Current Events > Final Fantasies are not fun to 100%..

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You have to be well aware of cutoffs and steal tables and just know already where everything is.

Not fun.
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Most games aren't fun to 100%.
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The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.
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Alpha218 posted...

The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.

To be fair there was a lot of stuff not related to FFX in that video, thanking people who've helped him, etc.
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Alpha218 posted...

The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.

I can only think of a handful of unique items

And most are like "this weapon has 3 slots and 2 effects on it but in an order that you can't get from any other 3 slot item that drops because of the order those abilities would appear in"

Followed by celestial weapons
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gunplagirl posted...

Alpha218 posted...

The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.

I can only think of a handful of unique items

And most are like "this weapon has 3 slots and 2 effects on it but in an order that you can't get from any other 3 slot item that drops because of the order those abilities would appear in"

Followed by celestial weapons

The Sphere Grid is massive, though. He had to max out the Sphere Grid with all characters. That alone would have to take like 50+ hours of grinding.

He also fought all of the Dark Aeons, as well as the superbosses and every unique monster mash-up at the monster ranch in the Calm Lands.
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I'd eat egg salad before I ever bother 100%ing FFX-2.
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MrMallard posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Alpha218 posted...

The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.

I can only think of a handful of unique items

And most are like "this weapon has 3 slots and 2 effects on it but in an order that you can't get from any other 3 slot item that drops because of the order those abilities would appear in"

Followed by celestial weapons

The Sphere Grid is massive, though. He had to max out the Sphere Grid with all characters. That alone would have to take like 50+ hours of grinding.

He also fought all of the Dark Aeons, as well as the superbosses and every unique monster mash-up at the monster ranch in the Calm Lands.

Zanmato makes the time input irrelevant for beating everything but the karma exp grind and time spent getting everyone to fill the entire sphere grid.
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While this is true, I've replayed FFVII so many fucking times I can recall 99% of what you need to 100% it from memory at any time. Enemy skills, out of the way items and Materia, every enemy worth robbing, all the missables.

The only things I need to check the guides for and refresh my memory sometimes are Chocobo breeding, the timing of Fort Condor battles, and getting the maximum number of duplicate items from dividing your party at the end of the North Crater.
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Zurkon posted...

I maxed out the sphere grid and stats (max luck on only 3 character) in FFX and I now have no desire to ever play that game again.

This was honestly one of the worst parts. Activating every node for 7 Characters takes like 2 hours cuz you can only do one at a time, and have to constantly grab more spheres /sphere lvs

Coulda cut the padding by having a 'Activate all available spheres' option and cut out at least a hour

CrimsonRage posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

Most games aren't fun to 100%.

gunplagirl posted...

MrMallard posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Alpha218 posted...

The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.

I can only think of a handful of unique items

And most are like "this weapon has 3 slots and 2 effects on it but in an order that you can't get from any other 3 slot item that drops because of the order those abilities would appear in"

Followed by celestial weapons

The Sphere Grid is massive, though. He had to max out the Sphere Grid with all characters. That alone would have to take like 50+ hours of grinding.

He also fought all of the Dark Aeons, as well as the superbosses and every unique monster mash-up at the monster ranch in the Calm Lands.

Zanmato makes the time input irrelevant for beating everything but the karma exp grind and time spent getting everyone to fill the entire sphere grid.

Using Yojimbo to cheese everything defeats the purpose of 100%ing the game
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gunplagirl posted...

Zanmato

Veghesther, is that you?
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Alpha218 posted...

gunplagirl posted...

MrMallard posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Alpha218 posted...

The Completionist recently put out a video about FFX. Its about 40 minutes long because theres just that much stuff to talk about.

I can only think of a handful of unique items

And most are like "this weapon has 3 slots and 2 effects on it but in an order that you can't get from any other 3 slot item that drops because of the order those abilities would appear in"

Followed by celestial weapons

The Sphere Grid is massive, though. He had to max out the Sphere Grid with all characters. That alone would have to take like 50+ hours of grinding.

He also fought all of the Dark Aeons, as well as the superbosses and every unique monster mash-up at the monster ranch in the Calm Lands.

Zanmato makes the time input irrelevant for beating everything but the karma exp grind and time spent getting everyone to fill the entire sphere grid.

Using Yojimbo to cheese everything defeats the purpose of 100%ing the game

By the time you get things on farm level, the only challenges are what, two arena creations, dark magus sisters, dark bahamut with bad rng, and penance?

Now if we're talking a NSG 100%, then everything but penance and maybe two other fights have been beat without zanmato. They just also happen to take 40+ minutes with rng magus sisters being super in your favor (like how it took 15+ years and thousands of hours for the dark anima clear).
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I agree. I only go for all chests and MAYBE 1 of each rare drop but even then I usually don't.
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Godnorgosh posted...

Some people think you need the max number of every item in your inventory to say you've fully completed a Final Fantasy game, which is dumb imo.

yeah lol. imagine spending hours upon hours just to get some rare drop with 1/256 chance of dropping and have to collect 98 more
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FF1 is impossible to 100%, on NES anyway.

_PrincessZelda posted...

They aren't even fun to begin with, never mind 100%'ing them.

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Shotgunnova posted...

I'd eat egg salad before I ever bother 100%ing FFX-2.

it's the huge reason why it's rated as a 7/10 on the difficulty. you have to do certain things in each chapter. one of which involves telling kimahri how to raise his kid. if you guess the wrong answer after a few chapters later you don't get the dressphere

both games took a month each to complete thankfully towards the end i managed to get a 100% ie perfect ending.
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Isn't IX impossible to 100%? I seem to recall that a sidequest was discovered that is incompatible with the "get almost to the end of the game in an absurdly short amount of time" sword's requirements.

The real fun in FFX doesn't come from maxing out the sphere grid, but from not using it at all. ;)
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_Rinku_ posted...

Isn't IX impossible to 100%? I seem to recall that a sidequest was discovered that is incompatible with the "get almost to the end of the game in an absurdly short amount of time" sword's requirements.

the ps1 version yes. the ps4 version was made easier due to the fact they had a skip cut-scene option and no encounters. leaves some leeway to 100% it.
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DarkTransient posted...

The real fun in FFX doesn't come from maxing out the sphere grid, but from not using it at all. ;)

That involves heavy abuse of Rikku's mixing ability, right?

kingdrake2 posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Isn't IX impossible to 100%? I seem to recall that a sidequest was discovered that is incompatible with the "get almost to the end of the game in an absurdly short amount of time" sword's requirements.

the ps1 version yes. the ps4 version was made easier due to the fact they had a skip cut-scene option and no encounters. leaves some leeway to 100% it.

Is the PAL PS4 version still kind of busted in that regard? I recall it being almost impossible to get the sword in the PS1 version due to it running slower than the NTSC edition.

_Rinku_ posted...

DarkTransient posted...

The real fun in FFX doesn't come from maxing out the sphere grid, but from not using it at all. ;)

That involves heavy abuse of Rikku's mixing ability, right?

That, or heavy abuse of aeons, would be the easy way to do it.

But you can slap additional restrictions on. No Sphere Grid, No Summoning, No Overdrives, No Escape, No "No Encounters", No Blitzball is probably the hardest one that's realistic to complete (only the storyline, not the sidequests). If you add No Customizing to that, it's realistic to reach Braska's Final Aeon, but very unrealistic to actually defeat him (not outright impossible, but it involves capturing 5 of every monster under the challenge's conditions - very tedious and difficult, though not overly luck-reliant at least - then farming Greater Sphere - possible to defeat but a 2hr+ fight - for a specific piece of equipment that has about a 5% chance of dropping, and even with all that and optimal strategy you still need a hell of a lot of luck to actually win the battle - to the point that over 10+ years, only one person is known to have ever accomplished it).

That aside, No Sphere Grid, No Summoning, No Doom makes for very interesting battles against Omega Weapon (PAL / International / HD version) or Jumbo Flan.
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kingdrake2 posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Isn't IX impossible to 100%? I seem to recall that a sidequest was discovered that is incompatible with the "get almost to the end of the game in an absurdly short amount of time" sword's requirements.

the ps1 version yes. the ps4 version was made easier due to the fact they had a skip cut-scene option and no encounters. leaves some leeway to 100% it.

The x2 speed option doesn't affect the in game time either iirc
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