Current Events > Is it OK to be a Republican?

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Is it OK to be a Trump supporter as long as you arent a neo nazi ?

Lets hear from CE on the matter
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post on your main account you fucking loser
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Id prefer if flaming was kept to a minimum.
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that escalated quickly
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ROD?
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Yes it's okay to be a republican.

Note you can be a Republican and not support Trump.
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creativerealms posted...

Yes it's okay to be a republican.

Note you can be a Republican and not support Trump.

I'd say this seems about right.
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RoadsterUFO posted...

Its okay to be whatever you want as so long as you are not using aggression and force onto others.

Exactly :)

As long as one isnt being blatantly hateful towards others then its ok to be what you want to be
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If you voted for Trump you're a either a bad person or an ignorant person. One really isn't better than the other at this point.
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It's not okay to have a 2018 account.
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seems like kind of a social faux pas in the year of our lord 2018 unless you're both old and white
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No.
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

that escalated quickly

Politics in a nutshell.
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Acceptance posted...

Is it OK to be a Trump supporter as long as you arent a neo nazi ?

Lets hear from CE on the matter

Real Republican: Guy who supports conservative principles such as small government, pro-trade, pro-legal immigration, fiscal responsibility

Most (identity politics) Republicans: dont really care much about the principles mentioned above. There all about abortion, evangelical stuff, and voting red blindly.

45 supporters / redcaps / alt right: mostly about race. Big government? Cool! Anti-trade? Awesome! Fiscal irresponsibility? Great! The opposite of this all? Thats cool too! To them its all about race, race, race

MorbidFaithless posted...

If you voted for Trump you're a either a bad person or an ignorant person. One really isn't better than the other at this point.

EliteC posted...

Real Republican: ...

Most (identity politics) Republicans:

Why do the minority get the benefit of being the real ones?
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Antifar posted...

EliteC posted...

Real Republican: ...

Most (identity politics) Republicans:

Why do the minority get the benefit of being the real ones?

Because the official party platform was about just that up until 2016, and up to last decade most republicans were about it too. But things have changed

EliteC posted...

Real Republican: Guy who supports conservative principles such as small government, pro-trade, pro-legal immigration, fiscal responsibility

Most (identity politics) Republicans: dont really care much about the principles mentioned above. There all about abortion, evangelical stuff, and voting red blindly.

what does it mean when the republican voting base has more of the latter than the former?
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Balrog0 posted...

EliteC posted...

Real Republican: Guy who supports conservative principles such as small government, pro-trade, pro-legal immigration, fiscal responsibility

Most (identity politics) Republicans: dont really care much about the principles mentioned above. There all about abortion, evangelical stuff, and voting red blindly.

what does it mean when the republican voting base has more of the latter than the former?

Do you have proof for that claim?
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EliteC posted...

up to last decade most republicans were about it too.

this is not true at all, evangelical social issues have been pushing the GOP along for at least my entire life
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The current direction of the party is not okay.
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Tmaster148 posted...

The current direction of the party is not okay.

For both parties.
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Tmaster148 posted...

The current direction of the party is not okay.

It's not ideal but the alternative is full blown socialism
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Caution999 posted...

Do you have proof for that claim?

Donald Trump has 90 percent support among Republican voters
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Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

Do you have proof for that claim?

Donald Trump has 90 percent support among Republican voters

With all due respect, that's not proof. The only thing that is proof of is that Republicans would rather him in there over Hillary.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

The current direction of the party is not okay.

It's not ideal but the alternative is full blown socialism

It's not but lol.
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Caution999 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

EliteC posted...

Real Republican: Guy who supports conservative principles such as small government, pro-trade, pro-legal immigration, fiscal responsibility

Most (identity politics) Republicans: dont really care much about the principles mentioned above. There all about abortion, evangelical stuff, and voting red blindly.

what does it mean when the republican voting base has more of the latter than the former?

Do you have proof for that claim?

>Asking for proof of a claim they pulled out of their ass

:brainlet:
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It is ok to be Republican, it's called towing party lines, being a Neo-Nazi isn't towing your party lines as it's far past the mainstream right.
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Lol, the ignoramuses of Caution Club are gathering in this topic. Can you say "triggered"?
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Caution999 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

EliteC posted...

Real Republican: Guy who supports conservative principles such as small government, pro-trade, pro-legal immigration, fiscal responsibility

Most (identity politics) Republicans: dont really care much about the principles mentioned above. There all about abortion, evangelical stuff, and voting red blindly.

what does it mean when the republican voting base has more of the latter than the former?

Do you have proof for that claim?

How could a party composed mostly of pro-trade, fiscally responsible, small government folks have such broad support for things like medicare for all? 51% of GOP voters support it. And why do more GOP voters support decreasing legal immigration than increasing it if they support legal immigration?

Of course it's impossible to separate the two groups because they aren't actually distinct and there's plenty of overlap, but I'd like to see a serious defense of the idea that there are more of the former.
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Balrog0 posted...

EliteC posted...

up to last decade most republicans were about it too.

this is not true at all, evangelical social issues have been pushing the GOP along for at least my entire life

Ok youre right.

They PRETENDED to be about other stuff too but it was a lie

Forlorn_Ass posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

The current direction of the party is not okay.

For both parties.

BOTH SIDES!
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Reminder that to be a Trump supporter is to officially be supporting a criminal now

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-prosecutors-concluded-that-president-of-the-united-states-committed-a-felony/
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Caution999 posted...

With all due respect, that's not proof. The only thing that is proof of is that Republicans would rather him in there over Hillary.

Those are current poll numbers, not 2016 figures. 90% approve of the job he's done as president, right now.
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Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

With all due respect, that's not proof. The only thing that is proof of is that Republicans would rather him in there over Hillary.

Those are current poll numbers, not 2016 figures. 90% approve of the job he's done as president, right now.

Reminder that caution didnt consider the caution club screenshots proof lol

I know I'm winning when you guys try to divert from the conversation at hand.
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more support decreasing legal immigration than increasing it:
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2550

more support medicare for all than oppose:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/new-poll-majority-of-gop-voters-support-medicare-for-all.html

support tariffs:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/theres-an-increasingly-partisan-split-on-tariffs-new-pew-poll-finds/

I mean if you want to pretend you can believe all of these things and still be that trad GOP dude go for it
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EliteC posted...

Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

With all due respect, that's not proof. The only thing that is proof of is that Republicans would rather him in there over Hillary.

Those are current poll numbers, not 2016 figures. 90% approve of the job he's done as president, right now.

Reminder that caution didnt consider the caution club screenshots proof lol

Nah, he bounced around several times on them. First claimed they weren't real, then that he was being taken out of context, then that the leftists made him say that shit.
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https://i.redd.it/drutalfjdt221.jpg

Gosh dang liherals out in full force in this topic.
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Ambience posted...

Reminder that to be a Trump supporter is to officially be supporting a criminal now

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-prosecutors-concluded-that-president-of-the-united-states-committed-a-felony/

Ironic considering the whole of the Democratic party is looking into allowing an envoy of illegals into the country
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Ambience posted...

EliteC posted...

Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

With all due respect, that's not proof. The only thing that is proof of is that Republicans would rather him in there over Hillary.

Those are current poll numbers, not 2016 figures. 90% approve of the job he's done as president, right now.

Reminder that caution didnt consider the caution club screenshots proof lol

Nah, he bounced around several times on them. First claimed they weren't real, then that he was being taken out of context, then that the leftists made him say that shit.

So sad lmao

SageHarpuia posted...

Ambience posted...

Reminder that to be a Trump supporter is to officially be supporting a criminal now

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-prosecutors-concluded-that-president-of-the-united-states-committed-a-felony/

Ironic considering the whole of the Democratic party is looking into allowing an envoy of illegals into the country

You Trump cultists are shook as fuck
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A_Good_Boy posted...

https://i.redd.it/drutalfjdt221.jpg

Gosh dang liherals out in full force in this topic.

Lmao!!! I cant wait to use this

SageHarpuia posted...

Ambience posted...

Reminder that to be a Trump supporter is to officially be supporting a criminal now

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-prosecutors-concluded-that-president-of-the-united-states-committed-a-felony/

Ironic considering the whole of the Democratic party is looking into allowing an envoy of illegals into the country

Damn I got to use it 20 seconds after I learned about it:

https://i.redd.it/drutalfjdt221.jpg

Balrog0 posted...

more support decreasing legal immigration than increasing it:
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2550

more support medicare for all than oppose:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/new-poll-majority-of-gop-voters-support-medicare-for-all.html

support tariffs:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/theres-an-increasingly-partisan-split-on-tariffs-new-pew-poll-finds/

I mean if you want to pretend you can believe all of these things and still be that trad GOP dude go for it

I appreciate your actual substance to this topic, sir. You're a good person, and here's my thinking:

I think that the idea of "progression" isn't fair that it's restrictive to the left. I think we all want rights for gays. We all want people (human beings) to be equal. We are all human beings. We should all have the freedom to do as we want as long as we aren't breaking the law or hurting other people.

I think most young people liked the idea of Obamacare. I did. I mean, even Romney did - as, technically, it was his model. We are a first world country, and I think we should have medical support for everyone.

I think most people approve of legal immigration, but also, don't like the rate at which illegal immigrants are coming in. Let's face it: The more illegals that come in; the lower the salary people's jobs are going to be. Nobody should be against legal immigration, though. So, perhaps, the current climate and rhetoric of the President is certainly to blame for that.
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Caution999 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

more support decreasing legal immigration than increasing it:
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2550

more support medicare for all than oppose:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/new-poll-majority-of-gop-voters-support-medicare-for-all.html

support tariffs:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/theres-an-increasingly-partisan-split-on-tariffs-new-pew-poll-finds/

I mean if you want to pretend you can believe all of these things and still be that trad GOP dude go for it

I appreciate your actual substance to this topic, sir. You're a good person, and here's my thinking:

I think that the idea of "progression" isn't fair that it's restrictive to the left. I think we all want rights for gays. We all want people (human beings) to be equal. We are all human beings. We should all have the freedom to do as we want as long as we aren't breaking the law or hurting other people.

I think most young people liked the idea of Obamacare. I did. I mean, even Romney did - as, technically, it was his model. We are a first world country, and I think we should have medical support for everyone.

I think most people approve of legal immigration, but also, don't like the rate at which illegal immigrants are coming in. Let's face it: The more illegals that come in; the lower the salary people's jobs are going to be. Nobody should be against legal immigration, though. So, perhaps, the current climate and rhetoric of the President is certainly to blame for that.

We saw the caution club posts. Many there didnt believe this

Caution999 posted...

I think we all want rights for gays.

How are we defining "all" here?

Caution999 posted...

think most people approve of legal immigration,

The surveys cited ITT suggest that most Republicans do not. And the Trump administration is certainly taking steps to reduce legal immigration.
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Caution999 posted...

I think that the idea of "progression" isn't fair that it's restrictive to the left. I think we all want rights for gays. We all want people (human beings) to be equal. We are all human beings. We should all have the freedom to do as we want as long as we aren't breaking the law or hurting other people.

this is pre-Trump but I doubt it has changed much?

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/12/support-steady-for-same-sex-marriage-and-acceptance-of-homosexuality/

And as was the case a year ago, there remains a substantial divide between partisans on the issue. Democrats are more than twice as likely as Republicans to favor gay marriage (70% vs. 33%).

Yet there are key differences within the two parties as well. Among Republicans, 71% of conservative Republicans oppose allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally, more than twice the share of GOP moderates and liberals (34%). A 55% majority of moderate and liberal Republicans favor allowing same-sex marriage.

Within the GOP, these ideological differences also are notable across voters primary preferences for the partys 2016 presidential nominee. About half (52%) of GOP voters who back Donald Trump (now the partys presumptive nominee) say they oppose same-sex marriage, compared with 70% who preferred Ted Cruz and just 37% who backed John Kasich.

of course tbf this shows that Trump was actually the choice of the more moderate members of the GOP on this issue, but that's still more of his supporters who oppose same sex marriage than support it

also

http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

check that out, many more Republicans oppose than support abortion

seems pretty obvious that what I said is accurate unless someone has a good counter argument and opposing data sets that show otherwise
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Antifar posted...

Caution999 posted...

I think we all want rights for gays.

How are we defining "all" here?

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And I'm suggesting the line between legal and illegal is so blurred right now due to the hatred of the media and how Trump is so...vulgar about the illegals.
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