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Anteaterking
11/29/18 7:49:04 PM
#102:


averagejoel posted...
admittedly I don't know much about China, but records from the soviet union are readily available.

there's a great book about it called Fraud, Famine and Fascism by Douglas Tottle. a lot of it is about the famine in the Ukraine often called the "Holodomor", but it addresses many of the issues that are being parroted in this topic


Right, I was thinking more of like Romania and other non-USSR parts of the Eastern bloc.
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Tmaster148
11/29/18 7:51:18 PM
#103:


MrPeppers posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
andel posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
andel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
why do you people always deflect from hitler being evil to muh stalin?

Because for some insane reason being a Communist is considered a good thing.


nah, communism sucks but you are doing your best to try and make fascism seem not that bad. those of us without an agenda can easily call out evil for what it is


No he's not. He already explained his perspective. In this topic there are literal communists defending communism. On all of CE I think I've seen one or two fascists and they had the neo Nazi number in their username leading me to believe they were troll or fake accounts.

Hence why he isn't going to qualify every single damn post with caveats about fascism.


there was a guy in a topic last week who openly embraced being a fascist. those people exist here and there are many lurking on the internet


Proudclad is on a witch hunt for communist. He's off flaming people who he suspects to be communist, not that him believing they are communist makes them communist.


No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.


Except that Proudclad has literally called everyone he disagrees with communist before. He even made a topic once where he posted his "list of communist" and surprise surprise basically 95% of his list was nonsense.
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averagejoel
11/29/18 7:53:34 PM
#104:


MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful
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MrPeppers
11/29/18 7:54:35 PM
#105:


averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful


Well for what it's worth I'm hoping no one else thinks that.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 7:55:13 PM
#106:


averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful


https://imgur.com/dSRiQIh
https://imgur.com/ACn7I48
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Roxborough4Ever
11/29/18 7:55:23 PM
#107:


who cares? trump is the bad man.
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 7:55:51 PM
#108:


averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful

I don't want to either

But given historical precedent, eating the rich IS a proven method that gets results
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MrPeppers
11/29/18 7:57:30 PM
#109:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful


https://imgur.com/dSRiQIh
https://imgur.com/ACn7I48


Really hoping that's not true because that just made my stomach turn...
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 7:57:31 PM
#110:


averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful

Bruh...
1i7PvKQ
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 7:58:40 PM
#111:


@Rimmer_Dall

I didn't have that angle in my collection. Thanks!

*saves*
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:01:07 PM
#112:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.

he also tells blatant lies about how I want to kill children, "the noncompliant", and anyone who's successful

Bruh...
1i7PvKQ

Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years
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averagejoel
11/29/18 8:01:47 PM
#113:


MrPeppers posted...
Really hoping that's not true because that just made my stomach turn...

that first post is completely divorced from context. Proudclad either knows this and is being obtuse, or he lacks basic reading comprehension. I have explained this before and I will do it again if necessary, but I would rather not.

and saying that the killing of the French royal family was necessary =/= wanting to kill children
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:02:02 PM
#114:


gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years


It does. And certain CEmen who openly identify as communists advocate those things and want those things a la a violent communist revolution in the modern day.
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 8:02:03 PM
#115:


gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.
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andel
11/29/18 8:03:14 PM
#116:


MrPeppers posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
andel posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
andel posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
why do you people always deflect from hitler being evil to muh stalin?

Because for some insane reason being a Communist is considered a good thing.


nah, communism sucks but you are doing your best to try and make fascism seem not that bad. those of us without an agenda can easily call out evil for what it is


No he's not. He already explained his perspective. In this topic there are literal communists defending communism. On all of CE I think I've seen one or two fascists and they had the neo Nazi number in their username leading me to believe they were troll or fake accounts.

Hence why he isn't going to qualify every single damn post with caveats about fascism.


there was a guy in a topic last week who openly embraced being a fascist. those people exist here and there are many lurking on the internet


Proudclad is on a witch hunt for communist. He's off flaming people who he suspects to be communist, not that him believing they are communist makes them communist.


No offense man but averagejoel and gunplagirl are pretty open communists. Topics like these are just low energy controversy, but theyre by no means whatsoever witch hunts.


neither of those people are serious posters and shouldnt be taken seriously. gunpla is a concern troll who tries to make trans people and people on the left look bad and averagejoel has a very low tier trolling shtick
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Tmaster148
11/29/18 8:03:29 PM
#117:


Also I'm not sure why Proudclad even cares about the death of children. He doesn't want the government to vaccinate children.
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:04:05 PM
#118:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. The reasoning behind the stance makes sense. Never said I'd advocate for killing the royal family. The French already did that years ago.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:04:08 PM
#119:


averagejoel posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Really hoping that's not true because that just made my stomach turn...

that first post is completely divorced from context. Proudclad either knows this and is being obtuse, or he lacks basic reading comprehension. I have explained this before and I will do it again if necessary, but I would rather not.

and saying that the killing of the French royal family was necessary =/= wanting to kill children


The first one has all the relevant context. I have the entire topic saved and can go find it if someone really believes your bullshit about it not being the entire context.

And you said killing the French royal family was necessary and justified. Which means you think it was the right thing to do. And your reason for why it was necessary and justified would also apply to any subsequent communist revolution. Logically that entails that whenever you defend a violent revolution as defined by Marx, you advocate the murder of any children who happen to have successful or non-compliant parents.

That is literally what the worldview entails. It's better to just admit you were wrong and to just retract those beliefs and move on with new beliefs, than to pretend there's somehow some deeper nuance.
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andel
11/29/18 8:05:22 PM
#120:


so there are actual screenshots of averagejoel endorsing murdering of children...that should be enough to either acknowledge he isnt a serious poster or that he shouldnt be taken seriously at the least because that is a despicable comment
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averagejoel
11/29/18 8:05:37 PM
#121:


gunplagirl posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. The reasoning behind the stance makes sense. Never said I'd advocate for killing the royal family. The French already did that years ago.

I never said I'd advocate for it either but that hasn't stopped Proudclad
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:06:08 PM
#122:


andel posted...
neither of those people are serious posters and shouldnt be taken seriously. gunpla is a concern troll who tries to make trans people and people on the left look bad and averagejoel has a very low tier trolling shtick


No, they're both serious. And there are several other active CEmen who have expressed the same views, or thinly veiled variants of the same views.

Probably all of them are the dregs of resetera and r/LateStageCapitalism and other radical-left safe spaces.
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 8:06:30 PM
#123:


andel posted...
neither of those people are serious posters and shouldnt be taken seriously. gunpla is a concern troll who tries to make trans people and people on the left look bad and averagejoel has a very low tier trolling shtick

No, you're thinking of FrisbeeDude. Pretty sure plaga and joel are for real. They match the shit I read in places like ChapoTrapHouse and LateStageCapitalism too well.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:06:46 PM
#124:


andel posted...
so there are actual screenshots of averagejoel endorsing murdering of children...that should be enough to either acknowledge he isnt a serious poster or that he shouldnt be taken seriously at the least because that is a despicable comment


I fucking PM'd them to you before, didn't I? When you didn't believe me that there are CEmen who advocate revolutionary violence and are outright communists.
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:07:27 PM
#125:


@andel
I'm trans and you can bitch all you want about it but we already had this discussion the other day about how you're fucking horrible and an otherwise inexcusable person when you had 3 other posters confirming I'm real.

That is to say, you don't actually care about anything other than attacking trans people who don't fit your perceived stereotype. And it's not a good stereotype.
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Tmaster148
11/29/18 8:07:41 PM
#126:


Also proof Proudclad is Anti-Vaccine:

https://imgur.com/2FhLJ9I
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andel
11/29/18 8:08:22 PM
#127:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
andel posted...
so there are actual screenshots of averagejoel endorsing murdering of children...that should be enough to either acknowledge he isnt a serious poster or that he shouldnt be taken seriously at the least because that is a despicable comment


I fucking PM'd them to you before, didn't I? When you didn't believe me that there are CEmen who advocate revolutionary violence and are outright communists.


nah you pm'ed me something about antifar that was a stretch and still is
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:08:55 PM
#128:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
andel posted...
neither of those people are serious posters and shouldnt be taken seriously. gunpla is a concern troll who tries to make trans people and people on the left look bad and averagejoel has a very low tier trolling shtick

No, you're thinking of FrisbeeDude. Pretty sure plaga and joel are for real. They match the shit I read in places like ChapoTrapHouse and LateStageCapitalism too well.


Nah FrisbeeDude is for real too.

And yeah, glad to see someone else noticed the absolute cesspit that is LateStageCapitalism. Wouldn't be surprised if everyone who frequents it is on a terrorist watchlist tbqh.
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Cheater87
11/29/18 8:08:59 PM
#129:


How much has capitalism killed die to wars and starvation, along with heathcare and other things?
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Rimmer_Dall
11/29/18 8:09:23 PM
#130:


andel posted...
nah you pm'ed me something about antifar that was a stretch and still is

I mean, sure, Antifar is saner than joel and plaga, and says some intelligent stuff sometimes, but he's also an antifa. >_>
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:09:26 PM
#131:


averagejoel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. The reasoning behind the stance makes sense. Never said I'd advocate for killing the royal family. The French already did that years ago.

I never said I'd advocate for it either but that hasn't stopped Proudclad

That's the same proudclad who liked kodomo no jikan for exactly the same reason as marth.
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andel
11/29/18 8:09:36 PM
#132:


gunplagirl posted...
@andel
I'm trans and you can bitch all you want about it but we already had this discussion the other day about how you're fucking horrible and an otherwise inexcusable person when you had 3 other posters confirming I'm real.

That is to say, you don't actually care about anything other than attacking trans people who don't fit your perceived stereotype. And it's not a good stereotype.


nah, your 'opinion' is just obvious concern trolling and anyone on an anonymous message board can claim anything, it is beyond obvious what your gimmick is and i ain't buying it
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:10:20 PM
#133:


andel posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
andel posted...
so there are actual screenshots of averagejoel endorsing murdering of children...that should be enough to either acknowledge he isnt a serious poster or that he shouldnt be taken seriously at the least because that is a despicable comment


I fucking PM'd them to you before, didn't I? When you didn't believe me that there are CEmen who advocate revolutionary violence and are outright communists.


nah you pm'ed me something about antifar that was a stretch and still is


Antifar is certainly a socialist / Marxist who said he sees nothing wrong with political violence and destruction of private property. He's also supported violent revolution, although to his credit he has stopped short of expressing any truly heinous beliefs like the ones in this topic.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:11:03 PM
#134:


gunplagirl posted...
averagejoel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. The reasoning behind the stance makes sense. Never said I'd advocate for killing the royal family. The French already did that years ago.

I never said I'd advocate for it either but that hasn't stopped Proudclad

That's the same proudclad who liked kodomo no jikan for exactly the same reason as marth.


I literally have no idea what that is. Had to google it. I've never watched any of that or even heard of it.
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VectorChaos
11/29/18 8:15:25 PM
#135:


I don't keep screenshots of this shit but joel also said one day he thought it would be a terrific idea to put any dissenters to his revolution fantasy away to labor in "re-education camps"

Anyone with an iota of sense knows what the fuck that really means.
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kayoticdreamz
11/29/18 8:15:30 PM
#136:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
OzatAuK

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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:16:43 PM
#137:


VectorChaos posted...
I don't keep screenshots of this shit but joel also said one day he thought it would be a terrific idea to put any dissenters to his revolution fantasy away to labor in "re-education camps"

Anyone with an iota of sense knows what the fuck that really means.


I'd have to do some digging to double-check but I might actually have that.

There's a new text-extraction tool put out by AWS that can be used to scrape text from any type of document, be it PDFs or saved webpages or etc. Might just pay for a few hours of that to mess around with it and see if it makes my archive easier to search tbqh.
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Tmaster148
11/29/18 8:18:17 PM
#138:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
There's a new text-extraction tool put out by AWS that can be used to scrape text from any type of document, be it PDFs or saved webpages or etc. Might just pay for a few hours of that to mess around with it and see if it makes my archive easier to search tbqh.


This is rather pathetic. Even by the already low standards of Proudclad.
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VTBM
11/29/18 8:23:42 PM
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:23:49 PM
#140:


andel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
@andel
I'm trans and you can bitch all you want about it but we already had this discussion the other day about how you're fucking horrible and an otherwise inexcusable person when you had 3 other posters confirming I'm real.

That is to say, you don't actually care about anything other than attacking trans people who don't fit your perceived stereotype. And it's not a good stereotype.


nah, your 'opinion' is just obvious concern trolling and anyone on an anonymous message board can claim anything, it is beyond obvious what your gimmick is and i ain't buying it

Cis man thinks he can tell who is and isn't trans, is actually wrong, also creepily asked for pictures to verify that I'm trans with the exact wording that necessitated violating the ToS to probe such things

In other news, antivaxxer's children experience illnesses their parents never did, more at 11

(That's my way of saying you're a loon)
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:24:59 PM
#141:


Maybe andel thinking you're a concern-troll should be some evidence that your general way of posturing yourself and your broader views are...in need of some correction.

I mean when someone on your own goddam side says those things about you, you should probably listen for a change instead of just blabbering on and on about cis man this and cis man that.
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:25:27 PM
#142:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
averagejoel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. The reasoning behind the stance makes sense. Never said I'd advocate for killing the royal family. The French already did that years ago.

I never said I'd advocate for it either but that hasn't stopped Proudclad

That's the same proudclad who liked kodomo no jikan for exactly the same reason as marth.


I literally have no idea what that is. Had to google it. I've never watched any of that or even heard of it.

Whatever helps you sleep at night

For instance, I know you sleep better knowing that America is #winning the trade war as evidenced by GM laying off a chunk of their work force in the US
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:26:37 PM
#143:


gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
averagejoel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Gosh it's almost like Europe has a history of dozens of instances of families avenging their relatives over the course of dozens of wars spanning hundreds of years

And now we can say gunplagagirl supports the killing of children too.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. The reasoning behind the stance makes sense. Never said I'd advocate for killing the royal family. The French already did that years ago.

I never said I'd advocate for it either but that hasn't stopped Proudclad

That's the same proudclad who liked kodomo no jikan for exactly the same reason as marth.


I literally have no idea what that is. Had to google it. I've never watched any of that or even heard of it.

Whatever helps you sleep at night

For instance, I know you sleep better knowing that America is #winning the trade war as evidenced by GM laying off a chunk of their work force in the US


GM laid off a chunk of their work force because they're pivoting from gas-powered cars to electric cars and need to repurpose their assets and assembly lines in that direction.

And I don't support the tariffs. Not now, and not when Bernie Sanders wanted them.
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andel
11/29/18 8:26:46 PM
#144:


gunplagirl posted...
andel posted...
gunplagirl posted...
@andel
I'm trans and you can bitch all you want about it but we already had this discussion the other day about how you're fucking horrible and an otherwise inexcusable person when you had 3 other posters confirming I'm real.

That is to say, you don't actually care about anything other than attacking trans people who don't fit your perceived stereotype. And it's not a good stereotype.


nah, your 'opinion' is just obvious concern trolling and anyone on an anonymous message board can claim anything, it is beyond obvious what your gimmick is and i ain't buying it

Cis man thinks he can tell who is and isn't trans, is actually wrong, also creepily asked for pictures to verify that I'm trans with the exact wording that necessitated violating the ToS to probe such things

In other news, antivaxxer's children experience illnesses their parents never did, more at 11

(That's my way of saying you're a loon)


uhh no, i have never asked you or anyone else for pics of themselves.

obvious concern troll now trying to desperately make things up to deflect from the obvious
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:27:06 PM
#145:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Maybe andel thinking you're a concern-troll should be some evidence that your general way of posturing yourself and your broader views are...in need of some correction.

I mean when someone on your own goddam side says those things about you, you should probably listen for a change instead of just blabbering on and on about cis man this and cis man that.


Cis people who think they know trans issues better than trans people.

That's what Andel is. He's the concern gatekeeper troll.

Tell me, do you have to ever ask somebody to treat you with the basic dignity of a human being? Well, maybe not you. Does your mother ever have to ask somebody to treat you with the basic dignity of a human being?
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:28:15 PM
#146:


@FLUFFYGERM
Bernie is a hack, I think we can agree on that much?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:28:16 PM
#147:


gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Maybe andel thinking you're a concern-troll should be some evidence that your general way of posturing yourself and your broader views are...in need of some correction.

I mean when someone on your own goddam side says those things about you, you should probably listen for a change instead of just blabbering on and on about cis man this and cis man that.


Cis people who think they know trans issues better than trans people.

That's what Andel is. He's the concern gatekeeper troll.

Tell me, do you have to ever ask somebody to treat you with the basic dignity of a human being? Well, maybe not you. Does your mother ever have to ask somebody to treat you with the basic dignity of a human being?


What?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:32:09 PM
#148:


gunplagirl posted...
@FLUFFYGERM
Bernie is a hack, I think we can agree on that much?


I liked his infrastructure and renewables plans tbqh. I'm surprised you don't like him. Why don't you like him?

And rather than find something to agree on maybe if you're hot we can just hate-fuck and get on with our day tbqh.

*lick*
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gunplagirl
11/29/18 8:37:41 PM
#150:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
@FLUFFYGERM
Bernie is a hack, I think we can agree on that much?


I liked his infrastructure and renewables plans tbqh. I'm surprised you don't like him. Why don't you like him?

And rather than find something to agree on maybe if you're hot we can just hate-fuck and get on with our day tbqh.

*lick*


To quote my favorite line from Cruel Intentions

"I don't fuck losers"
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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 8:39:49 PM
#151:


gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
@FLUFFYGERM
Bernie is a hack, I think we can agree on that much?


I liked his infrastructure and renewables plans tbqh. I'm surprised you don't like him. Why don't you like him?

And rather than find something to agree on maybe if you're hot we can just hate-fuck and get on with our day tbqh.

*lick*


To quote my favorite line from Cruel Intentions

"I don't fuck losers"


Sounds like you don't fuck anyone tbqh
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MrPeppers
11/29/18 8:39:49 PM
#152:


gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
@FLUFFYGERM
Bernie is a hack, I think we can agree on that much?


I liked his infrastructure and renewables plans tbqh. I'm surprised you don't like him. Why don't you like him?

And rather than find something to agree on maybe if you're hot we can just hate-fuck and get on with our day tbqh.

*lick*


To quote my favorite line from Cruel Intentions

"I don't fuck losers"


Damn, you don't masturbate?
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