Poll of the Day > Do you say 'actress' or 'actor' for female actors?

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CHROM6
12/09/18 4:25:06 PM
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Actor is feminist
Actress is not.

Actress.
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Entity13
12/09/18 5:14:57 PM
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I use either one, honestly, because neither word seems unfitting.
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Alexandra_Trent
12/09/18 5:25:36 PM
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Actress
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LinkPizza
12/09/18 5:27:30 PM
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Normally Actress...
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Kyuubi4269
12/09/18 5:29:11 PM
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Singular, actress.
Plural, actors.
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ParanoidObsessive
12/09/18 6:19:54 PM
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Actress, because I actually consider referring to female actors as actors to be MORE sexist.

"Actress" only has negative connotations because sexism equates the female version of the archetype as being inherently inferior to the male (under the assumption that, all things being equal, the female will always be inferior to the male). By refusing to use the gendered terminology, you're essentially conceding the point and saying the only way to validate yourself is to use the same term males use. It is implicitly accepting that the valid female term is somehow shameful.

The better solution is to own "actress" and strive to make it the equal of (if not better than) the corresponding male term. Be proud, and don't let other people's perceptions taint terminology. Pull the word back up, rather than throwing it away.

It's also kind of ironic that the same period where feminists were pushing the idea that terms like actress or stewardess were sexist and should be done away with was around the same time a lot of feminists were "taking back" the word "bitch" and using it as a term for female empowerment. Which is kind of counter-intuitive double standards at work.


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Lokarin
12/09/18 6:20:48 PM
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If they were mtf, the feminists would be saying calling them an actor is deadnaming them... or deadcareering idk
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Bugmeat
12/09/18 6:28:32 PM
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Actor. In most career titles I don't bother with male/female versions of the job. If there is a gender neutral title, like flight attendant instead of steward/stewardess, I will use that. If not, I use the male version by default. In most cases.
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Yellow
12/09/18 6:42:09 PM
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Actor

CHROM6 posted...
Actor is feminist
Actress is not.

Actress.

Que?
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Kyuubi4269
12/09/18 6:45:18 PM
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Yellow posted...
CHROM6 posted...
Actor is feminist
Actress is not.

Actress.

Que?

Actors are dirty hippies
Actresses are hot.
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Yellow
12/09/18 6:47:46 PM
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Triggered?

Saying words I don't use is SJW and quite frankly offensive.
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TallTamryu
12/09/18 7:18:25 PM
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Both honestly, no reason other than somebody who acts is an actor and it fits too.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/09/18 8:05:25 PM
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actress, because that is what they are. actor is for men, actress is for women.

it's not that complicated.
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darcandkharg31
12/09/18 8:16:58 PM
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How can all Actresses be an Actor but not all Actors can be Actresses? Blatant discrimination I tell y'wat.
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GanglyKhan
12/09/18 8:42:22 PM
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t h e s p i a n s
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wwinterj25
12/09/18 10:06:27 PM
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Actress. Not sure why some gals want to be called men but eh.

GanglyKhan posted...
t h e s p i a n s


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TheGreatNoodles
12/09/18 10:47:30 PM
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Actor.

Granted, I would still use terms like policeman, fireman, postman, etc for females of those occupations.

I always was of the belief/understanding that the base term was genderless/undefined, whereas actress can only be used for female actors. (But doesn't have to be used)
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darcandkharg31
12/09/18 10:56:56 PM
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TheGreatNoodles posted...
Actor.

Granted, I would still use terms like policeman, fireman, postman, etc for females of those occupations.

I always was of the belief/understanding that the base term was genderless/undefined, whereas actress can only be used for female actors. (But doesn't have to be used)

Officer, Firefighter, Femailman, etc.
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TheGreatNoodles
12/09/18 10:59:38 PM
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darcandkharg31 posted...
TheGreatNoodles posted...
Actor.

Granted, I would still use terms like policeman, fireman, postman, etc for females of those occupations.

I always was of the belief/understanding that the base term was genderless/undefined, whereas actress can only be used for female actors. (But doesn't have to be used)

Officer, Firefighter, Femailman, etc.

Might also be cultural.
The fact "boys in blue" also refers to policewomen probably shows how little Australian language cares about gender specific words.
Although I will admit, I hear fierys and firefighters used waaaay more often than 'fireman'.
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EclairReturns
12/09/18 11:09:22 PM
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darcandkharg31 posted...
Femailman


Would it not be "mailwoman"?
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Revelation34
12/09/18 11:21:04 PM
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darcandkharg31 posted...
Femailman


Nobody ever uses that one.
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darcandkharg31
12/09/18 11:25:24 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
Would it not be "mailwoman"?

Revelation34 posted...
Nobody ever uses that one.

whoops my bad, I meant Femail Carrier
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JfAtS1O3N
12/10/18 12:12:01 AM
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I usually say actor as a force of habit, but sometimes I catch myself and say actress.
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Revelation34
12/10/18 1:56:22 AM
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JfAtS1O3N posted...
I usually say actor as a force of habit, but sometimes I catch myself and say actress.


How do you ever get into a force of habit like that?
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LeetCheet
12/10/18 2:21:02 AM
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darcandkharg31 posted...
EclairReturns posted...
Would it not be "mailwoman"?

Revelation34 posted...
Nobody ever uses that one.

whoops my bad, I meant Femail Carrier


How about just 'Failman'?

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TheGreatNoodles
12/10/18 8:21:55 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
JfAtS1O3N posted...
I usually say actor as a force of habit, but sometimes I catch myself and say actress.


How do you ever get into a force of habit like that?

Well, if you've grown up simply knowing 'actor' as gender neutral, then it would be force of habit to refer to any actor as an actor.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/10/18 8:39:35 PM
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Actress
You forgot the poll.
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JfAtS1O3N
12/10/18 11:46:50 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
JfAtS1O3N posted...
I usually say actor as a force of habit, but sometimes I catch myself and say actress.


How do you ever get into a force of habit like that?

Its one of those things that I usually refer to people of the same sex as me. Like if I get pissed off at a driver, I always assume its a male. Although I'm usually pretty good about waiters vs waitresses.
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