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Johnbobb
11/29/18 11:04:34 AM
#1:


Capcom vs Bethesda - Results (41 votes)
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
9.76% (4 votes)
4
Fallout 76
90.24% (37 votes)
37
Both had a massive lack of hype leading to release (MvC because of roster choices and visual design, Fallout because of online-only and no human NPCs). Both had misleading and almost fraudulent collector's editions. Both had issues immediately upon release and terrible PR. Both saw immediate price nosedives due to terrible sales despite coming from hugely popular series. Both might have killed their respective franchises
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NowItsAngeTime
11/29/18 11:07:30 AM
#2:


People still play Marvel Infinite now and at least it isnt limited to online only

Fallout 76 is online only and I dont thinj as many passionate people will stick with

I honestly think SF5 was a bigger release disaster than Marvel which says a lot
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 11:08:23 AM
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Feel like Andromeda would have fit here as well.

Though I guess hopes for Andromeda were still high all the way up to release. I remember the poor impressions right before release coming out of nowhere.
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FinalFantasyIV
11/29/18 11:08:30 AM
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Well MvC got also got screwed by suprise competition that really made the flaws more glaring with DBFighterZ. It was also probably low budget.

Bethizzda basically just fucked themselves over for fun.
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Johnbobb
11/29/18 11:10:08 AM
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one thing worth noting is that Fallout can potentially eventually recover from its bugs

MvC can't ever recover from its terrible roster exclusions as long as Disney has any say
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Heroic Bigpun
11/29/18 11:10:59 AM
#6:


Infinite didn't have a Super bad release or anything, it was just not a good game.
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Luis_Sera89
11/29/18 11:13:03 AM
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People forget just how bad FF XIV 1.0 was, that's also pretty comparable. It just goes to show how good ARR is for salvaging that game that no-one remembers it's troubled beginnings.

Gives you hope for that rumoured MvC reboot that if Capcom can tap into any of that FF XIV magic then another redemption project could be on the cards.
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 11:14:28 AM
#8:


Johnbobb posted...
one thing worth noting is that Fallout can potentially eventually recover from its bugs

MvC can't ever recover from its terrible roster exclusions as long as Disney has any say


Fallout 76's problems are well beyond the bugs.

The game is just straight up bad.
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Samurai7
11/29/18 11:16:50 AM
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Maybe this will encourage Bethesda to refocus on their single player experience. If they really needed to push multiplayer I wish it just would've been a normal Bethesda game/world with 2 player co op.
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11/29/18 12:48:54 PM
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scarletspeed7
11/29/18 12:52:28 PM
#11:


Battlefield looks like it's getting disastrous.
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 12:54:59 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Battlefield looks like it's getting disastrous.


Only thing I've heard about that is that it's a middling entry.
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scarletspeed7
11/29/18 12:56:14 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Battlefield looks like it's getting disastrous.


Only thing I've heard about that is that it's a middling entry.

Sales are down 63% from Battlefield 1.
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 12:58:32 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Battlefield looks like it's getting disastrous.


Only thing I've heard about that is that it's a middling entry.

Sales are down 63% from Battlefield 1.


I mean, that's a whole different issue.
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scarletspeed7
11/29/18 12:59:57 PM
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I mean, the opening post didn't necessarily say anything aside from sales had to qualify a game for this category!
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Nanis23
11/29/18 1:03:40 PM
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Why is this poll so shitty
Way to ruin a potential for a good discussion
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 1:35:33 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
I mean, the opening post didn't necessarily say anything aside from sales had to qualify a game for this category!


It's not in the SPIRIT.
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 1:37:03 PM
#18:


I just remembered BFV even getting announced.

Oh boy I can't wait for a bunch of neckbeards to blame the sales on putting women in the game.
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hombad46
11/29/18 1:38:29 PM
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I haven't heard anything about MVC, while I've heard "physical copies" of Fallout 76 just come with cardboard discs with download codes so...
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STElNER
11/29/18 1:43:40 PM
#20:


Johnbobb posted...
Both might have killed their respective franchises


i don't know how fallout 76 could kill the fallout series when the biggest problem is that it is not a fallout game. it has not affected my opinion of fallout games or the series at all. just a bad game came out using its name.
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VeryInsane
11/29/18 1:45:41 PM
#21:


Battlefield V was released at a bad time more than anything

1 wasnt released right before Black Friday when a COD game was routinely around 40
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KingButz
11/29/18 1:47:12 PM
#22:


AC Unity
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hombad46
11/29/18 1:48:09 PM
#23:


STElNER posted...
Johnbobb posted...
Both might have killed their respective franchises


i don't know how fallout 76 could kill the fallout series when the biggest problem is that it is not a fallout game. it has not affected my opinion of fallout games or the series at all. just a bad game came out using its name.

Well Sticker Star managed to kill Paper Mario despite not being a Paper Mario game
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STElNER
11/29/18 1:50:00 PM
#24:


yeah but nintendo are obtuse enough to say "this is what we're making now, don't like it? okay!"
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Big Bob
11/29/18 1:50:16 PM
#25:


I was gonna say SimCity.
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PumpkinCoach
11/29/18 1:51:32 PM
#26:


PC Version of Arkham Knight

so bad they had to pull it from stores.
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ZenOfThunder
11/29/18 1:53:38 PM
#27:


What's the top 10 list?

No Man's Sky
Fallout 76
SimCity (2013)
Mass Effect Andromeda
Diablo III
Dungeon Keeper Mobile
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Batman: Arkham Knight (PC)
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017)

am i missing any other awful launches

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STElNER
11/29/18 1:55:05 PM
#28:


battlefront 2
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redrocket
11/29/18 1:56:36 PM
#29:


Johnbobb posted...
Both had misleading and almost fraudulent collector's editions.


Almost?
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Johnbobb
11/29/18 1:56:52 PM
#30:


hombad46 posted...
I haven't heard anything about MVC, while I've heard "physical copies" of Fallout 76 just come with cardboard discs with download codes so...

that can't be true
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redrocket
11/29/18 1:58:31 PM
#31:


I mean, a "physical copy" of an online only game is just a bad joke in any case.
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WarThaNemesis2
11/29/18 2:01:11 PM
#32:


Sega Saturn's release involved Sega lying to people making Saturn games about the release date.

Top that, bub.
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ZenOfThunder
11/29/18 2:15:24 PM
#33:


No Man's Sky
Fallout 76
SimCity (2013)
Mass Effect Andromeda
Diablo III
Dungeon Keeper Mobile
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Batman: Arkham Knight (PC)
Assassin's Creed Unity
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017)
Final Fantasy XIV
Dead Island
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
DriveClub
Metal Gear Survive

this is the list i got so far, any last minute suggestions?
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hombad46
11/29/18 2:17:05 PM
#34:


Johnbobb posted...
hombad46 posted...
I haven't heard anything about MVC, while I've heard "physical copies" of Fallout 76 just come with cardboard discs with download codes so...

that can't be true

https://d1lss44hh2trtw.cloudfront.net/assets/article/2018/11/15/fallout-76-cardboard-disc-pc-power-armor-special-edition_feature.jpg
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iiicon
11/29/18 2:20:21 PM
#35:


Johnbobb posted...
hombad46 posted...
I haven't heard anything about MVC, while I've heard "physical copies" of Fallout 76 just come with cardboard discs with download codes so...

that can't be true

yes, pc games ship with codes you redeem on steam (or in this case, the bethesda launcher). that's how it's been for most of the decade.
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WarThaNemesis2
11/29/18 2:22:30 PM
#36:


ZenOfThunder posted...
No Man's Sky
Fallout 76
SimCity (2013)
Mass Effect Andromeda
Diablo III
Dungeon Keeper Mobile
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Batman: Arkham Knight (PC)
Assassin's Creed Unity
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017)
Final Fantasy XIV
Dead Island
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
DriveClub
Metal Gear Survive

this is the list i got so far, any last minute suggestions?


Sega Saturn's launch resulted in many game stores pulling all Sega products.
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hombad46
11/29/18 2:23:17 PM
#37:


ZenOfThunder posted...
No Man's Sky
Fallout 76
SimCity (2013)
Mass Effect Andromeda
Diablo III
Dungeon Keeper Mobile
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Batman: Arkham Knight (PC)
Assassin's Creed Unity
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017)
Final Fantasy XIV
Dead Island
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
DriveClub
Metal Gear Survive

this is the list i got so far, any last minute suggestions?


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malyg
11/29/18 2:52:28 PM
#38:


ZenOfThunder posted...
What's the top 10 list?

No Man's Sky
Fallout 76
SimCity (2013)
Mass Effect Andromeda
Diablo III
Dungeon Keeper Mobile
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Batman: Arkham Knight (PC)
Assassin's Creed Unity
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017)
Final Fantasy XIV
Dead Island
Halo: The Master Chief Collection

am i missing any other awful launches

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That kotor MMO where Bioware had to remove the unsubscribe button or something similar
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FL81
11/29/18 4:30:40 PM
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Unbridled9
11/29/18 4:47:59 PM
#40:


ZenOfThunder posted...
No Man's Sky
Fallout 76
SimCity (2013)
Mass Effect Andromeda
Diablo III
Dungeon Keeper Mobile
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Batman: Arkham Knight (PC)
Assassin's Creed Unity
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017)
Final Fantasy XIV
Dead Island
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
DriveClub
Metal Gear Survive

this is the list i got so far, any last minute suggestions?


Remove Diablo III from there. While it wasn't too strong the game didn't totally bomb and managed to pull itself together.

What about Driver 3?

Diablo III and FFXIV also got good so I don't know if they really belong. Heck, XIV is currently in a position where it could, realistically, dethrone WoW.
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OliviaTremor
11/29/18 5:09:35 PM
#41:


No Man's Sky by leaps and bounds. Of the two you mentioned though Fallout.
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azuarc
11/29/18 6:07:08 PM
#42:


Unbridled9 posted...
FFXIV also got good so I don't know if they really belong. Heck, XIV is currently in a position where it could, realistically, dethrone WoW.

It was still a release disaster. The fact that it pulled up out of the nosedive isn't really the point. In fact, it's kind of a case study on what not to do, followed by how to fix it if you do.
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firefdr
11/29/18 6:48:05 PM
#43:


Diablo 3 was ok. The real money auction house came later IIRC
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AranShiizaa
11/29/18 6:57:50 PM
#44:


This poll is very biased. MvCI and it's not even fucking close.
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Xiahou Shake
11/29/18 7:01:06 PM
#45:


MvCI was an "okay" game, everything surrounding it was awful but it was more or less successfully swept under the rug. (People have largely forgotten about it at this point and most Capcom dialogue you'll hear these days is praise for MHW/MM11 and hype for DMC5/RE2)

76 is a bad game, everything surrounding it is even worse and it's resulting in one of the biggest backlashes we've seen since Battlefront 2. (Which is honestly pretty hard to top, seeing as it was the trigger for legislation pushes and investigations around the world regarding lootboxes/gambling in video games.)
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KokoroAkechi
11/29/18 7:02:30 PM
#46:


Arkham knight was literally pulled from steam
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 7:19:50 PM
#47:


AranShiizaa posted...
This poll is very biased. MvCI and it's not even fucking close.


What bias? It's literally just two games and the text is making a 1 to 1 comparison of them.
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 7:20:12 PM
#48:


KokoroAkechi posted...
Arkham knight was literally pulled from steam


Fallout 76 SHOULD BE but isn't, that's worse.
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Xiahou Shake
11/29/18 8:25:38 PM
#50:


LapisLazuli posted...
KokoroAkechi posted...
Arkham knight was literally pulled from steam


Fallout 76 SHOULD BE but isn't, that's worse.

76 isn't even on Steam! AFAIK it's exclusively available through Bethesda's own launcher. Darn shame, I'd love to see what shape the Steam reviews would be in right about now.
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LapisLazuli
11/29/18 8:27:42 PM
#51:


Xiahou Shake posted...

76 isn't even on Steam!


THEY KNEW
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