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pyresword
11/14/18 9:12:25 PM
#51:


I looked in GMUN's archive by searching "Avenatti" and I only found maybe 1 or 2 people in this topic series expressing what could be interpreted as uniformly positive opinions of Avenatti in the time period between now and July 23, 2018. (Those two were GMUN and Rock, for the record)

There were a few posts to the tune of "He's generally credible but I don't like the way he does things [in reference to his media grandstanding]", which I am not counting here.
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MoogleKupo141
11/14/18 9:14:00 PM
#52:


I'm 100% confident you wouldn't be able to find a post in any of these topics where I say I like Avenatti

I'm not even going to claim I really dislike him... I just nothing him. I've paid like no attention to anything he's done aside from being Stormy Daniels's lawyer.
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Corrik
11/14/18 9:14:12 PM
#53:


CelesMyUserName posted...
I love how triggered Corrik is by a Mario Party gif holy shit, this is his second time using it as some proof of everybody being in love with him

the gif isn't even a compliment of Avenatti, the joke was literally that he doesn't need to do anything because the team is full of complete morons (like Corrik)

Seems completely backwards to me. Avenatti is the only one going down in flames while nobody else has at all.
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Eddv
11/14/18 9:15:01 PM
#54:


I mean I will own it - I did at one point have a very positive opinion of thr guy but in light of new evidence where he was less great thsn he seemed I have revised my opinion.

See how easy that was? Why cant yall do that with Trump.
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Suprak the Stud
11/14/18 9:16:47 PM
#55:


Cohen went down first.

The investigation led to him pleading guilty on August 21, 2018, to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. In his statement before the court, Cohen said he violated campaign finance laws "in coordination with and at the direction of a candidate for federal office," meaning Trump, "for the principal purpose of influencing the election" for president in 2016.

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Corrik
11/14/18 9:33:28 PM
#56:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Cohen went down first.

The investigation led to him pleading guilty on August 21, 2018, to eight counts of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. In his statement before the court, Cohen said he violated campaign finance laws "in coordination with and at the direction of a candidate for federal office," meaning Trump, "for the principal purpose of influencing the election" for president in 2016.

I don't even remember who the 3 were. Trump, guliani, Cohen?

But yeah you are correct.
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LordoftheMorons
11/14/18 9:38:13 PM
#57:


I usually give tech companies a fair amount of benefit of the doubt, but this NYT article on Facebook reflects very badly on Sheryl Sandberg and Zuck:

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1062817439476523011?s=21
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TheRock1525
11/14/18 10:21:45 PM
#58:


I liked Avenatti until the "we need to pick a white dude if we want to win the presidency."
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metroid composite
11/14/18 11:54:08 PM
#59:


I'm pretty sure I have an old tweet somewhere where I basically say that I view Avenatti as a left-wing version of Trump (in the sense that he does things to dominate the news cycle that few other people do, to the point of unnecessary showboating).

So...my views on him were not exactly positive.

But like...what we used to think of him shouldn't even matter. Sure, he didn't have a sterling reputation in my eyes anyway. But sometimes sexual predators DO have sterling public images. (Bill Cosby jumps to mind). If decades ago you used to think of Bill Cosby as this upstanding very moral guy, that's fine, you probably didn't see any evidence to the contrary.

I only have a low opinion of you if you refuse to change your mind in the face of new evidence. Like...someone being supportive of Avenatti a few months ago, sure, that's fine, I might personally not like his tactics, but a month ago I wouldn't be upset with someone for liking him. If someone in here was trying to defend Avenatti today, on the other hand, that would be pretty scummy.
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TheRock1525
11/15/18 12:09:59 AM
#60:


https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1062871856481366016

Uh-huh.
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StartTheMachine
11/15/18 12:12:21 AM
#61:


TheRock1525 posted...
https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1062871856481366016

Uh-huh.

oh dear lord that Sarah Palin retweet a few tweets down
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LordoftheMorons
11/15/18 12:15:22 AM
#62:


Lmao he has Mueller in his list of "prominent democrats accused of victimizing women" (Mueller, of course, being both a Republican and only incredibly accused by Wohl himself)
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metroid composite
11/15/18 6:27:18 AM
#63:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/15/heat-waves-caused-by-climate-change-could-impair-male-fertility-across-generations-scientists-warn/

So...turns out heat waves cause infertility in males and DNA damage (which can fuck up offspring).

This is more applicable to insects (who have been dying off recently) but the DNA damage is thought to be relevant in humans as well.
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Corrik
11/15/18 7:52:25 AM
#64:


https://nypost.com/2018/11/15/homeless-vet-couple-at-center-of-gofundme-controversy-allegedly-made-up-story-report/

Damn the homeless guy was in on it. Then he sued for it all and got them all caught lol.
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HarrietTubgirl
11/15/18 7:53:00 AM
#65:


Can someone clarify what is happening with Brexit to an ignorant American (me)?

I thought the referendum to leave the EU meant it was a done deal... So why is there still so much "debate" and why are ministers resigning? I don't understand how this works.
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trdl23
11/15/18 9:15:06 AM
#66:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
Can someone clarify what is happening with Brexit to an ignorant American (me)?

I thought the referendum to leave the EU meant it was a done deal... So why is there still so much "debate" and why are ministers resigning? I don't understand how this works.

They voted on the what without for a moment considering the how. It turns out that the world is complicated.
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HarrietTubgirl
11/15/18 10:18:01 AM
#67:


trdl23 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...
Can someone clarify what is happening with Brexit to an ignorant American (me)?

I thought the referendum to leave the EU meant it was a done deal... So why is there still so much "debate" and why are ministers resigning? I don't understand how this works.

They voted on the what without for a moment considering the how. It turns out that the world is complicated.

Seems like an executive branch would be useful to execute things then
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trdl23
11/15/18 10:24:13 AM
#68:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
trdl23 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...
Can someone clarify what is happening with Brexit to an ignorant American (me)?

I thought the referendum to leave the EU meant it was a done deal... So why is there still so much "debate" and why are ministers resigning? I don't understand how this works.

They voted on the what without for a moment considering the how. It turns out that the world is complicated.

Seems like an executive branch would be useful to execute things then

Well a MAJOR issue is what to do about Ireland and Northern Ireland, which will be the only EU-UK land border, and has been subject to, suffice it to say, plenty of drama in the past few decades. The UK cant afford to inflame that again.
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xp1337
11/15/18 10:37:22 AM
#69:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I usually give tech companies a fair amount of benefit of the doubt, but this NYT article on Facebook reflects very badly on Sheryl Sandberg and Zuck:

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1062817439476523011?s=21

It 100% does and the House Dems should call them back to Congress on a lot of this. Although it shouldn't be missed in the full NYT article how Schumer (who received the most money from Facebook) told Warner to back off on Facebook.

Just another thing to add to the pile of reasons why I'm exasperated that there's all this hand-wringing over Pelosi's role in leadership (ftr, I'm still down as Pelosi becoming Speaker again without issue), but Schumer? Cruised to being re-selected as Minority Leader yesterday.
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Reg
11/15/18 10:49:13 AM
#70:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I usually give tech companies a fair amount of benefit of the doubt, but this NYT article on Facebook reflects very badly on Sheryl Sandberg and Zuck:

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1062817439476523011?s=21

I would love nothing more than for facebook and twitter to be regulated into effective irrelevance.

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GildedFool
11/15/18 10:50:30 AM
#71:


HarrietTubgirl posted...
trdl23 posted...
HarrietTubgirl posted...
Can someone clarify what is happening with Brexit to an ignorant American (me)?

I thought the referendum to leave the EU meant it was a done deal... So why is there still so much "debate" and why are ministers resigning? I don't understand how this works.

They voted on the what without for a moment considering the how. It turns out that the world is complicated.

Seems like an executive branch would be useful to execute things then

There's nothing to execute on because there is no law in place.

So what has happened so far is that there was a (non-legally binding) referendum that passed to leave the EU.

The UK government enacted Article 50, announcing they would leave the EU in March 2019.

For the last 2 years, the UK and the EU have been negotiating on a deal to determine what the UK/EU relationship will look like after we leave. The two sets of negotiators agreed a deal and the UK government brought it back to the House where it needs to pass a vote.

The deal was dramatically unpopular and will not pass that vote.

Ministers are resigning because they cannot vote against a government bill while in the cabinet and they do not want to vote for the deal.
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Kenri
11/15/18 10:52:37 AM
#72:


GildedFool posted...
The deal was dramatically unpopular and will not pass that vote.

can't even imagine living in a country where something being dramatically unpopular stops it from happening
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GildedFool
11/15/18 10:55:19 AM
#73:


To be clear, dramatically unpopular with the politicians. It's 585 pages and was released to the public yesterday - the public doesn't really have an opinion and given the weight of the document, will likely never read it or know what it actually says beyond the parts the papers and politicians want them to know about.
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GildedFool
11/15/18 10:58:47 AM
#74:


Also, there's about to be a leadership election in the governing party (because of all this) and lots of the Ministers are working out what positions themselves best for a leadership challenge of their own or how to align themselves early with a potential new leader.

And Theresa May might win that challenge anyway.
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xp1337
11/15/18 10:58:49 AM
#75:


Kenri posted...
GildedFool posted...
The deal was dramatically unpopular and will not pass that vote.

can't even imagine living in a country where something being dramatically unpopular stops it from happening

metroid prime federation force cut us all deep
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Kenri
11/15/18 11:04:41 AM
#76:


GildedFool posted...
To be clear, dramatically unpopular with the politicians. It's 585 pages and was released to the public yesterday - the public doesn't really have an opinion and given the weight of the document, will likely never read it or know what it actually says beyond the parts the papers and politicians want them to know about.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification!

xp1337 posted...
Kenri posted...
GildedFool posted...
The deal was dramatically unpopular and will not pass that vote.

can't even imagine living in a country where something being dramatically unpopular stops it from happening

metroid prime federation force cut us all deep

LMAO not where I was going with that but very very true
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Jakyl25
11/15/18 11:13:48 AM
#77:


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1063042585802039296?s=21

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1063046973857718272?s=21

The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and dont...

....care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They wont even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!


Its so funny to me that he doesnt realize how much he implicates himself with these tweets
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TsunamiXXVIII
11/15/18 11:17:17 AM
#78:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1991767002

Seriously, Trump? You're this guy now?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XBnXvhgrV8Q?&rel=0
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11/15/18 11:22:09 AM
#79:


Trump once put on sunglasses to get another free sample at the supermarket and now he's convinced it works for everything
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KanzarisKelshen
11/15/18 11:56:01 AM
#80:


FTR since it wasn't mentioned - Jacob Wohl is taking credit for the 'investigation' on Avenatti. So odds are it's total bullshit and he's just adding more shit to the pile that's gonna get him thrown into prison.
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TheRock1525
11/15/18 12:04:15 PM
#81:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
FTR since it wasn't mentioned - Jacob Wohl is taking credit for the 'investigation' on Avenatti. So odds are it's total bullshit and he's just adding more shit to the pile that's gonna get him thrown into prison.


I mentioned it from the very beginning.
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GuessMyUserName
11/15/18 12:13:10 PM
#82:


Apparently Wohl is backpeddling now

https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1063112029039411200
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KanzarisKelshen
11/15/18 12:23:38 PM
#83:


TheRock1525 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
FTR since it wasn't mentioned - Jacob Wohl is taking credit for the 'investigation' on Avenatti. So odds are it's total bullshit and he's just adding more shit to the pile that's gonna get him thrown into prison.


I mentioned it from the very beginning.


Sorry rock, I didnt see it, kinda got lost in the shuffle. I just figured it was worth repeating since it kinda changes things a lot.
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TheRock1525
11/15/18 12:26:17 PM
#84:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
FTR since it wasn't mentioned - Jacob Wohl is taking credit for the 'investigation' on Avenatti. So odds are it's total bullshit and he's just adding more shit to the pile that's gonna get him thrown into prison.


I mentioned it from the very beginning.


Sorry rock, I didnt see it, kinda got lost in the shuffle. I just figured it was worth repeating since it kinda changes things a lot.


No problem, I just laugh at Ulti's premature victory lap.

Avenatti could still be guilty of something, but they clearly got an initial important fact wrong. I mean he still had to post bail so I assume the LAPD had more than just "Jacob Wohl said something."
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Corrik
11/15/18 12:28:56 PM
#85:


TheRock1525 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
FTR since it wasn't mentioned - Jacob Wohl is taking credit for the 'investigation' on Avenatti. So odds are it's total bullshit and he's just adding more shit to the pile that's gonna get him thrown into prison.


I mentioned it from the very beginning.


Sorry rock, I didnt see it, kinda got lost in the shuffle. I just figured it was worth repeating since it kinda changes things a lot.


No problem, I just laugh at Ulti's premature victory lap.

Avenatti could still be guilty of something, but they clearly got an initial important fact wrong. I mean he still had to post bail so I assume the LAPD had more than just "Jacob Wohl said something."

Did you like not even read the report at all? It explains why he was arrested.

They had a fight the night before. He kicked her out. She was supposedly beaten in the face. She came back the next morning with the police already called in case avenatti got violent with her while she tried to retrieve her things from the apartment.

He was screaming at her supposedly. She said she was getting a restraining order. They argued some. And he supposedly said she hit him first in reference to the marks on her as a security guard restrained avenatti.
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red sox 777
11/15/18 1:17:07 PM
#86:


Avenatti is probably innocent, but now he can parade this as evidence of a vast right wing conspiracy against him orchestrated from the highest levels of the Department of Justice.

He's not nearly as good at the game as he thinks he is though. And there are not enough free votes, as in voters who haven't already made up their mind, in the Democratic primary to make a difference. You know they will nominate Hillary again if she runs, or if not, they'll pick someone similar to her with the same weaknesses in the general.
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red sox 777
11/15/18 1:20:06 PM
#87:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1063042585802039296?s=21

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1063046973857718272?s=21

The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and dont...

....care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They wont even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!


Its so funny to me that he doesnt realize how much he implicates himself with these tweets


The president is the chief law enforcement officer of this country. Ultimately, the president is responsible for enforcing all federal laws, and the DoJ only has power by virtue of being delegated it by the president. So it would be the president's duty to fire any prosecutor who is running witch hunts.

So, what is he waiting for? Does he want an official petition on the White House petitions site to get to 100,000 signatures?
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Xeybozn
11/15/18 2:13:57 PM
#88:


red sox 777 posted...
The president is the chief law enforcement officer of this country. Ultimately, the president is responsible for enforcing all federal laws, and the DoJ only has power by virtue of being delegated it by the president.

Does this mean it's also Trump's fault that Hillary still hasn't been locked up? Maybe he should actually do his job instead of spending his time ranting about how everyone else isn't doing what he wants.
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Umitencho
11/15/18 2:22:26 PM
#89:


There is nothing they could lock her up for that would stick in the courts.

Going after Clinton through rhetoric is just a easy way to rile up the base. That is why Clinton needs to stay away from 2020, she is guaranteed to lose again because the right have successfully dragged her name & reputation permanently through the mud.

Avenatti is a bunch of hot air who was using his attacks on Trump to get into what is now a failed political career with this arrest & accusation.

Wohl needs to stay low because he is already in trouble for trying to frame Mueller and trying to get his name out there will do him no more good.
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Corrik
11/15/18 2:49:59 PM
#90:


My fiancee just sent me this link in a text lol

Trump Warns Flu Shots Are The Greatest Scam In Medical History
https://wisemindhealthybody.com/wmhb/trump-warns-flu-shots-scam/
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Jakyl25
11/15/18 2:53:22 PM
#91:


When I tried to click on the source link my browser warned me it was a phishing scam
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Jakyl25
11/15/18 2:53:51 PM
#92:


Hopefully she doesnt believe that?? For the sake of her kid at least
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Corrik
11/15/18 2:54:54 PM
#93:


Jakyl25 posted...
Hopefully she doesnt believe that?? For the sake of her kid at least

Our kid got a flu shot this year. I wouldn't let him get one when he was only a year old but told her to get them after for him. So he gets them.
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Shaduln
11/15/18 2:56:38 PM
#94:


The second my kid turns 6 months I'm running out and getting her a flu shot.

But, you know, I believe that doctors know better than me.
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Jakyl25
11/15/18 2:57:48 PM
#95:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Hopefully she doesnt believe that?? For the sake of her kid at least

Our kid got a flu shot this year. I wouldn't let him get one when he was only a year old but told her to get them after for him. So he gets them.

Oh I thought you each had your own kid from previous relationships
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Umitencho
11/15/18 2:59:44 PM
#96:


Shaduln posted...
The second my kid turns 6 months I'm running out and getting her a flu shot.

But, you know, I believe that doctors know better than me.


Sorry but conspiracy theory vaxxers with a post doctorate in bs are clearly more believable than someone with a medical degree(plus medical school cert) & practice. /s
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Corrik
11/15/18 3:01:14 PM
#97:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Hopefully she doesnt believe that?? For the sake of her kid at least

Our kid got a flu shot this year. I wouldn't let him get one when he was only a year old but told her to get them after for him. So he gets them.

Oh I thought you each had your own kid from previous relationships

She has one from a prior relationship and we have one together.
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Jakyl25
11/15/18 3:06:58 PM
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Okay thats what I meant then, for her kids sake
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NFUN
11/15/18 3:17:56 PM
#99:


Umitencho posted...
Shaduln posted...
The second my kid turns 6 months I'm running out and getting her a flu shot.

But, you know, I believe that doctors know better than me.


Sorry but conspiracy theory vaxxers with a post doctorate in bs are clearly more believable than someone with a medical degree(plus medical school cert) & practice. /s

no a doctorate and a bs are different degrees
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Corrik
11/15/18 3:18:54 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Okay thats what I meant then, for her kids sake

Her kid gets them.
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