Current Events > Former SNL writer pulled from stage because his jokes were deemed too offensive

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

During the event, Patels performance featured commentary on his experience living in a diverse area of New York Cityincluding a joke about a gay, black man in his neighborhoodwhich AAA officials deemed inappropriate. Patel joked that being gay cannot be a choice because no one looks in the mirror and thinks, this black thing is too easy, let me just add another thing to it.

What the fuck? This is a pro-gay and pro-black joke. Have SJWs turned into robots incapable of detecting humor?

Agreeing with both groups saying that they may find difficulty in society on top of saying being gay isn't a choice. The opposite of being progressive now days.

Secret anti-Soros "SJW" Illuminati group conspiracy is ever growing
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AdviceMan posted...

Nah, it depends. You're booking? You find out about the comic. You're trying to get booked? You find out about the venue. If you invited Dave Chappelle to do a kindergarten show, you'd just be dumb.

Absolutely none of these things absolves the comic from his responsibility of knowing what type of event he is walking into. Whether or not his set goes well 100% depends on his ability to do that. He owes it to himself more than he does the venue.

And yes it would be misguided to hire Dave Chapelle to perform for kindergartners, but if that did happen I would expect Dave to be able to realize who he is performing for and tell jokes that are funny to kindergartners
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eston posted...

AdviceMan posted...

Nah, it depends. You're booking? You find out about the comic. You're trying to get booked? You find out about the venue. If you invited Dave Chappelle to do a kindergarten show, you'd just be dumb.

Absolutely none of these things absolves the comic from his responsibility of knowing what type of event he is walking into. Whether or not his set goes well 100% depends on his ability to do that. He owes it to himself more than he does the venue.

And yes it would be misguided to hire Dave Chapelle to perform for kindergartners, but if that did happen I would expect Dave to be able to realize who he is performing for and tell jokes that are funny to kindergartners

Okay, we more or less agree. I'm not defending his set.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Kineth posted...

Rimmer_Dall posted...

It's not like the audience was booing him or anything. It was the event organizers that decided it was too much and kicked him off.

So the people who invited him and were going to pay him didn't like the job he was doing. *shrug*

I thought you were better than this.

I don't know if I think that's true.
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If I was a comedian and a group hired me to do a show, I would expect that they knew what my comedy was, and that's what they wanted to hear. It sounds like they just googled "Asian American Comics" and picked him without ever hearing his content. It's like if a Roman Catholic group just looked up catholic artists, hired Andres Serrano, and got upset when he shows up with Piss Christ.

As far as the "read your audience," comments go, yeah, that's valid to a point. But here's the thing, comics don't have material for every audience, and good material is rarely just some spontaneous joke that they can conjure on stage. If this guy has a set he's been working on for a year, he might not have another one outside of that to fall back on that the audience would accept. Great comedians bomb all the time, and they can't always just change their set midway through because sets are carefully designed and built and rehearsed.

That's not to say Patel handled bombing well, because he didn't. But all you have to do is go on youtube and watch a few veteran comedians tell stories about bombing to know that it's not as easy as "read your audience."
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Hilarious how they don't cut the mic when he's telling "offensive" jokes, but they cut it as soon as he starts reminding people what the real world is like.
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Comedy is dying guys, fuck SJWs

Maybe people should learn to tell inoffensive jokes.

Do you even understand comedy?
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codey posted...

As far as the "read your audience," comments go, yeah, that's valid to a point. But here's the thing, comics don't have material for every audience, and good material is rarely just some spontaneous joke that they can conjure on stage. If this guy has a set he's been working on for a year, he might not have another one outside of that to fall back on that the audience would accept. Great comedians bomb all the time, and they can't always just change their set midway through because sets are carefully designed and built and rehearsed.

That's not to say Patel handled bombing well, because he didn't. But all you have to do is go on youtube and watch a few veteran comedians tell stories about bombing to know that it's not as easy as "read your audience."

Here's the thing though, if you're performing comedy and people aren't laughing at the jokes, you try some different material. You try to play it off somehow. You can't tell me these lame ass jokes are all he has. He is an award-winning comedy writer.

There are a lot of ways to get an audience back that do not involve being condescending and sucking all the air out of the room.
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His reaction was worse than the joke and I'm not surprised he was pulled

Good

eh being a good comedy writer and being a good comedian are relatively different skillsets
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They are, but he does both
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either everything is funny, or nothing is.....dun dun dun
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eston posted...

codey posted...

As far as the "read your audience," comments go, yeah, that's valid to a point. But here's the thing, comics don't have material for every audience, and good material is rarely just some spontaneous joke that they can conjure on stage. If this guy has a set he's been working on for a year, he might not have another one outside of that to fall back on that the audience would accept. Great comedians bomb all the time, and they can't always just change their set midway through because sets are carefully designed and built and rehearsed.

That's not to say Patel handled bombing well, because he didn't. But all you have to do is go on youtube and watch a few veteran comedians tell stories about bombing to know that it's not as easy as "read your audience."

Here's the thing though, if you're performing comedy and people aren't laughing at the jokes, you try some different material. You try to play it off somehow. You can't tell me these lame ass jokes are all he has. He is an award-winning comedy writer.

There are a lot of ways to get an audience back that do not involve being condescending and sucking all the air out of the room.

Award winning for writing shows. Nearly every comedian will tell you that comedy writers put all their focus into their day job, and it leaves their standup worse for it.

Comedy writing and standup are both part of comedy as a whole, but they're two very different careers within it. Like, the guys on Always Sunny are hilarious and write great episodes but they're not going to be able to just go put on a standup show just because they're funny.

I agreed that he handled bombing poorly, btw. I just disagree with the assertion that he can simply read the room and switch his set on the fly.
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It's not really an either/or in this case. He is a comedy writer who also does standup comedy. If he didn't know how to do standup it is unlikely he would be getting gigs like this
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I didn't say it was. What I did say was that tmost comedians that do both tend to have their standup suffer because of it. They're spreading themselves across two disciplines, and they're going to have less time to develop material. That means he's not going to have a wealth of good material to fall back on if his primary stuff isn't working out.

Again, I said he handled it poorly. I'm just trying to expand on why he likely reacted to bombing in that way.

Also, if this is the bulk of material, it's a very real possibility they, like I said, simply googled "Asian American comics," and he they hired after seeing he had won awards with SNL without ever hearing his actual standup, especially considering YouTube only has around 6 minutes of old material from him. College kids hiring entertainers for an event aren't going to comedy clubs to scout talent, especially if the event isn't primarily a comedy show.
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His joke isnt offensive and actually funny. SJWs have killed comedy. Hope everyone likes hearing about why the chicken crossed the road. Or is that offensive to chickens?

codey posted...

I didn't say it was. What I did say was that tmost comedians that do both tend to have their standup suffer because of it. They're spreading themselves across two disciplines, and they're going to have less time to develop material. That means he's not going to have a wealth of good material to fall back on if his primary stuff isn't working out.

I'm sorry but all you're doing is making up excuses. For someone who bills himself and takes paying gigs as a standup comedian it's not terribly unreasonable to expect him to be good at it
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eston posted...

codey posted...

I didn't say it was. What I did say was that tmost comedians that do both tend to have their standup suffer because of it. They're spreading themselves across two disciplines, and they're going to have less time to develop material. That means he's not going to have a wealth of good material to fall back on if his primary stuff isn't working out.

I'm sorry but all you're doing is making up excuses. For someone who bills himself and takes paying gigs as a standup comedian it's not terribly unreasonable to expect him to be good at it

Jesus dude I'm saying he did a bad job. He's probably not a great standup. Why can't you accept a little nuance in the discussion? All I'm doing is trying to discuss WHY he's bad.
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The entire thing is just a bunch of students at an Ivy League culture club. They probably got him because he was Asian and offering to do it for cheap. Probably couldn't afford Aziz Ansari or Awkwafina for something different lol.

The article by the friend and suitemate of the organizers doesn't hold much weight. It's just another student's opinion. A friend at that. It also sounds like the board, which is again a bunch of other students, didn't like the joke and already started moving towards getting him out.

He performs at the Comedy Celler just a few miles south by NYU which is usually crawling with NYU students, as well as clubs around the city, so he figured the reaction wouldn't be that massively different. I'm sure he's used the same bits there. Nothing about a culture event means he has to change things. I've been to tons of these types of events in and around the city, and the point of the comedian parts is that they're gonna give a regular stand up act, like you'd find in the comedy clubs in Times Square or downtown.

He didn't know how to counter the reactions and tried to use the "well shit wasn't like this when I was in college just 10-14 years ago" and he's 100% right. It wasn't. You wouldn't have to change bits around back then. All this does is give a case for other comedians to further avoid colleges. Being realistic, some of the big names already know this. This guy as a relative newbie, didn't.
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WilliamPorygon posted...

Did they at least do that thing where the long cane reaches from off-stage and hooks him?

Lmao
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