Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia - CHAPTER 4: The Lying Tactician

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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 11:51:14 AM
#101:


Day Hider
Doctor Jack
Cop
Angry Video Game Nerd
Inventor
1-time Nexus
Sleepwalker
Death voter

Scum
Scum
Scum
Scum
(possible 5th Scum)

Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
(possible 6th vanilla)

If everyone who has claimed a power so far is Town, then a Tracker claim on the remaining unclaimed (guessing that they all went nowhere or if one or more is Scum) isn't too risky. Tracker also has some weird interplay with Corrik's ability, but in this set-up could work as a Scum role.

Need Johnbobb to claim but I don't really buy Sheep here. Too much setting up this attack on me, too little going on with those scans.

IGCD, would like a claim from you too, or else I'm going to admit I was LYING and say I scanned you Scum instead!
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IfGodCouldDie
11/11/18 11:51:42 AM
#102:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
That sure is a safe list of results.

IGCD please claim.

I'll same time with JB
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htaeD
11/11/18 11:52:06 AM
#103:


What the hell is that last sentence.
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IfGodCouldDie
11/11/18 11:52:34 AM
#104:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Day Hider
Doctor Jack
Cop
Angry Video Game Nerd
Inventor
1-time Nexus
Sleepwalker
Death voter

Scum
Scum
Scum
Scum
(possible 5th Scum)

Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
(possible 6th vanilla)

If everyone who has claimed a power so far is Town, then a Tracker claim on the remaining unclaimed (guessing that they all went nowhere or if one or more is Scum) isn't too risky. Tracker also has some weird interplay with Corrik's ability, but in this set-up could work as a Scum role.

Need Johnbobb to claim but I don't really buy Sheep here. Too much setting up this attack on me, too little going on with those scans.

IGCD, would like a claim from you too, or else I'm going to admit I was LYING and say I scanned you Scum instead!

Go for it, if you want to be lynched the following day.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 11:53:52 AM
#105:


htaeD posted...
What the hell is that last sentence.


A threat in jest.

A lot more awkward with IGCD ninjaing me with that vote though.

Hey Neab, can you give out a vig kill as a part of your contracts?
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Corrik
11/11/18 11:54:17 AM
#106:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
So I both got a scan off and was visited by Neab(supposedly) last night.

IGCD is Town.

And Neab was lying to us yesterday, at least partially. Don't think it's vote-worthy but he does need to come in here and give a little quip why.

Yeah no. There is no chance that you weren't roleblocked.
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IfGodCouldDie
11/11/18 11:56:04 AM
#107:


Corrik posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So I both got a scan off and was visited by Neab(supposedly) last night.

IGCD is Town.

And Neab was lying to us yesterday, at least partially. Don't think it's vote-worthy but he does need to come in here and give a little quip why.

Yeah no. There is no chance that you weren't roleblocked.

He was rb'd night 1 by Kanz, night 2 by a possible jack role block and we are day 4 right now or day 3?
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 11:57:33 AM
#108:


We are day 4.

Corrik posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So I both got a scan off and was visited by Neab(supposedly) last night.

IGCD is Town.

And Neab was lying to us yesterday, at least partially. Don't think it's vote-worthy but he does need to come in here and give a little quip why.

Yeah no. There is no chance that you weren't roleblocked.


Makes sense if I was expected to be killed last night, which currently seems to be the case.
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IfGodCouldDie
11/11/18 11:59:51 AM
#109:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
We are day 4.

Corrik posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So I both got a scan off and was visited by Neab(supposedly) last night.

IGCD is Town.

And Neab was lying to us yesterday, at least partially. Don't think it's vote-worthy but he does need to come in here and give a little quip why.

Yeah no. There is no chance that you weren't roleblocked.


Makes sense if I was expected to be killed last night, which currently seems to be the case.

Yea that makes sense actually. Fuck this is fucked. Because I could totally believe Kanz BG you if he believed you were town. But why wasnt Neab or Corrik roleblocked.
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benjamin3740
11/11/18 12:00:45 PM
#110:


NONSTOP DEBATE

[2] Neablis - Johnbobb, Death
[1] Death - Corrik
[1] IGCD - Sheep
[1] Han - IGCD

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Corrik
11/11/18 12:00:46 PM
#111:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
We are day 4.

Corrik posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So I both got a scan off and was visited by Neab(supposedly) last night.

IGCD is Town.

And Neab was lying to us yesterday, at least partially. Don't think it's vote-worthy but he does need to come in here and give a little quip why.

Yeah no. There is no chance that you weren't roleblocked.


Makes sense if I was expected to be killed last night, which currently seems to be the case.

Hmmm so you are saying kanz died bging you.

Do we get roleblocked messages if our roles isn't blocked?

Sheep I am concerned you aren't moreso going after me instead of Han. Our roles are closer in nature than yours and Hans. Hans and Chris' overlap a lot tho.

The only way Han is scum is if he sent the night 1 kill in and was blocked while also claiming cop with a bunch of unclaimed people while also knowing they had a godfather so a cop likely existed.
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:01:16 PM
#112:


If there is a ninja, then I can see scum trying to kill Han and not RBing.

Still doesnt explain where the RB went tho.
Or why Neab didnt target John.
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:03:27 PM
#113:


Didnd Ben state that people only get RB messages if they were actively blocked?
So someone like me would never get a message.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:04:35 PM
#114:


Corrik posted...
Do we get roleblocked messages if our roles isn't blocked?


Vanillas typically don't get notified of roleblock, so if you are unable to be roleblocked, you typically don't receive a message for it.

It makes sense that you would have taken the roleblock if there was one. I guess if Ben is the kind of host who only roleblocks targeted Night Actions, then that makes sense.
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:05:09 PM
#115:


Actually. Han is probably right. We know 2.people. visited Han. One of which is neablis. Another is unclaimed but since they have a ninja based on night 2 and sheep isn't claiming it or dyl (dyl didn't claim it right?) Then kanz had to of been the 2nd person who went to Han. Which means he ate Hans shot.

Unless they shot kanz directly.

There is another possibility tho.

Scum has a 1 shot ninja which they used night 1 on Han and was blocked. Neablis is scum who killed his target night 2 with a gift of death. Neablis then went night 3 to the kill target Han which has been claimed alrdy and kanz ate the kill but Han got the gift.
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:05:33 PM
#116:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Corrik posted...
Do we get roleblocked messages if our roles isn't blocked?


Vanillas typically don't get notified of roleblock, so if you are unable to be roleblocked, you typically don't receive a message for it.

It makes sense that you would have taken the roleblock if there was one. I guess if Ben is the kind of host who only roleblocks targeted Night Actions, then that makes sense.

My role is passive. I cannot be roleblocked. So, it is possible I was roleblocked last night.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:06:28 PM
#117:


Are you suggesting that Neab is a killer who also hands over a contract at the same time?
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:08:32 PM
#118:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Are you suggesting that Neab is a killer who also hands over a contract at the same time?

I am suggesting that he can give a gift or give give a gift coupled with death where if saved the gift goes through without the kill. Night 1 he didn't send it with death because they used their one shot ninja and for him to supposedly confirm as town.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:09:51 PM
#119:


Oh, you mean he can do his action AND kill the same night.
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:10:08 PM
#120:


Corrik posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Corrik posted...
Do we get roleblocked messages if our roles isn't blocked?


Vanillas typically don't get notified of roleblock, so if you are unable to be roleblocked, you typically don't receive a message for it.

It makes sense that you would have taken the roleblock if there was one. I guess if Ben is the kind of host who only roleblocks targeted Night Actions, then that makes sense.

My role is passive. I cannot be roleblocked. So, it is possible I was roleblocked last night.


Oh..
That could explain it.
Though since the idea was for you to target Han, it makes me think scum didnt want us to see how many players targeted Han..
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:10:34 PM
#121:


He went to the kill night 2. He most likely went to the kill night 3 also now with figuring out kanz probably bodyguarded Han and kanz ended up dead and without Han being roleblocked to support him being the kill.

Neablis is ending up at the night kill a lot. Question is. Why is he claiming it. Maybe he feared my role because they have a ninja so he thought he could be seen going somewhere.
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:11:58 PM
#122:


DYL didnt say anything. But I dont think he can choose to not visit someone...
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:12:23 PM
#123:


Doop didnt exactly put any effort into having neab lynched either in his gladiator and picked someone he likely wasn't going to get lynched anyways
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:13:29 PM
#124:


htaeD posted...
DYL didnt say anything. But I dont think he can choose to not visit someone...

Well, @Dark_Young_Link
Who did you visit last night? If you visited Han then all this is for nothing and my theory is blown
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:14:35 PM
#125:


Regardless of what Han is. Its still mighty suspicious that Neab gave the gift to Han tho
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:14:46 PM
#126:


htaeD posted...
DYL didnt say anything. But I dont think he can choose to not visit someone...


If he's Scum, he probably can!

Corrik posted...
Neablis is ending up at the night kill a lot. Question is. Why is he claiming it. Maybe he feared my role because they have a ninja so he thought he could be seen going somewhere.


This also lends a little more credence to Sheep.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:15:32 PM
#127:


htaeD posted...
Regardless of what Han is. Its still mighty suspicious that Neab gave the gift to Han tho


I don't want to claim what it is yet, but I am telling you that this is wrong and that the gift is not suspicious at all.
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:22:55 PM
#128:


Thats exactly what scum would say!
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htaeD
11/11/18 12:23:22 PM
#129:


(That was a joke, but also a true opinion)
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Neablis
11/11/18 12:32:24 PM
#130:


Listen I did not agree to the plan when it was set into action, I do not really believe I even commented on it. However I believe it was to be sent to John and I do not have a firm read on him currently either.

I fully believe han is town so I sent him my strongest ability. I did lie by omission by not stating all my options however I do not have a gun to give.

And also han if we have to reveal what item I gave you I will do it and you can confirm it yo.
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IfGodCouldDie
11/11/18 12:33:09 PM
#131:


Same time it
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Sheep007
11/11/18 12:33:16 PM
#132:


There is no reason to not say what item Han got
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Sheep007
11/11/18 12:33:41 PM
#133:


Also that should likely mean Neab and Han can't be scum together
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Neablis
11/11/18 12:34:34 PM
#134:


Fuck it I basically made h I'll m bulletproof if he votes dyl.

So we have han until at least tommorow
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:36:47 PM
#135:


Sheep007 posted...
There is no reason to not say what item Han got


This is not true either.

If I say anything that doesnt line up with what Neab knows, he can call me out on it. And if Neab claims anything that is different from what he gave me, I can call him out on it. But we don't need to reveal what it is just now.
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:38:39 PM
#136:


I am back to neablis being scum.
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HanOfTheNekos
11/11/18 12:40:15 PM
#137:


Aaaand now we can't hold onto that.

If I drew a shot last night, Scum probably would've tried to shoot me again. You shouldn't have come forward with that, Neab.
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Corrik
11/11/18 12:41:56 PM
#138:


Puns is flying way under the radar off his silly claim
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Sheep007
11/11/18 12:44:25 PM
#139:


I was pretty sure Puns was scum but I'm no longer convinced after the lack of action
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Neablis
11/11/18 12:59:37 PM
#140:


Meh, I think we at least should give Han the day to get one more scan off if they do not have a role blocker who can block anymore.

And sheep I am not sure why you would be less convinced at this point, if it is just the ninja for instance who is carrying kills its harder to catch the person right?
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htaeD
11/11/18 1:09:25 PM
#141:


If there is a scumninja, then the tracks are even less than helpful. Though Puns probably is not the scumRB
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Corrik
11/11/18 1:11:10 PM
#142:


Sheep007 posted...
I was pretty sure Puns was scum but I'm no longer convinced after the lack of action

On what night did he go nowhere?
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Sheep007
11/11/18 1:15:48 PM
#143:


Corrik posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I was pretty sure Puns was scum but I'm no longer convinced after the lack of action

On what night did he go nowhere?

Three.
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Sheep007
11/11/18 1:16:35 PM
#144:


Sure, a ninja would make it harder to find someone, but I struggle to believe that there isn't another scum role which is wanting to use night actions out there.
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Neablis
11/11/18 1:27:52 PM
#145:


Well we can say that John cannot be the RB/Jack from your checks sheep so that is something.

Could he be the ninja? Sure I suppose

That at least is some okish information...
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htaeD
11/11/18 1:29:27 PM
#146:


Seems probable. Sbell and Doop make sense as the filler roles to make normal kills.
Scum so far has shown a lot of daypower too though
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htaeD
11/11/18 1:31:58 PM
#147:


Actually what am I saying. If scum have a ninja, that one sends in the kills.
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Corrik
11/11/18 1:34:43 PM
#148:


Sheep007 posted...
Corrik posted...
Sheep007 posted...
I was pretty sure Puns was scum but I'm no longer convinced after the lack of action

On what night did he go nowhere?

Three.

Scum could have ppl with spent powers.

Say Roleblocker left.
Scum gift giver.
1 shot ninja.

Ninja is spent so wouldn't move. He also made a weird claim day 1 maybe just to get to day 2. As you see he is now changing his claim later on.
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Corrik
11/11/18 1:36:03 PM
#149:


I forgot about the day kill.

So maybe 1 use ninja is a 3power scum jack. 1 day shot. 1 ninja. 1 something.
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turbopuns2
11/11/18 2:47:32 PM
#150:


So sheep claimed tracker and voices tons of suspicion of Han

Then he votes IGCD and says there's no reason it should be revealed what item Han received

Doesn't jive
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