11/08/18 2:51:44 PM
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Two_Dee posted...
is it like mindbreak hentai?

Yeah, it's very much like having your mind broken by hentai. Once you had standards and would never have allowed such low quality filth to eat up your time let alone scintillate you. You were a man of taste and good breeding. But you slipped and hentai's creeping influence has poisoned your memories. You forgave shitty animation and derivative plots propped up by even less original characters, because surely it wasn't all like this. But then you stopped noticing the sound design beyond the mostly awful voice acting work, which you also handwaved.

Now you can no longer remember a time when your taste wasn't trash. You've fallen to base hedonism and turpitude. You'll accept anything anime gives you because you've forgotten what it means to love oneself. The process by which hentai destroyed everything that mattered to you, is gaslighting.
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Space_Man
11/08/18 2:52:47 PM
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It's when you're a pathological liar towards someone - to the point that they believe your lies to be true. You then deny ever lying and say the situation was completely the opposite.

It's basically super fucked up and almost psychotic reverse psychology.
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GaryGaryGary
11/08/18 2:52:49 PM
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Guide posted...
GaryGaryGary posted...
Guide posted...
Say you hit your girlfriend because you were drunk and are also an asshole. Later, you claim it was because she's constantly putting you down and insulting your mother or somesuch. You insist aggressively, until she doubts her own memory and starts to think that maybe you're right, and that she doesn't realize that she's been an awful person.

You're lying and emotionally manipulating someone to fuck with their memory. That's gaslighting.


How do people do that on the internet then?

How are people victims of it on the internet?


Person to person? I don't know. On a meta level, frequent enough lies will propagate.


Genuinely curious because there is another thread knocking about today asking if it should be a moddable offense on here.

Is anyone likely to admit they could be a victim of 'gaslighting' by another member of the gamefaq community?
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Two_Dee
11/08/18 2:53:05 PM
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i meant the genre
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prettyprincess
11/08/18 2:53:56 PM
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Two_Dee posted...
is it like mindbreak hentai?

I wish
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hollow_shrine
11/08/18 2:56:06 PM
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Two_Dee posted...
i meant the genre

I'm too dignified to know what that is. Is my description not enough?
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Two_Dee
11/08/18 2:56:31 PM
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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 3:01:57 PM
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. " - A truly terrible man.

That's gaslighting on a large scale, but it works just as well on the personal level. Just boldly and persistently telling a lie in the face of the truth in an attempt to make the victim question their own legitimacy or understanding of something.
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Guide
11/08/18 3:04:34 PM
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GaryGaryGary posted...
Guide posted...
GaryGaryGary posted...
Guide posted...
Say you hit your girlfriend because you were drunk and are also an asshole. Later, you claim it was because she's constantly putting you down and insulting your mother or somesuch. You insist aggressively, until she doubts her own memory and starts to think that maybe you're right, and that she doesn't realize that she's been an awful person.

You're lying and emotionally manipulating someone to fuck with their memory. That's gaslighting.


How do people do that on the internet then?

How are people victims of it on the internet?


Person to person? I don't know. On a meta level, frequent enough lies will propagate.


Genuinely curious because there is another thread knocking about today asking if it should be a moddable offense on here.

Is anyone likely to admit they could be a victim of 'gaslighting' by another member of the gamefaq community?


I saw that topic, and none of the accusers or accused made any sense in the slightest.
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Middle hope
11/08/18 3:05:47 PM
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Just take and hide peoples shit or slightly rearrange things to make them think they are going crazy.
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brestugo
11/08/18 3:12:47 PM
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@Two_Dee

The term comes from a movie where a guy made his wife think she was crazy in part by dimming a gas light and telling her "no, the light is exactly the same".

He'd do things, lie about them, turn issues around and play all kinds of head games to make his wife think what was actually happening was not and what hadn't happened did.
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CyricZ
11/08/18 3:15:05 PM
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TC, we told you already how gaslighting works. Don't you remember? God.
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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 3:31:43 PM
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CyricZ posted...
TC, we told you already how gaslighting works. Don't you remember? God.

I really wonder how many times he's going to make this same topic...
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