Board 8 > Elseworlds [Arrow] [Flash] [Supergirl]

(+) Yeah! (+)

"Amazo, you have failed this city!"

God damn that was amazing. Oliver/Barry are hilarious together. So hyped for more Doctor Destiny and Batwoman coming in all-like the BTAS intro.
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Not much love for the Arrowverse these days around here?
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Well Arrow itself kinda sucks now. But the other shows are still good, and this was bloody brilliant.

Just one thing- I thought The Monitor was a good guy? At least in the original Crisis. Why's he destroying universes now?

And weren't there only 52 Earths in the Arrowmultiverse? Could have sworn last year's crossover had a line to the effect that Earth X was the secret 53rd Earth that nobody talks about, now there's at least 90?

Anyway, minor things that are probably not even issues aside, I loved Part 1, can't wait for Part 2. Gotham City!
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I actually think Arrow has been better than Flash this season but every show has been pretty great this year.

The Monitor here seems to be an amalgam of the original Monitor and the one introduced in Multiversity.
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Arrow has been awesome this season.

Also, this first part was very fun. I really enjoyed it. Kinda weird that Ollie never said anything about Ivo or Amazon considering he faced off against an Ivo on the Amazon ship on Lian Yu already.
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Snake5555555555 posted...

The Monitor here seems to be an amalgam of the original Monitor and the one introduced in Multiversity.

Final Crisis. There wasn't a Monitor introduced in Multiversity.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Snake5555555555 posted...

The Monitor here seems to be an amalgam of the original Monitor and the one introduced in Multiversity.

Final Crisis. There wasn't a Monitor introduced in Multiversity.

You're right, more accurately I meant the storyline used there.
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Arrow has been very, very good over the first half. I will always mark out for more Cody Rhodes and Kirk Acevedo.

I don't watch Supergirl so I don't know if there were any changes or new things in her section of the Flash episode, but I absolutely marked the **** out when Ollie and Barry jumped into the portal and SOMEBODY SAAAAVE MEEEE. Such familiarity with the outfits and setting, though I didn't dig Lois at all, and while Tyler Hoechlin protrayed a good Clark, look at him! Look at this man.

https://tinyurl.com/yabuakse

That's the most Bruce Wayne looking Bruce Wayne I've ever seen.

Also, need some Flash facts: What happened to Cisco's hands; who is French Wells; who is new guy who looks like Peeta from Hunger Games; and how long has Flash's suit looked like the old '90s Batman suits with no neck movement? Or was that last one just Ollie's posture?
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Lois reminded me of Margot Kidder a lot, I thought she was pretty good.

Mega Mana posted...

What happened to Cisco's hands; who is French Wells; who is new guy who looks like Peeta from Hunger Games; and how long has Flash's suit looked like the old '90s Batman suits with no neck movement? Or was that last one just Ollie's posture?

Cisco hurt his hands vibing after Cicada tried killing him in a previous episode. French wells is Sherloque Wells from as of writing unknown Earth, he's a master detective and all that; Peeta is Ralph Dibny/Elongated Man, he was introduced in last season and has become a main team member; I heard Stephen Amell complained that wearing the suit was a really tight and uncomfortable experience.
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Oh I forgot it would've started last night. Still not fully used to CW on Sundays, lol.
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I like the Arrowverse (The Flash at least) but I have fallen behind. Probably will catch up when all the crossover episodes are out.
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Wow part 2 was pure amazing insanity. The sheer amount of Batman easter eggs and references is enough to fill an encyclopedia.
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Caught up. Both episodes were cool. Loved the jokes in 1 and Gotham was awesome in 2, that show definitely looks promising especially Kara x Kate.

I was way more hype for the previous Flash episode though, I didn't realize it was the 100th episode. Going through all the seasons was sweet, and the Wells stuff is getting good.
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Legends was somehow crazier than the crossover.
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So uh. Batwoman/Kate Kane is super underwhelming and boring. So not hype for her having her own show. Why is it a wig too? I dunno, it felt like much of her was try hard Guggenheim writing for her. Maybe she'll be better in her show?
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Hasn't it always been a wig?
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Snake5555555555 posted...

Legends was somehow crazier than the crossover.

LOL I was just thinking how amazing it was that the crossover was easily the best crossover yet and SOMEHOW Legends still found a way to top it.
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Mega Mana posted...

Hasn't it always been a wig?

Yes.
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SupremeZero posted...

Mega Mana posted...

Hasn't it always been a wig?

Yes.

I don't believe so. I even double checked pictures to see. The one in that image and the ones below has her natural hair as red.

https://tinyurl.com/ybo6jncs
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkGETleW4AA74aB.jpg
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I don't get why people say it's the best crossover. Crisis was way better in a lot of ways, movie quality pretty much.

Maybe it's not as good if you don't like the Flash. But this crossover is very Flashy also.
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Crisis had little to no development of Earth-X.
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This crossover is great.

I won't truly judge until the conclusion, but I would say I liked Crisis better.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Crisis had little to no development of Earth-X.

And this one did of Earth-90? X was just the nazi planet, it was always about the alt characters and it totally delivered there
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The Ray, one of DC's best characters, got no real development. And Citizen Cold got his development after the crossover ended. The premise Earth-X required showing, you know, some of Earth-X. The premise of this one is really Flash and Arrow reversing roles.
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Earth-90 already got developed in the 1990s Flash series.
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Okay that is simultaneously hilarious and true.
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Oh is that the Earth from the 90s show?
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foolm0r0n posted...

Oh is that the Earth from the 90s show?

It is indeed. Which means that Earth-90 Barry Allen is John Wesley-Shipp reprising his original role. And also means that basically everyone else who was in that show was killed horribly, so have fun watching it now, kids!

And holy crap that Legends episode was incredible. Even though they're not joining in with the crossover this year, they still managed to have a very Elseworlds-y episode during it (not to mention hanging a great big lampshade on it in the first scene). And I think they're set to cameo in Part 3 anyway?.
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BlackMageJawa posted...

And I think they're set to cameo in Part 3 anyway?.

Yup I believe so
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So I liked this crossover a lot but I think I liked Earth-X more. This one just felt like a bunch of set up for next year's Crisis on Infinite Earths which is hype as fuck! But we gotta wait forever x_x
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I'm personally a bit torn. Elseworlds Part 2 was probably the best single episode of any crossover series. I do think overall that Elseworlds felt a little more empty than it should've with the lack of Legends and a surprisingly subdued part 3, so Earth-X does probably get the edge for me too. Still an amazing event though!
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BlackMageJawa posted...

Well Arrow itself kinda sucks now. But the other shows are still good, and this was bloody brilliant.

Just one thing- I thought The Monitor was a good guy? At least in the original Crisis. Why's he destroying universes now?

And weren't there only 52 Earths in the Arrowmultiverse? Could have sworn last year's crossover had a line to the effect that Earth X was the secret 53rd Earth that nobody talks about, now there's at least 90?

Anyway, minor things that are probably not even issues aside, I loved Part 1, can't wait for Part 2. Gotham City!

Line 2 - Quickly gained intensity. Also, rewatch. He wasn't a bad guy, he was the literal interpretation of True Neutral.

There was a set number and then X for a past crossover, but the next crossover is Crisis on Infinite Earths. It's not infinite if you don't have an unlimited count. Maybe Cisco and the Wellses he brings on just can't calculate for that yet? That's solid comic book logic.

More Batwoman is good with me.

*edit*
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I liked part 3 a lot. Probably for the same reason I liked Crisis X, evil versions of characters. Evil Alex was especially great and she should wear that outfit more.

The fact that this was just a setup makes a lot of sense. But it's really kinda sad since it doesn't really set up much at all. Only a few scenes with the Monitor, and a bit of mystery with what deal Oliver made with him in the end. The rest of the 3 episodes was just some fun gimmicks. Which is cool and all, but it doesn't end up feeling like a teaser.

Anyways this Infinite Earths thing better be good with how much people have been hyping it. They went really overboard with the production of Crisis X, so I wonder if they will be able to top it only 2 years later.
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Still, my favorite part...

SOMEBODY SAAAVE MEEEE
LET YOUR WARM HANDS BREAK RIGHT THROUGH
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Batwoman was kinda weird to me. Like, she just felt kinda flat and characterless. Hopefully, it's better in her actual show. I'm really looking forward to it. Adding new shows to the Arrowverse is the most exciting thing.
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How cool would it be that, like the vein of using 90s Barry Allen, we get more veteran returns from old shows for COIE? Imagine actual Tom Welling appearances.
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What if they crossed over with the DCAU or even a video game universe like Arkham or Injustice?
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If this was a movie with a huge budget, I'd believe it could happen, but I have to temper my expectations. We're not getting Lego Batman meets Batwoman.
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