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Rebel_Patriot
11/16/18 9:01:24 AM
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/briannaheldt/2018/11/14/school-goes-after-male-teacher-for-not-being-

willing-to-supervise-biologically-female-student-in-locker-room-n2535944

According to a letter of complaint, written to Pasco County School District from Liberty Counsel (a pro-bono law firm committed to defending the constitution), the boys at Chasco Middle School were caught (literally) with their pants down, causing them embarrassment and concern by the fact that they had been observed changing by an obvious girl.

Boys immediately came out of the locker room, the letter went on, and approached Stephanie and Robert, seeking assistance. The P.E. teachers were powerless to respond, because administrators had placed a gag order on them, and told them that they could not answer the boys on these questions.

Furthermore, when the male PE teacher declined to knowingly place himself in a position to observe a minor female in the nude or otherwise in a state of undress, he was told by administrators that he will be transferred to another school as discipline for not doing your job in the locker room.'

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t_paynes_ghost
11/16/18 9:02:46 AM
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'not doing your job in the locker room.'
The out of context and in context implications of this statement is bewildering.
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SaithSayer
11/16/18 9:03:40 AM
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Good. At least he didn't go for that nasty shit.

Seriously though, what the fuck?
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DEKMStephens
11/16/18 9:05:25 AM
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Wait I am confused, is it saying a girl was just in the boys locker room and the teacher refused to go in? Or is it implied she was changing in there too?
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hotcegaI
11/16/18 9:07:00 AM
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http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/14/florida-school-district-gags-p-e-teachers-telling-parents-girl-watching-naked-sons/#.W-wwe3nX1bw.twitter

So the kid IDs as transmale
school never told the parents they'd let the kid use the boy's lockerroom
Teacher didn't want to see a biological young teenage girl undress
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eston
11/16/18 9:07:05 AM
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I don't think he is expected to literally watch a student undress, that's sensationalism
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Alucard188
11/16/18 9:07:10 AM
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Um.

I don't get it.

*reads*

Seems like him not willing to supervise the female is the least bothersome part of the story. Considering that the post goes to great lengths to term her "biologically female", I'm willing to bet that it's another Trans word piece.

*reads further*

Yup.

t_paynes_ghost posted...
'not doing your job in the locker room.'
The out of context and in context implications of this statement is bewildering.


The wording of the article, and the URL itself, sets the tone of what the writer wants to represent.
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SaithSayer
11/16/18 9:08:43 AM
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hotcegaI posted...
http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/14/florida-school-district-gags-p-e-teachers-telling-parents-girl-watching-naked-sons/#.W-wwe3nX1bw.twitter

So the kid IDs as transmale
school never told the parents they'd let the kid use the boy's lockerroom
Teacher didn't want to see a biological young teenage girl undress

So his choices were "transphobic" or "pedophile".

That could replace the old "rock and a hard place" phrase.
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hotcegaI
11/16/18 9:09:34 AM
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SaithSayer posted...

So his choices were "transphobic" or "pedophile".

It'd be avoided if the school weren't idiots
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Roxborough4Ever
11/16/18 9:10:47 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Um.

I don't get it.

*reads*

Seems like him not willing to supervise the female is the least bothersome part of the story. Considering that the post goes to great lengths to term her "biologically female", I'm willing to bet that it's another Trans word piece.

*reads further*

Yup.

t_paynes_ghost posted...
'not doing your job in the locker room.'
The out of context and in context implications of this statement is bewildering.


The wording of the article, and the URL itself, sets the tone of what the writer wants to represent.


so Snopes is confirming that this story never happened?
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eston
11/16/18 9:11:10 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
So his choices were "transphobic" or "pedophile".

Being present does not make him a pedophile, that's just stupid
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Fam_Fam
11/16/18 9:12:05 AM
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breaking news: new PE coaching job receives millions of applications
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SaithSayer
11/16/18 9:12:51 AM
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eston posted...
SaithSayer posted...
So his choices were "transphobic" or "pedophile".

Being present does not make him a pedophile, that's just stupid

I put both on quotations for a reason, though. He wouldn't be either one.

I'm talking about in the eyes of the public. The man is in bit of a bind there with the way people are now.
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eston
11/16/18 9:17:03 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
eston posted...
SaithSayer posted...
So his choices were "transphobic" or "pedophile".

Being present does not make him a pedophile, that's just stupid

I put both on quotations for a reason, though. He wouldn't be either one.

I'm talking about in the eyes of the public. The man is in bit of a bind there with the way people are now.

All I can do is roll my eyes that anyone thinks this is how it works
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Zanzenburger
11/16/18 9:23:13 AM
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This article is misleading as hell. From using "biological female" to refer to a transmale to saying that the guy is refusing to see a "potentially naked underage female", which, while true, is unlikely. Supervising a locker room doesn't mean just standing there watching the students change. It means being around in case of any issues or emergencies. And the transpeople I know are typically discreet when they change in locker rooms; they don't just flaunt themselves around naked. Besides, the way the article is worded implies that it's okay the PE teacher just sits around and watch underage boys naked, as long as they're boys.

With that being said, the school was pretty stupid to retaliate against the PE teacher for something like this. I feel like a better compromise could have been reached.

But that doesn't change the fact that this article used the most flowery wording possible to make this situation seem a lot worse than it is.
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eston
11/16/18 9:24:29 AM
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Rebel_Patriot
11/16/18 10:18:35 AM
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Zanzenburger posted...
This article is misleading as hell. From using "biological female" to refer to a transmale to saying that the guy is refusing to see a "potentially naked underage female", which, while true, is unlikely. Supervising a locker room doesn't mean just standing there watching the students change. It means being around in case of any issues or emergencies. And the transpeople I know are typically discreet when they change in locker rooms; they don't just flaunt themselves around naked. Besides, the way the article is worded implies that it's okay the PE teacher just sits around and watch underage boys naked, as long as they're boys.

With that being said, the school was pretty stupid to retaliate against the PE teacher for something like this. I feel like a better compromise could have been reached.

But that doesn't change the fact that this article used the most flowery wording possible to make this situation seem a lot worse than it is.

How is she not biologically female? And if theres one thing I know about middle schoolers, theyre all about using discretion.

Jesus...

I mean just fuck the comfort level of all the little boys right? Must bend to the will of one, to hell with the many.
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Darkman124
11/16/18 10:25:45 AM
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link is townhall, bias should be expected and assumed

this is townhall's parent company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Media_Group
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monkmith
11/16/18 10:29:51 AM
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now wait, the gym teachers were watching us change? that seems like the real issue here!
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Fam_Fam
11/16/18 4:22:57 PM
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Rebel_Patriot posted...
Zanzenburger posted...
This article is misleading as hell. From using "biological female" to refer to a transmale to saying that the guy is refusing to see a "potentially naked underage female", which, while true, is unlikely. Supervising a locker room doesn't mean just standing there watching the students change. It means being around in case of any issues or emergencies. And the transpeople I know are typically discreet when they change in locker rooms; they don't just flaunt themselves around naked. Besides, the way the article is worded implies that it's okay the PE teacher just sits around and watch underage boys naked, as long as they're boys.

With that being said, the school was pretty stupid to retaliate against the PE teacher for something like this. I feel like a better compromise could have been reached.

But that doesn't change the fact that this article used the most flowery wording possible to make this situation seem a lot worse than it is.

How is she not biologically female? And if theres one thing I know about middle schoolers, theyre all about using discretion.

Jesus...

I mean just fuck the comfort level of all the little boys right? Must bend to the will of one, to hell with the many.


im sure they will feel horrible seeing a girl changing.

life-ruining stuff
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StarSpangled
11/18/18 2:33:27 AM
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Teacher should do his job
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IloveJesus
11/18/18 2:44:23 AM
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StarSpangled posted...
Teacher should do his job


Going into the changing rooms was never part of my teacher's job.
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StarSpangled
11/20/18 3:10:08 AM
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IloveJesus posted...
StarSpangled posted...
Teacher should do his job


Going into the changing rooms was never part of my teacher's job.

It is for this one
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LepartialJury
11/22/18 2:43:58 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
link is townhall, bias should be expected and assumed

this is townhall's parent company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Media_Group

That's a fitting name
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