Board 8 > Character Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 7

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*turns off B8 again*
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LeonhartFour posted...

*turns off B8 again*

how dare u rally on hentai subreddits

u r a sexual deviant
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this is a weird question but uh who wins Luigi or Ryu
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transcience posted...

this is a weird question but uh who wins Luigi or Ryu

I would take Frog over KOS-MOS every time.

I think.
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Losing 3 points on a dumb Monika pick was totally worth it for getting to play DDLC in the first place.

transcience posted...

this is a weird question but uh who wins Luigi or Ryu

I say Luigi in previous years, but Ryu has done very well so far
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Seph seems safe here

No idea what happens in the other one
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I wouldn't think twice about Luigi > Ryu
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I'd take Ryu > Luigi most years, this year included based on their performances. Ryu beat Bowser in 4 ways twice in 2007 (lost to roid Bowser in 2005 though) and has generally seemed stronger than Luigi more years than not. Probably real close though.
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if Tifa wins here, Samus beats Tifa and Mario beats Sephiroth.. we get Tifa/Sephiroth, which maybe isn't completely obvious going off of these results?

though I posted that before Sephiroth righted the ship vs. Ryu
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not liking Luigis chances here
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The Mana Sword posted...

not liking Luigis chances here

The rallies for Tifa started earlier this time.
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@Hbthebattle posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

not liking Luigis chances here

The rallies for Tifa started earlier this time.

Hi u/Hbthebattle
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Gg weegee
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Sephiroth is going to end this match looking pretty good, I think. Not beat Mario good, but still. Between this, Tifa and Aeris, maybe FF7 isnt in such dire straits after all.
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Lopen posted...

I'd take Ryu > Luigi most years, this year included based on their performances. Ryu beat Bowser in 4 ways twice in 2007 (lost to roid Bowser in 2005 though) and has generally seemed stronger than Luigi more years than not. Probably real close though.

Luigi beat Bowser in 2008.

But yeah, I'd take Luigi over Ryu.
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Rematches this year that had the potential to flip and didn't:

Donkey Kong vs. Vivi
Bowser vs. Kirby
Luigi vs. Tifa
Zelda vs. Aeris (okay not really)

GameFAQs...GameFAQs never changes.
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I can't get over the idea of offsite rallies to keep final fantasy relevant on gamefaqs
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KamikazePotato posted...

Rematches this year that had the potential to flip and didn't:

Donkey Kong vs. Vivi
Bowser vs. Kirby
Luigi vs. Tifa
Zelda vs. Aeris (okay not really)

GameFAQs...GameFAQs never changes.

We'll get plenty of opportunities to see if any results will flip in the next bracket!
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Ganon > Link look out
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I'm way more excited to see the Salty Runback matches than I should be. I don't think any of them flip unless they were super close to begin with, but what if the result changes by a whole .5%?????
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I know this will shock everyone but Seph's division probably looks crazy stat wise

I think Lara beats Shepard like 63-37
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This contest has just been a conga line of humiliation for Shepard.

-Almost loses to K. Rool
-Get blown out by Ryu
-Gets outdone by KOS-MOS on Ryu
-Ryu gets embarrassed by Sephiroth
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speaking of, I should copy these over. looks like we only have the first half but Leon can add them in when we finish up tomorrow

Division 1

Ganondorf 50.00%
Vivi 48.04%
Dante 43.60%
Donkey Kong 43.26%
Chun-Li 41.09%
Leon Kennedy 38.35%
Tidus 37.26%
Spyro the Dragon 36.02%
Lightning 29.98%
Cuphead 24.77%
Yu Narukami 24.13%
Dragonborn 24.02%
Aya Brea 23.59%
Neku Sakuraba 21.40%
Victor Sullivan 19.08%
Chloe Price 15.48%

Division 2

Pikachu 50.00%
Yoshi 45.20%
Zero 43.44%
Knuckles the Echidna 38.10%
Kratos 36.59%
Wario 34.53%
Scorpion 33.59%
Zidane Tribal 32.92%
Master Hand 26.96%
Velvet Crowe 26.55%
Monika 24.47%
Shantae 23.26%
Noctis Lucis Caelum 22.89%
Primrose 22.43%
James Sunderland 20.69%
John Marston 19.63%

Division 3

Alucard 50.00%
Pokemon Trainer Red 46.19%
Sora 45.36%
Big Boss 44.18%
Princess Peach 43.19%
Crash Bandicoot 41.64%
Kefka 40.56%
Yuna 40.38%
Ridley 38.29%
Cecil Harvey 38.16%
Bomberman 32.59%
L-Block 32.29%
Ryo Hazuki 28.05%
Kazuma Kiryu 25.50%
Neptune 22.80%
Godot 22.16%

Division 4

Bowser 50.00%
Kirby 46.14%
Charizard 43.45%
2B 41.81%
Terra Branford 41.02%
Ness 38.70%
Shadow the Hedgehog 36.17%
Phoenix Wright 29.24%
Ike 28.86%
Isaac 27.42%
Chris Redfield 25.19%
Guile 23.49%
Gordon Freeman 22.61%
Joel 21.74%
Estelle Bright 19.40%
Cayde-6 18.56%
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This might have been posted already, but just in case here are the Ultimate Losers for each division:

1: Ganondorf > Vivi > Donkey Kong > Leon > Dragonborn
2: Pikachu > Zero > Wario > Master Hand > Noctis
3: Alucard > Red > Big Boss > Crash > Cecil
4: Bowser > Kirby > Phoenix > Ike > Joel
5: Zelda > Aeris > Fox > D.Va > Aloy
6: Auron > Geralt > Bayonetta > Pac-Man > Sans
7: Luigi > Tifa > MMX > Ocelot > Dedede or Tifa > Luigi > Tails > Chief > Goro
8: Sephiroth > Ryu > KOS-MOS > Aqua > Quiet

Got a good chuckle out of some of those.
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Cecil Harvey not only never wins, he transfers it along like a communicable virus. Alucard is losing next round too!
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Maybe Luigi's not quite done yet!
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Division 5

Zelda 50.00%
Aerith Gainsborough 37.81%
Squall Leonhart 36.68%
Fox McCloud 35.77%
Jill Valentine 32.83%
Waluigi 32.19%
Captain Toad 30.26%
The Boss 29.30%
Shovel Knight 28.70%
Garrus Vakarian 26.39%
Ramza Beoulve 26.06%
Metal Sonic 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze 24.67%
D. Va 20.37%
Aloy 19.18%
Hat Kid 17.69%

Division 6

Auron 50.00%
Geralt 46.86%
Bayonetta 46.04%
Simon Belmont 44.81%
Vincent Valentine 44.20%
Pac-Man 44.13%
Ryu Hayabusa 44.10%
Sub-Zero 43.29%
Magus 42.53%
Rosalina 41.21%
Lucina 34.56%
Riku 32.77%
Shulk 32.41%
Claire Redfield 29.21%
Joker/Ren Amamiya 27.12%
Sans 25.27%
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Simon over Vincent what a world

I don't think Luigi can win this. he might get close but I think the rally would come in response. we've opened pandora's box.
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Luigi's got too much ground to make up. Even if he takes the lead before the night vote starts, he's going to lose it - not as bad as MMX, but he still will, and his day vote isn't going to be very strong.
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Yeah, neither of those stats really look totally clean to me. Geralt probably overperformed a bit, and either Squall underperformed or Aerith overperformed there, I think, although probably not by a significant margin.
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I think you can just adjust those stats until Ryu Hayabusa is a bit under Sub-Zero and call it a day. Things look a lot less weird then.
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That division was already chaotic enough, but it just goes to show how much more chaotic it could've been had you rearranged things a bit, like putting Riku up against Shulk or Lucina. It really is kind of crazy to see a division where 9 of the 15 characters break 40% on the winner.
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I think we should give huge props to the bracket maker. I question the big bracket's placement, but I did the baby bracket too and we got a lot of really good stuff.
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Division 3 and 6 in particular were really good this year, but every division had at least some intrigue somewhere except maybe 8. That is one of the benefits of having the Noble Nine set aside into another bracket (which makes it no surprise that Division 8 was probably the most predictable one).
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The only issue I have with the normal bracket - and this is not at all the fault of Allen - is that we missed out on some really nutty results that no one could have seen coming. Like, can you imagine the reaction to Shepard vs. KOS-MOS Round 1? Overall things were great though.
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X-Stat projections based on current percentages:

Division 7

Tifa Lockhart 50.00%
Mega Man X 49.82%
Luigi 49.26%
Mewtwo 41.90%
Frog 37.80%
Revolver Ocelot 31.48%
GlaDOS 31.44%
King Dedede 31.17%
Miles Tails Prower 29.90%
Geno 26.81%
Master Chief 26.62%
Nathan Drake 25.87%
Miles Edgeworth 22.20%
Isabelle 19.28%
Monokuma 17.86%
Goro Majima 16.50%

Division 8

Sephiroth 50.00%
Ryu 41.61%
Amaterasu 38.63%
Captain Falcon 35.07%
Lara Croft 34.84%
Albert Wesker 29.72%
KOS-MOS 29.07%
Commander Shepard 27.84%
Richter Belmont 27.78%
King K. Rool 27.15%
Ellie 26.48%
Lloyd Irving 26.26%
Aqua 24.77%
Metal Man 22.37%
Quiet 17.78%
Draven 9.16%

Quiet triples Draven for the record LOL
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Hmm. Not sure Id take Wesker over KOS-MOS. Not sure I buy Ammy that close to Ryu either, as great as it would be.

Div 7 looks okay. Dedede may be a little inflated, but nothing else looks weird to me.
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Well, for what it's worth, Ammy might be a little inflated because she actually did noticeably better once the hentai rallies started.

Wesker's been pretty decent since RE5 came out, too. If KOS-MOS beats him, I doubt it's by much.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Well, for what it's worth, Ammy might be a little inflated because she actually did noticeably better once the hentai rallies started.

Good grief. I legitimately have to remember to account for this when making the stats.

It's not that far off, though:

Sephiroth (2013c) has a strength of 38.89 against Base Link.
Amaterasu (2013c) has a strength of 29.35 against Base Link.
Sephiroth62.27%33,598
Amaterasu37.73%20,362
Sephiroth wins with 62.27% of the vote!
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I think the numbers are mostly fine. I believe in Lara so seeing her be pretty legit is fine by me.

I'm worried about Samus/Tifa though. we've already seen that be scary once, and now we have a potential rally on top of that.
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Tifa/Samus followed by Tifa/Seph could be interesting.
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people are blowing this Tifa rally thing out of proportion!

Id be shocked if she actually challenged Samus this year. that 2006 match was an anomaly.
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She did really well against her in 2013, too! Nowhere near as good, of course, but yeah. I don't think Tifa could actually win, of course, but I think she can do well again, especially if she picks up a bandwagon from winning back to back close matches against strong characters.
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Is it even possible for a Final Fantasy VII character to get a bandwagon? Nintendo fans might just be extra mad that Tifa beat some characters they like.
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maybe. I'm always skeptical of Samus after the Mario match. the Tifa one is just proof that she can be vulnerable vs. anyone. just feels like she could break against any good opponent.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Is it even possible for a Final Fantasy VII character to get a bandwagon? Nintendo fans might just be extra mad that Tifa beat some characters they like.

Tifa has always been the one who doesn't suffer from the early vote doldrums the rest of the FFVII characters do. If anyone could manage it, it's her.
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Tifa/Samus was largely ZSS being the only pic on the front page. You don't out-TJF Tifa.

Tifa also overperforms on like every female character she's ever faced. Her 2013 x-stat value is amazingly inflated because all she did was face chicks.
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looks like Tifa's in the clear

Rank the division winners in terms of strength:

Ganondorf
Pikachu
Alucard
Bowser
Zelda
Auron
Tifa
Sephiroth
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