Poll of the Day > Michelle Obama reveals daughters were conceived though IVF

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HelIWithoutSin posted...

OhhhJa posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

What do you think the p**** grabbing tape was about?

We were talking about how he acts now. Not how he acted prior to taking office

Like when he said last year and stressed that Kirsten Gillibrand would do anything for him for his campaign contributions?

Sounded more like a comment on her being desperate rather than him being a sex god

OhhhJa posted...

Sounded more like a comment on her being desperate rather than him being a sex god

It's both. He's demeaning her and elevating himself as in control and in power. He didn't have to insinuate whoring herself out to him at all. The begging part was more than enough to put his point across that she was desperate. Adding that she's a whore puts himself in a position of sexual dominance.
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Zeus posted...

There have been at least a few articles dissecting the "just a comedian" excuse that Jon Stewart and his ilk falls behind when challenged. Like it or not, guys like Stewart and Oliver *are* media rather than just comedians. Colbert was somewhat more of a gray area, but he still ran a news program until leaving it for a late night show host which is more in the comedy camp.

....you're not seriously calling The Colbert Report a "News Program", are you? Because it was even less of a news show than his current gig.

Again, these guys are not trying - and never have tried - to inform or educate, they're trying to make people laugh. That's what separates them from actual news shows.They're not trying to give the most accurate representation of the day's stories, they're trying to give the funniest representation of them.

OhhhJa posted...

Be that as it may, they are pretty much strictly politically based shows.

Well yeah, there's obviously a partisan bent there and no one would deny that. But, again, it's comedy - if you're providing your opinion, rather than reporting the news, you're allowed to be as partisan as you please. Fox News has a bunch of people doing the same, just minus the comedic angle.

OhhhJa posted...

Its basically just like any other news outlet with comedy sprinkled in

It's not news, though - that's the entire point that I'm trying to get across. News is an attempt to report the facts of current events, as accurately and without bias as reasonably possible. At best you could say they're akin to an editorial or opinion piece, but even then it's a strained comparison given that editorials are usually done with the idea of expounding on and/or adding context to the news.

OhhhJa posted...

That's cool and all but dont pretend that either side is above insults and mocking people because clearly they arent

I've never pretended this is true, because it plainly isn't, especially in this day and age. That's like arguing that only one side's voters are violent - it's simple not true (and a dangerous view to hold, I might add).

Honestly, I don't really have a problem with rank-and-file people lobbing insults at each other. It happens, it's often classless, but harmlessly so and we move on afterwards. I do think that elected officials - especially those in as high a position as Trump - should be above such pettiness, and I hope that particular trend dies (or at least diminishes) with his presidency, but this is the world we live in right now...
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