Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia - CHAPTER 4: The Lying Tactician

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And that does sound like Corriks role wouldnt be blocked and he wouldnt be told he was targeted by a blocker either.
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Well, I was unblocked all nights. Neab, John and DYL at the very least cannot possibly be the RB.
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Sheep007 posted...

Well, I was unblocked all nights. Neab, John and DYL at the very least cannot possibly be the RB.

Why can't DYL be the role blocker? Also why haven't you actually tracked DYL to keep him honest?
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htaeD posted...

- If targeted by a roleblock, you will only be notified if you took an action that night.

From Bens rulelist

Where's this rules list lol
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Well, I was unblocked all nights. Neab, John and DYL at the very least cannot possibly be the RB.

Why can't DYL be the role blocker? Also why haven't you actually tracked DYL to keep him honest?

This is a good question tbh

I should have kept my ISO notes from work with me

Though the big gist of Doops day1 was that he went by largely untouched, until his terrible vote on Han.
Sheep was a major force behind his almost train, which I like him for. Puns also tried to engage Doop early on. In a friendly manner, but still it didnt sound like forced banter.

Doop was going after inactives (or rather he said he wanted to pressure them, but never did) and defended DYL despite calling him inactive earlier..

Hopefully day2 will tell me more.
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Corrik posted...

htaeD posted...

- If targeted by a roleblock, you will only be notified if you took an action that night.

From Bens rulelist

Where's this rules list lol

Cant link to the EEEEEEEEEEEVIL log site.

But..

GAME SPECIFIC RULES
- When a player dies, their entire role and flavor will be posted in the flip.

- If targeted by a roleblock, you will only be notified if you took an action that night.

- When the lynch is decided, either by deadline or a hammer, I will make a post declaring the lynch and tag every player. You will then have a 10 minute Twilight period, between the decided lynch and that players execution. You can post during the Twilight period, but no voting will occur. DO NOT POST after Twilight is over. If you make any post even a second after the deadline for Twilight, you will be modkilled. The Twilight period and the post tagging everyone is meant to prevent any accidental posting after a lynch.

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And thats the first time I have seen a host clarify that. I assumed all hosts went by that rule already..
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Man. Mixing up names of your own alleged track targets is not a good look.

turbopuns2 posted...

Man. Mixing up names of your own alleged track targets is not a good look.

Who are you talking to?
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If a scanner was faking, it would likely be sheep who waited til last to claim (didn't he?)
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There is only one tracker claim Puns could be talking to... <.<

And Sheep didnt know what I/Johnbobb and IGCD were at that point.
Two of us being on his target list.
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htaeD posted...

There is only one tracker claim Puns could be talking to... <.<

And Sheep didnt know what I/Johnbobb and IGCD were at that point.
Two of us being on his target list.

Thought he may be referring to me which is why I asked cuz I didn't see what post he was referring to. Death you seem like you are trying to avoid my wrath big time.
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Ehr what?
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Corrik posted...

Death you seem like you are trying to avoid my wrath big time.

htaeD posted...

Ehr what?

I lol'd

I did not mix up the targets of my tracks. And I guess DYL perhaps could be the RB, but he claimed to visit me N1, I was not blocked, and nobody else claimed to visit me. So very very unlikely to be RB. I didn't track him because I felt alright on him, and thought it was a good idea to try and clear up those I was unsure on.
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Looks like I am not getting an answer to my confusion any time soon either...
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Sheep007 posted...

I did not mix up the targets of my tracks. And I guess DYL perhaps could be the RB, but he claimed to visit me N1, I was not blocked, and nobody else claimed to visit me. So very very unlikely to be RB. I didn't track him because I felt alright on him, and thought it was a good idea to try and clear up those I was unsure on.

While I didnt think you'd mix up two targets like that. I dont know why you still think Puns and I can be the scumRB. At least thats what it sounds like, based on that short list.
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It's not confirmed there was a roleblock at all on the nights I tracked you
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[4] Neablis - Johnbobb, Death, Corrik, DYL
[4] DYL - IGCD, Neablis, Han, Puns
[1] IGCD - Sheep
[0] Han - (IGCD)
[0] Death - (Corrik)
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##Unvote

Don't really, really want to lynch DYL but I'd far rather go for him over Neab right now. Don't want to vote because it would put it too close to hammer.
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Sheep007 posted...

##Unvote

Don't really, really want to lynch DYL but I'd far rather go for him over Neab right now. Don't want to vote because it would put it too close to hammer.

Well who do you want to go after and why still igcd?
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I'm honestly not sure who I want to go after. DYL is probably the logical one assuming Han is off the table, since literally everyone else I can eliminate for one reason or another, except maybe Death. I didn't want to lynch God, I was just pissed at the time that he didn't claim. No sense lynching him unless we've already lynched Han, since if Han is Town God is basically confirmed Town
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So here is where I am at on DYL Sheep,

I have a problem with his D1 play, he kept moving the goal posts on his interactions with han and when confronted about them his argument would slightly contort. This is not necessarily a scum trait by itself.
Around eod he did do enough to get pressure off of him but once pressure was off he was pretty happy just sitting on Scare and not really being super active.

he had pressure build up on him d2, however he brought out a good many blurbs from wehre hew as isoing people that looked really good. After that he was not really present outside of that, I do not remember where his vote ended up exactly on that.

Outside those bursts he has just kind of existed and sat his vote on me without really doing much at all, he just is existing at this point and is happy with corrik pushing the narrative at this point.

It does not really align to me with his previous inquisitive nature d2 where he got most of the pressure off of him. I think especially with his vanilla to wanderer role and also a bit of wifom from sbell claiming he was a scanner makes me think he has a great possibility to be scum at this point.

benjamin3740 posted...

[4] Neablis - Johnbobb, Death, Corrik, DYL
[4] DYL - IGCD, Neablis, Han, Puns

general note: this is why I often push counter lynches even when I don't fully buy into them

situations like this force people to make very telling votes

[4] Neablis - Johnbobb, Death, Corrik, DYL
[4] DYL - IGCD, Neablis, Han, Puns

Puns is right this is really interesting, just from my perspective, Han i townread as cop, igcd has a green check on him, puns I still believe is town.

Sheep and sultan are the only people left, I believe sultan is probalby still town his slots play early in the game was towny and I believe, rest of game has left desired effect but eh.

and i still think sheep is towny as well.

So really interesting scenerio we have going on

Neablis posted...

[4] Neablis - Johnbobb, Death, Corrik, DYL
[4] DYL - IGCD, Neablis, Han, Puns

Puns is right this is really interesting, just from my perspective, Han i townread as cop, igcd has a green check on him, puns I still believe is town.

Sheep and sultan are the only people left, I believe sultan is probalby still town his slots play early in the game was towny and I believe, rest of game has left desired effect but eh.

and i still think sheep is towny as well.

So really interesting scenerio we have going on

Everyone who votes the way I want them to is town. This is exciting. Hey, guys, if you wanna be thought town by the scum player, vote DYL!
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Aye, everyone who's been on my votes has generally been on them all game, and generally those who haven't, haven't been on them. And, D1 and D3, at least, the majority of my votes were right.
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Btw this was Doops reaction to sheeps fake masonclaim

Eh wait till later. @Neablis confirm or deny the claim.

Now I didnt see it was a joke right away. But I dont know what Neab or Sheep are. Doop should have known, so why did he fall for it?Unless both players were really town.

Starting to secondguess myself. But I am not done yet.
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I also struggle to see any situation in which Scum Neab gives Town Han a BP use. Like, that's basically unthinkable. If you think Han is Town, Neab must almost certainly also be Town.
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I can't get over that neab literally just said every person not in the game voting him is town. Every single one. This by extension means that neab thinks the entire scum team is on him... Him of all people.

Dude is scum.

Poe arguments day 1. Contradicting explanations for night actions. Went to night kill likely twice. And saying all scum is on him.

No way he is just that bad as town.
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Sheep007 posted...

I also struggle to see any situation in which Scum Neab gives Town Han a BP use. Like, that's basically unthinkable. If you think Han is Town, Neab must almost certainly also be Town.

Even if you don't buy that the gift is supposed to kill Han before the save, it still doesn't matter. They just roleblock him all game and you confirm him as town despite wifom. It doesn't make him town at all.
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Corrik, you're a good player, but if Neab is Town your voting record is absolutely abysmal. That in itself is a big black mark against your name for me.
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Corrik posted...

I can't get over that neab literally just said every person not in the game voting him is town. Every single one. This by extension means that neab thinks the entire scum team is on him... Him of all people.

Dude is scum.

Poe arguments day 1. Contradicting explanations for night actions. Went to night kill likely twice. And saying all scum is on him.

No way he is just that bad as town.

So you're really going with the theory that scum inventor was also trying to kill his targets.
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Except me, to... prove that he was inventor?
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Sheep007 posted...

I also struggle to see any situation in which Scum Neab gives Town Han a BP use. Like, that's basically unthinkable. If you think Han is Town, Neab must almost certainly also be Town.

Uhm, to repeat what Corrik said earlier.

What if scum tried to gift and shoot Han at the same time?
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Why the hell did I think Corrik was Town again?
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Sheep007 posted...

Corrik, you're a good player, but if Neab is Town your voting record is absolutely abysmal. That in itself is a big black mark against your name for me.

And what is this post even supposed to accomplish?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

I can't get over that neab literally just said every person not in the game voting him is town. Every single one. This by extension means that neab thinks the entire scum team is on him... Him of all people.

Dude is scum.

Poe arguments day 1. Contradicting explanations for night actions. Went to night kill likely twice. And saying all scum is on him.

No way he is just that bad as town.

So you're really going with the theory that scum inventor was also trying to kill his targets.

Gift of death how sweet.
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htaeD posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I also struggle to see any situation in which Scum Neab gives Town Han a BP use. Like, that's basically unthinkable. If you think Han is Town, Neab must almost certainly also be Town.

Uhm, to repeat what Corrik said earlier.

What if scum tried to gift and shoot Han at the same time?

In my current "scum has a ninja" idea, that's completely pointless.
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htaeD posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Corrik, you're a good player, but if Neab is Town your voting record is absolutely abysmal. That in itself is a big black mark against your name for me.

And what is this post even supposed to accomplish?

What's the point of any post?
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Did all the old topics die? I wanted to ISO Corrik dammit
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go to Lo6faqs

replace 6 with g

This should be in the rules from now on, tbh
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Sheep007 posted...

htaeD posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I also struggle to see any situation in which Scum Neab gives Town Han a BP use. Like, that's basically unthinkable. If you think Han is Town, Neab must almost certainly also be Town.

Uhm, to repeat what Corrik said earlier.

What if scum tried to gift and shoot Han at the same time?

In my current "scum has a ninja" idea, that's completely pointless.

It fits for my scum has a 1 shot ninja theory that lets them modify the kill away from the Santa claws killer neab to let him confirm as town with his pointless gift. Notice how night 1 he uses the pointless flavor cop gift also to "confirm".

Doop selects him purposely for gladiation. A role confirmed inventor. Then doop never even tries to get neab lynched at all and just takes being lynched for granted.
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If Neab isn't scum may the hosts take my mafia soul. Because I am positive of it. Dude is a complete wreck by play, actions, circumstances, etc. There is no way to look at neab and have him town except you want him to be.
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You do not like my style corrik that is fine. But I called out scum doop, have a verifiable role that does not kill a person verifiable by sheep.

And if poe is such an issue I could find 10 games at least where I attempted to poe the game or lynched into a poe lynch d1 probably.

This is no offense corrik but you have been tunneled on me a long time and won't listen to anything or explain my motivations for the information I am giving if I am scum.

What's the point of bringing attention to myself if scum?

Corrik posted...

Doop selects him purposely for gladiation. A role confirmed inventor. Then doop never even tries to get neab lynched at all and just takes being lynched for granted.

This.
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Neablis posted...

You do not like my style corrik that is fine. But I called out scum doop, have a verifiable role that does not kill a person verifiable by sheep.

And if poe is such an issue I could find 10 games at least where I attempted to poe the game or lynched into a poe lynch d1 probably.

Link all ten games and supporting posts. You are full of shit.
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Some notes I made from day2:

- Doop explains his reads on Neab and John, but only because he was forced to. Then in the next topic he finally votes Johnbobb and later Neab as well. He was throwing potshots at Sbell too, but never did anything serious with that. Of course, he also voted Han after Kanz' reveal.

- Neab calls that vote awful and wants to vote Doop for it. He doesnt because the Hanfun is happening still. (presumedly). He thinks Han/John and Doop could be scum together. He does vote Doop after Han claims cop though.

- Doop calls John/Neablis/IGCD scum regardless of what Han flips, and adds DYL to the scumlist if Han is town. Note this down in the rule of three lists.

- Then Bizarrely, Doop seems to forget all about this suspicion of Neab and wants to pursue John instead. Doop does switch to Neab at the last second though. I really cant make heads or tails of this.He was clearly panicking. He could have thought (correctly) that Neab would never get lynched, or John was scum, or neither was scum. Nevertheless, by that time its far too late to change course and his (and Puns) actions doom Sbell instead.

- Neab keeps saying to lynch Doop after Han claims cop. And this finally leads me to one question...

Neab, if you thought Doop was scum. Why did you vote [i]with[/i] him at the end of the day? At that time, you were hardly in danger of being lynched.
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