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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 9:49:24 AM
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Y'all, Smash Ultimate is fun as fuck. It's fast action, smooth maneuvering, and balanced fighting techniques across a butt load of characters. I'm bought into the hype.

Nintendo has gone buck wild with the character additions in Ultimate. With the surprise announcements like Piranha Plant and Joker from the Persona franchise, and the knowledge of upcoming Challenger Packs, it looks as if there may be a full range of new fighters Nintendo plans to include.

However, all the "out there" characters that have been added across Smash titles tend to meet two major requirements:
1. The character's first appearance was in a video game: Why Goku and Superman will not be added anytime soon. If the character was created in another form of media and was not originally created in a video game, it likely won't be in Smash.
2. The game featuring the character has been published on a Nintendo console: How characters like Snake, Ryu, Ken, and Joker got in. All Smash characters come from a video game franchise with at least one game published on a Nintendo console. Of course, the issue of intellectual property ownership is a factor that I don't think most of us can accurately account for without disclosure of internal information.

With that said, I've been thinking about potential characters that meet the two major requirements, have enough notability to be added, and could have a full fighting moveset:
Banjo and Kazooie
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Crash Bandicoot
Dixie Kong
Boo
Chris or Jill (Resident Evil)
Waluigi (ffs nintendo just do it)

For now, let's discuss other possible character additions! Who else do you consider as a potential add? Feel free to list characters by likelihood of entry.
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 10:28:04 AM
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quigonzel posted...
Maybe The Boss as an echo fighter for Snake.

Hm, how about Raiden? They may differ enough in technique that he could be a non-echo fighter.
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Mead
12/10/18 10:32:30 AM
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I still want Geno, and Mallow too from SMRPG dangit
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ernieforss
12/10/18 10:38:01 AM
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I can see totally see a Tekken character being added since Namco bandi made the game. That being said.... maybe a Gundam character, but that would be a nightmare in rights.

If Capcom had their way they would probably add Chris, but what is a notable resident evil song. I can see fans pushing Phoenix Wright, but what would a Phoenix Wright stage even look like. I guess they can fight in a court room. or go even meta and dodge yhe text on the bottom and the touch capabilities in a new game.

Be cool if level 5 was added to the game.... so then we can get Yoki Watch and Professor Layton joining the fight. But I don't see that happening.
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 10:40:44 AM
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Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton are good suggestions.

ernieforss posted...
If Capcom had their way they would probably add Chris, but what is a notable resident evil song.

Save room music!
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 10:44:21 AM
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Ooh how about Travis Touchdown from No More Heroes?
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DrunkCaveman
12/10/18 10:45:16 AM
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Phoenix Wright was already in one of the Capcom crossover fighters, it wouldn't be hard to make a moveset for him
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ernieforss
12/10/18 10:52:16 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton are good suggestions.

ernieforss posted...
If Capcom had their way they would probably add Chris, but what is a notable resident evil song.

Save room music!


it's not upbeat at all or makes me want to fight. it's too calming. Plus I think only know part 2 save music. I can't remember the other ones.
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ernieforss
12/10/18 10:53:04 AM
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oh shovel knight since they already have the amiibo and shovel knight wants to be in every game as possible.
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 10:53:59 AM
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Remixes, my dude. They could remix RE: Code Veronica and/or the REmake tracks.
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Sarcasthma
12/10/18 10:55:33 AM
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How about that scary fucking piano from Super Mario 64?
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 10:59:04 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
How about that scary fucking piano from Super Mario 64?

Alright if we're going for completely balls-to-the-walls it-will-never-happen additions: a Sim. I don't even know how that would work. But if it ever happened I would squeal for days about it.
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Blighboy
12/10/18 11:00:48 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
1. The character's first appearance was in a video game: Why Goku and Superman will not be added anytime soon. If the character was created in another form of media and was not originally created in a video game, it likely won't be in Smash.
2. The game featuring the character has been published on a Nintendo console: How characters like Snake, Ryu, Ken, and Joker got in. All Smash characters come from a video game franchise with at least one game published on a Nintendo console. Of course, the issue of intellectual property ownership is a factor that I don't think most of us can accurately account for without disclosure of internal information.

Both these "rules" are going to get broken eventually. The second one has already been stretched way past its original meaning in the past ten years.

Give me Astroboy
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 11:04:27 AM
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Blighboy posted...
Both these "rules" are going to get broken eventually. The second one has already been stretched way past its original meaning in the past ten years.

I don't know know what you mean about it being stretched? It looks to be the formula that Nintendo has put into place as part of its decision making process. How have they stretch their own set guidelines?
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Xfma100
12/10/18 11:05:27 AM
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ernieforss posted...
If Capcom had their way they would probably add Chris, but what is a notable resident evil song. I can see fans pushing Phoenix Wright, but what would a Phoenix Wright stage even look like. I guess they can fight in a court room. or go even meta and dodge yhe text on the bottom and the touch capabilities in a new game.


Or... they could push for Dante.
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 11:07:31 AM
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How about Viewtiful Joe? He's currently an assist trophy, I'm assuming?
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captpackrat
12/10/18 11:14:15 AM
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Pilgor, the goat from Goat Simulator. Especially if they keep her wacky physics glitches.

(Goat Simulator will be available on the Switch starting Q1 2019)
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ernieforss
12/10/18 11:15:00 AM
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Xfma100 posted...
ernieforss posted...
If Capcom had their way they would probably add Chris, but what is a notable resident evil song. I can see fans pushing Phoenix Wright, but what would a Phoenix Wright stage even look like. I guess they can fight in a court room. or go even meta and dodge yhe text on the bottom and the touch capabilities in a new game.


Or... they could push for Dante.


oh yeah plus he has his new game coming out. great cross promo. He also has the music and level design can be very easy.
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mooreandrew58
12/10/18 11:19:42 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Y'all, Smash Ultimate is fun as fuck. It's fast action, smooth maneuvering, and balanced fighting techniques across a butt load of characters. I'm bought into the hype.

Nintendo has gone buck wild with the character additions in Ultimate. With the surprise announcements like Piranha Plant and Joker from the Persona franchise, and the knowledge of upcoming Challenger Packs, it looks as if there may be a full range of new fighters Nintendo plans to include.

However, all the "out there" characters that have been added across Smash titles tend to meet two major requirements:
1. The character's first appearance was in a video game: Why Goku and Superman will not be added anytime soon. If the character was created in another form of media and was not originally created in a video game, it likely won't be in Smash.
2. The game featuring the character has been published on a Nintendo console: How characters like Snake, Ryu, Ken, and Joker got in. All Smash characters come from a video game franchise with at least one game published on a Nintendo console. Of course, the issue of intellectual property ownership is a factor that I don't think most of us can accurately account for without disclosure of internal information.

With that said, I've been thinking about potential characters that meet the two major requirements, have enough notability to be added, and could have a full fighting moveset:
Banjo and Kazooie
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Crash Bandicoot
Dixie Kong
Boo
Chris or Jill (Resident Evil)
Waluigi (ffs nintendo just do it)

For now, let's discuss other possible character additions! Who else do you consider as a potential add? Feel free to list characters by likelihood of entry.


I really wish Nintendo would make a new warioland game and nake walugi a playable character (like luigi is in Mario games) and a big part of the story. Would be a safer way for them to test the waters on if people would buy a game about him.

And I say issac. He's from perhaps my favorite turn based rpg and I'd hold some hope he'd generate enough hype Nintendo may try to revive the series. Hopefully realize one flop doesn't mean the series should die.
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KINGWAR
12/10/18 11:25:30 AM
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It's a long shot, but I'd love to see Arthur Morgan or James Marston from the Red Dead series.
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 11:28:00 AM
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KINGWAR posted...
It's a long shot, but I'd love to see Arthur Morgan or James Marston from the Red Dead series.

Very, very much a long shot because of the Nintendo publishing theme. Doubt we'll ever see a Rockstar original character.
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mooreandrew58
12/10/18 11:40:08 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
KINGWAR posted...
It's a long shot, but I'd love to see Arthur Morgan or James Marston from the Red Dead series.

Very, very much a long shot because of the Nintendo publishing theme. Doubt we'll ever see a Rockstar original character.


I like rdr more than gta but if we got a rockstar character I'd want Trevor. He'd be hilarious in smash.

Realistically only one I'd see Nintendo even consider (and still a super long shot) would be Jimmy from bully as it was much closer to a kiddy gta. Violence but nothing extreme. And no killing
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 11:48:19 AM
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DrunkCaveman posted...
Phoenix Wright was already in one of the Capcom crossover fighters, it wouldn't be hard to make a moveset for him

This is what I was thinking. Would love to have him join!!!
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LaggnFragnLarry
12/10/18 11:50:38 AM
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steve from minecraft
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 11:51:25 AM
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LaggnFragnLarry posted...
steve from minecraft

next you're gonna want some fortnite gits, I'm onto you
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Chewster
12/10/18 11:55:12 AM
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I still think Steve is gonna be in, it just makes way too much sense. Insanely popular game, good moveset and stage potential, Nintendo and MS being all buddy-buddy lately...
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 11:57:11 AM
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Chewster posted...
I still think Steve is gonna be in, it just makes way too much sense. Insanely popular game, good moveset and stage potential, Nintendo and MS being all buddy-buddy lately...

I feel that he does have a high chance of getting in, as well...
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Blighboy
12/10/18 11:59:09 AM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Blighboy posted...
Both these "rules" are going to get broken eventually. The second one has already been stretched way past its original meaning in the past ten years.

I don't know know what you mean about it being stretched? It looks to be the formula that Nintendo has put into place as part of its decision making process. How have they stretch their own set guidelines?

Is the second one an official Nintendo requirement or one of the (dozens of) rules fans have made up about who Nintendo allows in Smash? As far as I recall the only rule that's ever been stated by Sakurai is "from a video game", but I could be mistaken.

On the subject of it being stretched I'm referring to Cloud (and the breaking of many fan rules but that's less relevant). The popular line used in fan conversations used to be that the character had to be on a Nintendo console, which Cloud was considered to be a breach of.

Regardless I think we'll be seeing a Lego minifigure sooner rather than later. Shock value has become a key part of SSB advertising.
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mooreandrew58
12/10/18 12:03:04 PM
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Blighboy posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Blighboy posted...
Both these "rules" are going to get broken eventually. The second one has already been stretched way past its original meaning in the past ten years.

I don't know know what you mean about it being stretched? It looks to be the formula that Nintendo has put into place as part of its decision making process. How have they stretch their own set guidelines?

Is the second one an official Nintendo requirement or one of the (dozens of) rules fans have made up about who Nintendo allows in Smash? As far as I recall the only rule that's ever been stated by Sakurai is "from a video game", but I could be mistaken.

On the subject of it being stretched I'm referring to Cloud (and the breaking of many fan rules but that's less relevant). The popular line used in fan conversations used to be that the character had to be on a Nintendo console, which Cloud was considered to be a breach of.

Regardless I think we'll be seeing a Lego minifigure sooner rather than later. Shock value has become a key part of SSB advertising.


I think what she meant is they've appeared in a Nintendo game. And cloud had. In kingdom hearts at the very least and I wanna say some final fantasy spinoff.
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ernieforss
12/10/18 12:03:07 PM
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KINGWAR posted...
It's a long shot, but I'd love to see Arthur Morgan or James Marston from the Red Dead series.


I can see Sir Arthur and Lancelot (echo). Ghost and Goblin level would be awesome. plus it has the music.
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Xfma100
12/10/18 12:04:07 PM
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Blighboy posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Blighboy posted...
Both these "rules" are going to get broken eventually. The second one has already been stretched way past its original meaning in the past ten years.

I don't know know what you mean about it being stretched? It looks to be the formula that Nintendo has put into place as part of its decision making process. How have they stretch their own set guidelines?

Is the second one an official Nintendo requirement or one of the (dozens of) rules fans have made up about who Nintendo allows in Smash? As far as I recall the only rule that's ever been stated by Sakurai is "from a video game", but I could be mistaken.

On the subject of it being stretched I'm referring to Cloud (and the breaking of many fan rules but that's less relevant). The popular line used in fan conversations used to be that the character had to be on a Nintendo console, which Cloud was considered to be a breach of.

Regardless I think we'll be seeing a Lego minifigure sooner rather than later. Shock value has become a key part of SSB advertising.


Speaking of which, Reggie said that video game characters don't need to have close ties to Nintendo to appear in Smash. (He said this after the Joker announcement.)
He also said that the characters would be ones who aren't anticipated/expected. This rules out most 1st party Nintendo characters imo.
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 12:04:16 PM
#34:


Blighboy posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Blighboy posted...
Both these "rules" are going to get broken eventually. The second one has already been stretched way past its original meaning in the past ten years.

I don't know know what you mean about it being stretched? It looks to be the formula that Nintendo has put into place as part of its decision making process. How have they stretch their own set guidelines?

Is the second one an official Nintendo requirement or one of the (dozens of) rules fans have made up about who Nintendo allows in Smash? As far as I recall the only rule that's ever been stated by Sakurai is "from a video game", but I could be mistaken.

On the subject of it being stretched I'm referring to Cloud (and the breaking of many fan rules but that's less relevant). The popular line used in fan conversations used to be that the character had to be on a Nintendo console, which Cloud was considered to be a breach of.

Regardless I think we'll be seeing a Lego minifigure sooner rather than later. Shock value has become a key part of SSB advertising.

I think the character has to come from a game that had at least one entry from the same franchise in a Nintendo system...
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SilentSeph
12/10/18 12:05:52 PM
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Neku from The World Ends With You would be great.
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Mead
12/10/18 12:11:01 PM
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I still want wreck it ralph

He first appeared in a video game, its just a fictional one is all
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 12:11:11 PM
#37:


SilentSeph posted...
Neku from The World Ends With You would be great.

I have a picture that might suggest hell be in it...
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 12:12:19 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I think the character has to come from a game that had at least one entry from the same franchise in a Nintendo system...

Yeah, this. I didn't mean for the "requirements" to come off as hard-line rules; it's just the pattern that seems to have been followed with the addition of characters like Snake, Sonic, Pacman, Joker and the like. Across their entire franchise, at least one of their games has been published onto a Nintendo console. I do think Nintendo is trying to stick with that theme, as it gives them more leeway to consider characters like Crash Bandicoot or Sora.
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 12:16:15 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
SilentSeph posted...
Neku from The World Ends With You would be great.

I have a picture that might suggest hell be in it...

I dont think its a spoiler. But just to be safe...

Vpn96xp
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JOExHIGASHI
12/10/18 12:18:06 PM
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Master chef
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 12:18:56 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Master chef

Gordon Ramsey? I dont think his first appearance was a video game...
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Xfma100
12/10/18 12:27:08 PM
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Oh, and I guess Geralt has a chance?
The man has been appearing in other game series lately. First Soul Calibur and now Monster Hunter...
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JOExHIGASHI
12/10/18 12:37:04 PM
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Captain commando
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RCtheWSBC
12/10/18 12:40:02 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Captain commando

oooh I didn't know about this game, but looks like it has some potential!
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Mead
12/10/18 12:40:20 PM
#45:


Xfma100 posted...
Oh, and I guess Geralt has a chance?
The man has been appearing in other game series lately. First Soul Calibur and now Monster Hunter...


I just cant see Geralt in smash, he seems like too much of an R rated character
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Xfma100
12/10/18 12:51:18 PM
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Mead posted...
Xfma100 posted...
Oh, and I guess Geralt has a chance?
The man has been appearing in other game series lately. First Soul Calibur and now Monster Hunter...


I just cant see Geralt in smash, he seems like too much of an R rated character


I could see that, but we already have Snake and Bayonetta so who knows lol.
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DrPrimemaster
12/10/18 12:55:56 PM
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Supreme Longshot, with Diablo 3 coming to the switch they could add diablo characters.
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SilentSeph
12/10/18 1:28:24 PM
#48:


LinkPizza posted...
LinkPizza posted...
SilentSeph posted...
Neku from The World Ends With You would be great.

I have a picture that might suggest hell be in it...

I dont think its a spoiler. But just to be safe...

Vpn96xp

I don't want to get my hopes up but that is pretty sweet haha. Neku makes a lot of sense as another SE rep.
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PaddysPub
12/10/18 1:31:21 PM
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I would buy a Switch in a heartbeat if Crash Bandicoot or Master Chief got added to Smash but DLC is fuckin duuumb
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LinkPizza
12/10/18 1:32:18 PM
#50:


SilentSeph posted...
LinkPizza posted...
LinkPizza posted...
SilentSeph posted...
Neku from The World Ends With You would be great.

I have a picture that might suggest hell be in it...

I dont think its a spoiler. But just to be safe...

Vpn96xp

I don't want to get my hopes up but that is pretty sweet haha. Neku makes a lot of sense as another SE rep.

Haha. Not sure if its really a sign. But I thought it was cool when I saw it. I know its a little rotated, but still... Maybe it was a smal hint. Maybe it was just a coincidence...
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