Current Events > Its honestly a matter of time until the republican party dies off....

(+) Yeah! (+)

how does that make you feel?

Most young people are democrats and there is an increasing proportion of immigrants and minorities who will vote democrat.

How does it feel that your political party will be forgotten and democrats will re-write the history books to erase any small amount of good you've ever done.
---

I remember a lot of similar comments six years ago, so I'm not entirely convinced here.
---

Antifar posted...

I remember a lot of similar comments six years ago, so I'm not entirely convinced here.

---

Antifar posted...

I remember a lot of similar comments six years ago, so I'm not entirely convinced here.

Yea its not dying in 6 years. It'll take a few decades at least. Once these baby boomers all die off, its gg.

What a not-smart comment btw, "they told me that a few years ago so it hasn't happened!" you really fucking expect it to happen in a few years?
---

The GOP will not die off no. But the older white base will shrivel in numbers. They can't afford to be racist like they are today. Not in 2040.

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

And the alt righters here will have no place in politics.

it was supposedly on its last legs until like 2016. both parties need to die, but even revolution wouldnt fix it now, the american people are too anti intellectual to stop thinking in such asinine dichotomies.

wait until the 17th amendment is changed, then republican majority forever in senate
---

DanHarenChamp posted...

What a not-smart comment btw, "they told me that a few years ago so it hasn't happened!" you really fucking expect it to happen in a few years?

Well, it's just that the opposite has basically happened. Everyone said after 2012, even Republicans, that they would have to become a more open party in order to win back the presidency, given the shifting demographics of the country. And instead they doubled and tripled down and won everything there is to win.

Changing demographics alone will not doom the GOP, and for a while may even add fuel to the fire.
---

Both parties need to go if you want things to get better.
---

Antifar posted...

Changing demographics alone will not doom the GOP, and for a while may even add fuel to the fire.

What concerns me, is that I am under the impression that almost all Republicans and conservatives 18-30 something, the ones that are internet savvy, and get their news sources from places that are more extreme than cable watching boomers who like fox, are almost entirely all alt-right.

I am hoping these people will be wiped out from politics though.

On contrary, i know plenty of young republicans; most people as they age and start making more money get tired of being taxed to oblivion
---

NeuralLaxative posted...

On contrary, i know plenty of young republicans; most people as they age and start making more money get tired of being taxed to oblivion

They don't like taxes, but they hate minorities more.

DanHarenChamp posted...

Most young people are democrats

Eventually they will grow up and get jobs though.
---

I think TC is right.

Times are changing and eventually the Republican Party will either fall apart or change so much that it might as well be named something else. But has it ever occurred to anyone that the current Democratic Party could become viewed the same way as the GOP is now? Your children or your childrens children could hold and promote views in the future that we find contrary, at best, or shockingly awful at worst. Every generation of old people goes through this with their youth. I dont think young people today can escape this problem with their own descendants, regardless of whether or not Millenials really do think they are special and this time itll be different.
---

I think you'd be surprised how many youngish minorities are closet Republicans. Neither party is going anywhere. Which is actually a good thing. Both parties should be represented.
---

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.
---

SauI_Goodman posted...

Neither party is going anywhere. Which is actually a good thing.

Lol no. Both parties need to go. They are too broken and corrupt.
---

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

nothing irrational about a center right(legitimate center right) party that's fiscally conservative.

People like TC keep the Republican Party alive
---

The party can't die in our two-party system. It'll just change.

Tc is stupid. Tc is a troll. We shouldn't post in Tc's topics.
---

Drpooplol posted...

The party can't die in our two-party system. It'll just change.

Tc is stupid. Tc is a troll. We shouldn't post in Tc's topics.

yeah. But will it even more racist, or will they learn to embrace the fact that white America is pretty much as good as gone?

That's probably the most concerning domestic issue that we will see in the next few decades.

nonbinaries, male feminists, soyboys, sjws etc dont have kids

I love how angry you are that Trump is president and there's nothing you can do about it lmfao

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

nothing irrational about a center right(legitimate center right) party that's fiscally conservative.

You're going to have to define "fiscally conservative" because that's only ever used to promote policies advantageous to the rich.
---

democrats have one good election and look at it go to their heads LMOA
---

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Times are changing and eventually the Republican Party will either fall apart or change so much that it might as well be named something else.

Ha Ha Ha. No.

You kids kill me. Here's what they don't tell you, most of these young democrats turn into republicans by the time they hit their 60s. And who always votes in record numbers? Senior Citizens. You think all those flower-power kids stayed hippies? Um, no. The republican party is built on maintaining a nostalgic way of life, something that looks ever appealing the older you get.

Futurama summed up this phenomenon the best in their time-jump skit with two guys standing outside of the social security office.
---

1337toothbrush posted...

You're going to have to define "fiscally conservative" because that's only ever used to promote policies advantageous to the rich.

Which, in a time of widening inequality and increasing ethnic diversity, will only lead further and further into racist nonsense.
---

AlephZero posted...

democrats have one good election and look at it go to their heads LMOA

Trump is the epitome of the "one good election" phenomenon you speak of. He came in promising change when the democrats had their heads up their asses and nominated someone promising more of the same in a stunningly tone-deaf move. Trump's the last gasp of breath before the republican party continues the decline it was on before he showed up. If anything, the economic downturn that will happen on his watch will accelerate the process.
---

1337toothbrush posted...

Trump's the last gasp of breath before the republican party continues the decline it was on before he showed up.

Note: the GOP won 900 legislative seats under Obama; In the election prior to 2016 they took over the Senate, allowing them to maintain their control over the Supreme Court when Scalia died.
---

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

nothing irrational about a center right(legitimate center right) party that's fiscally conservative.

You're going to have to define "fiscally conservative" because that's only ever used to promote policies advantageous to the rich.

less regulations on buiding housing in nyc and sf.

will lower rent costs.

jesus dude. dont let the gop fool you. conservatism isnt necessarily bad.

Antifar posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Trump's the last gasp of breath before the republican party continues the decline it was on before he showed up.

Note: the GOP won 900 legislative seats under Obama; In the election prior to 2016 they took over the Senate, allowing them to maintain their control over the Supreme Court when Scalia died.

Thanks to heavy gerrymandering and a fervent base that is rapidly dying. The party is declining, but that doesn't mean it's already gone.
---

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

nothing irrational about a center right(legitimate center right) party that's fiscally conservative.

You're going to have to define "fiscally conservative" because that's only ever used to promote policies advantageous to the rich.

less regulations on buiding housing in nyc and sf.

will lower rent costs.

jesus dude. dont let the gop fool you. conservatism isnt necessarily bad.

Fewer regulations such as...? Regulations aren't a liberal/conservative exclusive thing. You'll find that both will use them for different reasons. Not all regulations are created equal, some are good and some are bad.
---

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

nothing irrational about a center right(legitimate center right) party that's fiscally conservative.

You're going to have to define "fiscally conservative" because that's only ever used to promote policies advantageous to the rich.

less regulations on buiding housing in nyc and sf.

will lower rent costs.

jesus dude. dont let the gop fool you. conservatism isnt necessarily bad.

Fewer regulations such as...? Regulations aren't a liberal/conservative exclusive thing. You'll find that both will use them for different reasons. Not all regulations are created equal, some are good and some are bad.

rent control and building limits.

Meh.
The two-party system has been incredibly stable since 1796. The specific two parties themselves have not.

You always amuse me with your delusions of grandeur, Dan. Whether it's here or at the NBA board.
---

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Alphamon posted...

Maybe we will see a rational conservative party.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

nothing irrational about a center right(legitimate center right) party that's fiscally conservative.

You're going to have to define "fiscally conservative" because that's only ever used to promote policies advantageous to the rich.

less regulations on buiding housing in nyc and sf.

will lower rent costs.

jesus dude. dont let the gop fool you. conservatism isnt necessarily bad.

Fewer regulations such as...? Regulations aren't a liberal/conservative exclusive thing. You'll find that both will use them for different reasons. Not all regulations are created equal, some are good and some are bad.

rent control and building limits.

Removing rent control will lower rent costs?
---

It'll change like all things do. It'll be less about God and glory and more about "facts" and "rationality" and "how dare you be emotional".
---

glitteringfairy posted...

Antifar posted...

I remember a lot of similar comments six years ago, so I'm not entirely convinced here.

Its not gonna happen. The GOP has a way of definining the game (were playing chess!), then redefining the rules when theyre losing (ok, its chess but horses can no longer move!), then when theyre losing again they change the game (I know its chess, but its actuslly checkers, try to keep up!) and finally, if all else fails they throw a fit, flip the table, break the chess board and say guess what, b****? I win anyway!)

The game is called democracy, and they began changing the rules a while ago (gerrymandering and voter suppression), then they changed the game (they now change the narratives and make sure that good values are called virtue signaling, they call legal precedents such as family reunification chain migration, they call being pro-trade globalists now, etc, and the Democrats just let them redefine reality like that).

That has worked so far but they still cant truly win, so theyre literally filling the table. Having Russia interfere, the Wikileaks fiasco, having Comey put his finger on the scale 11 days before the election, thats flipping the fucking table. And it hasnt stopped, now 45 considers every election his party loses a fraud, he appoints government officials who will support everything he does and word is on the street that he plans to delay the 2020 elections or refuse to leave the White House and not accept the results if they dont favor him.

Hows that for flipping the table and refusing to play the game anymore? Democracy sucks anyway, so our orange emperor will stay on power, elections be damned ok? is flipping the table.

The GOP, in one way or the other will always be around

1337toothbrush posted...

Antifar posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

Trump's the last gasp of breath before the republican party continues the decline it was on before he showed up.

Note: the GOP won 900 legislative seats under Obama; In the election prior to 2016 they took over the Senate, allowing them to maintain their control over the Supreme Court when Scalia died.

Thanks to heavy gerrymandering and a fervent base that is rapidly dying. The party is declining, but that doesn't mean it's already gone.

Then its time to simply hack the results or stop having elections all together. Wait and see how they handle the 2020 elections

1337toothbrush posted...

Removing rent control will lower rent costs?

Its a factor but yes.

lol at thinking any republican policies benefit anyone but the rich whatsoever.

honestly, I'll be in the top 2 percentile of income anyways, so low taxes would favor me. i only vote democrat cuz its nice not having racist ass-clowns as our leadership.
---

wont die off, it'll just do what it did after obama became president and reshuffle its beliefs. to be honest both parties do this every once in a while.
---

CyricZ posted...

It'll change like all things do. It'll be less about God and glory and more about "facts" and "rationality" and "how dare you be emotional".

Yes, thats how the conservative intellectuals try to appeal to the youth already.
---

The Republican Party: dying since 1854...
---