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LRodC
11/29/18 5:49:31 PM
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Just a reminder
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 5:50:57 PM
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In before Godnorgosh or another usual suspect posts dispute that claim with the same tired bullshit responses about how it's probably close to 85 million rather than 100 million, completely missing the point.

In before conflating capitalism and climate change.
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VectorChaos
11/29/18 5:52:25 PM
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In before No True Communism
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Doom_Art
11/29/18 5:52:35 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
conflating capitalism and climate change.

I hadn't considered this before but this actually makes perfect sense
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Tmaster148
11/29/18 5:53:01 PM
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But like who really cares? It's not like people don't already die.
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 5:53:16 PM
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SocialistGamer
11/29/18 5:54:28 PM
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How much has Christianity killed?
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Kineth
11/29/18 5:54:34 PM
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The 6 million number isn't accurate, but yes the point is that fascist and totalitarian governments are savage and bloodthirsty.
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VectorChaos
11/29/18 5:54:37 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
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Ryuko_Chan
11/29/18 5:56:13 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
conflating capitalism and climate change.

I hadn't considered this before but this actually makes perfect sense

Do you expect that if we turned communist we would just stop industrializing? WTF.
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 5:56:42 PM
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SocialistGamer posted...
How much has Christianity killed?

The Crusades: 1-3 million
The Inquisition: 1 million
30 Years War: 3 - 11 million
French Wars of Religion: 2-4 million
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Butterfiles
11/29/18 5:56:58 PM
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meanwhile you have capitalism, driving force behind pretty much every war in history
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Kineth
11/29/18 5:57:27 PM
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Butterfiles posted...
meanwhile you have capitalism, driving force behind pretty much every war in history


Blam.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 5:58:04 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
conflating capitalism and climate change.

I hadn't considered this before but this actually makes perfect sense


It makes literally no sense.
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thronedfire2
11/29/18 5:58:06 PM
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didn't poverty kill them?
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GrindcoreShark
11/29/18 6:00:55 PM
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 6:01:33 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
didn't poverty kill them?


It was a combination of poverty, starvation, and outright killing of people who didn't want to be part of the communist State.
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anth0ny
11/29/18 6:03:00 PM
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if we equate the intelligence of trump to capitalism
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andel
11/29/18 6:05:50 PM
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VectorChaos posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
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uhh p sure hitler murdered at least 11 million not to mention everyone that died in ww2 was because of him warmongering and starting the war
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 6:08:59 PM
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andel posted...
uhh p sure hitler murdered at least 11 million not to mention everyone that died in ww2 was because of him warmongering and starting the war

Stalin's Holodomor started in 1932. Hitler invaded Poland in 1939.
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PleaseClap
11/29/18 6:09:54 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
uhh p sure hitler murdered at least 11 million not to mention everyone that died in ww2 was because of him warmongering and starting the war

Stalin's Holodomor started in 1932. Hitler invaded Poland in 1939.

Do you think that the holodomor was a cause of ww2
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JE19426
11/29/18 6:15:44 PM
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Wrong, TC. It's killed no one.
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andel
11/29/18 6:16:18 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
uhh p sure hitler murdered at least 11 million not to mention everyone that died in ww2 was because of him warmongering and starting the war

Stalin's Holodomor started in 1932. Hitler invaded Poland in 1939.


that doesnt have anything to do with the holocaust or ww2
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Garioshi
11/29/18 6:19:07 PM
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VectorChaos posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
OzatAuK

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where the fuck are these numbers coming from
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 6:19:17 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
no one sane advocates for communism

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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 6:22:37 PM
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andel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
uhh p sure hitler murdered at least 11 million not to mention everyone that died in ww2 was because of him warmongering and starting the war

Stalin's Holodomor started in 1932. Hitler invaded Poland in 1939.


that doesnt have anything to do with the holocaust or ww2

It is weird to blame all the deaths in WWII on Hitler when Stalin and other Axis powers had already started genociding people before the war started. Unless you feel the people they killed during the war should be credited to Hitler because they happened during the war.
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averagejoel
11/29/18 6:24:17 PM
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Garioshi posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
OzatAuK

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where the fuck are these numbers coming from

the ass of whoever made this meme
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darkphoenix181
11/29/18 6:25:13 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
conflating capitalism and climate change.

I hadn't considered this before but this actually makes perfect sense


You got baited.
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darkphoenix181
11/29/18 6:26:52 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
uhh p sure hitler murdered at least 11 million not to mention everyone that died in ww2 was because of him warmongering and starting the war

Stalin's Holodomor started in 1932. Hitler invaded Poland in 1939.


that doesnt have anything to do with the holocaust or ww2

It is weird to blame all the deaths in WWII on Hitler when Stalin and other Axis powers had already started genociding people before the war started. Unless you feel the people they killed during the war should be credited to Hitler because they happened during the war.


Ye, not sure how the people bombed at pearl harbor have anything to donwith Hitler.
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Joelypoely
11/29/18 6:29:07 PM
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Butterfiles posted...
meanwhile you have capitalism, driving force behind pretty much every war in history


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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 6:30:59 PM
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Marxists blaming capitalism for wars is a huge deflection and massive historical inaccuracy. For example neither of the two world wars were fought because of capitalism.
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darkphoenix181
11/29/18 6:34:31 PM
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What does 2 kings trying to bully each other have to do with capitalism?
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mario2000
11/29/18 6:36:00 PM
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got any other hot takes tc or are you just another buttravaged redhat eternally mad that normal people don't like authoritarianism and nationalism?
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LRodC
11/29/18 6:39:35 PM
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mario2000 posted...
got any other hot takes tc or are you just another buttravaged redhat eternally mad that normal people don't like authoritarianism and nationalism?

Takes are opinions. What I said is fact.
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darkphoenix181
11/29/18 6:40:20 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
hitler killed more than 6 million. like a lot more. millions more. he kinda started this thing that led to at least 50 million dead. perhaps you've heard of it.


Where do you get 50?

Comparison of Communism and Nazism. Courtois considers Communism and Nazism to be distinct, but comparable totalitarian systems. He says that Communist regimes have killed "approximately 100 million people in contrast to the approximately 25 million victims of the Nazis".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 6:43:21 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Where do you get 50?

He means every single person killed in WWII is because of the Nazis, including the people who died in the Second Sino-Japanese War which was already in full swing two years before Hitler invaded Poland and didn't end until the nukes dropped.
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mario2000
11/29/18 6:47:37 PM
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LRodC posted...
mario2000 posted...
got any other hot takes tc or are you just another buttravaged redhat eternally mad that normal people don't like authoritarianism and nationalism?

Takes are opinions. What I said is fact.

so what is your opinion on that fact
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Irregardless
11/29/18 6:48:05 PM
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Natural causes has killed even more.

Ban nature
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 6:50:36 PM
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Irregardless posted...
Natural causes has killed even more.

Ban nature

Approximately 100 000 000 000 people have died due to the terminal condition of having been alive.
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Oakland510_
11/29/18 6:53:52 PM
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Are those millions including war crimes by the U.S. in the Vietnam war massacring innocent Vietnamese?
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awesome999
11/29/18 6:57:07 PM
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"Communism has killed 100 million people"

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people"

So apparently an ideology is more capable of murder than a weapon
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Anteaterking
11/29/18 6:57:52 PM
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awesome999 posted...
"Communism has killed 100 million people"

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people"

So apparently an ideology is more capable of murder than a weapon


That's because ideas are bulletproof.
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Master_Bass
11/29/18 6:58:07 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Irregardless posted...
Natural causes has killed even more.

Ban nature

Approximately 100 000 000 000 people have died due to the terminal condition of having been alive.

Ban life!
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 6:59:13 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
didn't poverty kill them?


It was a combination of poverty, starvation, and outright killing of people who didn't want to be part of the communist State.

Funny you ignore starvation death rates in capitalist countries or all of those people killed over economic (resource) acquisition. Striking workers getting killed by the police? All the people killed over oil. Banana republics being propped up by *le gasp* Western interests.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 7:02:26 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
didn't poverty kill them?


It was a combination of poverty, starvation, and outright killing of people who didn't want to be part of the communist State.

Funny you ignore starvation death rates in capitalist countries or all of those people killed over economic (resource) acquisition. Striking workers getting killed by the police? All the people killed over oil. Banana republics being propped up by *le gasp* Western interests.


The difference is that under capitalism, the vast majority of people don't starve. Whereas under socialism or communism everyone starves once the rationing systems fail. See: Soviet Union, Venezuela, Romania, etc.

We have a massive surplus of food in America thanks to capitalism. So much that we end up throwing food away because our supply chains and logistics technologies are still primitive due to how fast the globe developed. That'll be solved eventually too.

When the workers "seize the means of production" there's no food for anyone.
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 7:02:35 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
no one sane advocates for communism

Stephen Hawking said we're going to drive our race extinct under capitalism

So have plenty of recent economists

And that's not just because of global climate change but because of the allocation of resources dwindling for all but the ultra rich
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Kineth
11/29/18 7:03:07 PM
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Yeah, the black market is totally communist.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 7:04:02 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
WhinyZach posted...
no one sane advocates for communism

Stephen Hawking said we're going to drive our race extinct under capitalism

So have plenty of recent economists

And that's not just because of global climate change but because of the allocation of resources dwindling for all but the ultra rich


Appealing to authority and asserting doomsday scenarios are both pretty shitty arguments.
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