Poll of the Day > CIA concludes Saudi crown prince ordered Jamal Khashoggi's assassination.

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WastelandCowboy
11/16/18 10:54:08 PM
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The CIA has concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last month, contradicting the Saudi governments claims that he was not involved in the killing, according to people familiar with the matter.

The CIAs assessment, in which officials have said they have high confidence, is the most definitive to date linking Mohammed to the operation and complicates the Trump administrations efforts to preserve its relationship with a close ally. A team of 15 Saudi agents flew to Istanbul on government aircraft in October and killed Khashoggi inside the Saudi consulate, where he had come to pick up documents that he needed for his planned marriage to a Turkish woman.

In reaching its conclusions, the CIA examined multiple sources of intelligence, including a phone call that the princes brother Khalid bin Salman, the Saudi ambassador to the United States, had with Khashoggi, according to the people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the intelligence. Khalid told Khashoggi, a contributing columnist to The Washington Post, that he should go to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to retrieve the documents and gave him assurances that it would be safe to do so.

It is not clear if Khalid knew that Khashoggi would be killed, but he made the call at his brothers direction, according to the people familiar with the call, which was intercepted by U.S. intelligence.

Fatimah Baeshen, a spokeswoman for the Saudi Embassy in Washington, said the ambassador and Khashoggi never discussed anything related to going to Turkey. She added that the claims in the CIAs purported assessment are false. We have and continue to hear various theories without seeing the primary basis for these speculations.

The CIAs conclusion about Mohammeds role was also based on the agencys assessment of the prince as the countrys de facto ruler who oversees even minor affairs in the kingdom. The accepted position is that there is no way this happened without him being aware or involved, said a U.S. official familiar with the CIAs conclusions.

The CIA sees Mohammed as a good technocrat, the U.S. official said, but also as volatile and arrogant, someone who goes from zero to 60, doesnt seem to understand that there are some things you cant do.

CIA analysts believe he has a firm grip on power and is not in danger of losing his status as heir to the throne despite the Khashoggi scandal. The general agreement is that he is likely to survive, the official said, adding that Mohammeds role as the future Saudi king is taken for granted.

A spokesman for the CIA declined to comment.

Over the past several weeks, the Saudis have offered multiple, contradictory explanations for what happened at the consulate. This week, the Saudi public prosecutor blamed the operation on a rogue band of operatives who were sent to Istanbul to return Khashoggi to Saudi Arabia, in an operation that veered off course when the journalist was forcibly restrained and injected with a large amount of a drug resulting in an overdose that led to his death, according to a report by the prosecutor.

The prosecutor announced charges against 11 alleged participants and said he would seek the death penalty against five of them.

The assassination of Khashoggi, a prominent critic of Mohammeds policies, has sparked a foreign policy crisis for the White House and raised questions about the administrations reliance on Saudi Arabia as a key ally in the Middle East and bulwark against Iran.
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WastelandCowboy
11/16/18 10:54:43 PM
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President Trump has resisted pinning the blame for the killing on Mohammed, who enjoys a close relationship with Jared Kushner, the presidents son-in-law and senior adviser. Privately, aides said, Trump has been shown evidence of the princes involvement but remains skeptical that Mohammed ordered the killing.

The president has also asked CIA and State Department officials where Khashoggis body is and has grown frustrated that they have not been able to provide an answer. The CIA does not know the location of Khashoggis remains, according to the people familiar with the agencys assessment.

Among the intelligence assembled by the CIA is an audio recording from a listening device that the Turks placed inside the Saudi consulate, according to the people familiar with the matter. The Turks gave the CIA a copy of that audio, and the agencys director, Gina Haspel, has listened to it.

The audio shows that Khashoggi was killed within moments of entering the consulate, according to officials in multiple countries who have listened to it or been briefed on its contents. Khashoggi died in the office of the Saudi consul general, who can be heard expressing his displeasure that Khashoggis body now needed to be disposed of and the facility cleaned of any evidence, according to people familiar with the audio recording.

The CIA also examined a call placed from inside the consulate after the killing by an alleged member of the Saudi hit team, Maher Mutreb, a security official who has often been seen at the crown princes side and who was photographed entering and leaving the consulate on the day of the killing.

Mutreb called Saud al-Qahtani, then one of the top aides to Mohammed, and informed him that the operation had been completed, according to people familiar with the call.

This week, the Treasury Department sanctioned 17 individuals it said were involved in Khashoggis death, including Qahtani, Mutreb and the Saudi consul general in Turkey, Mohammad al-Otaibi.

The CIAs assessment of Mohammeds role in the assassination also tracks with information developed by foreign governments, according to officials in several European capitals who have concluded that the operation was too brazen to have taken place without Mohammeds direction.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said his government has shared the audio with Germany, France, the United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia.

In addition to calls and audio recordings, CIA analysts also linked some members of the Saudi hit team directly to Mohammed himself. Some of the 15 members have served on his security team and traveled in the United States during visits by senior Saudi officials, including the crown prince, according to passport records reviewed by The Washington Post.

The U.S. had also obtained intelligence before Khashoggis death that indicated he might be in danger. But it wasnt until after he disappeared, on Oct. 2, that U.S. intelligence agencies began searching archives of intercepted communications and discovered material indicating that the Saudi royal family had been seeking to lure Khashoggi back to Riyadh.

Two U.S. officials said there has been no indication that officials were aware of this intelligence in advance of Khashoggis disappearance or had missed any chance to warn him.

Khashoggi was not a person of interest, before his disappearance, and the fact that he was residing in Virginia meant that he was regarded as a U.S. person and therefore shielded from U.S. intelligence gathering, one of the officials said.

Trump has told senior White House officials that he wants Mohammed to remain in power because Saudi Arabia helps to check Iran, which the administration considers its top security challenge in the Middle East. He has said that he does not want the controversy over Khashoggis death to impede oil production by the kingdom.

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WastelandCowboy
11/16/18 10:55:08 PM
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One lingering question is why Mohammed might have decided to kill Khashoggi, who was not agitating for the crown princes removal.

A theory the CIA has developed is that Mohammed believed Khashoggi was a dangerous Islamist who was too sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood, according to people familiar with the assessment. Days after Khashoggi disappeared, Mohammed relayed that view in a phone call with Kushner and John Bolton, the national security adviser, who has long opposed the Brotherhood and seen it as a regional security threat.

Mohammeds private condemnation of the slain journalist stood in contrast to his governments public comments, which mourned Khashoggis killing as a terrible mistake and a tragedy.

U.S. officials are unclear on when or whether the Saudi government will follow through with its threatened executions of the individuals blamed for Khashoggis killing. It could happen overnight or take 20 years, the U.S. official said, adding that the treatment of subordinates could erode Mohammeds standing going forward.

In killing those who followed his orders, its hard to get the next set [of subordinates] to help, the official said.

John Hudson and Missy Ryan in Washington, Souad Mekhennet in Frankfurt, and Loveday Morris and Kareem Fahim in Istanbul contributed to this report.
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Doctor Foxx
11/16/18 10:55:52 PM
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And nothing will come from this administration that places no value on journalistic integrity or human safety
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argonautweakend
11/16/18 10:57:06 PM
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I thought this was pretty much known for weeks now?

Or didnt we know but were all assuming because it seemed like(and apparently is) the most likely scenaro
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WastelandCowboy
11/16/18 10:57:29 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
And nothing will come from this administration that places no value on journalistic integrity or human safety

Or instills high value on oil and selling weapons.
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Doctor Foxx
11/16/18 10:58:24 PM
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Kushner has his hands dirty in all of this as well. Let's not forget that

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/411971-kushner-and-saudi-prince-communicated-informally-on-whatsapp-report
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